Shooting at Sikh temple

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http://www.npr.org/2012/08/06/158190795 ... d?ft=1&f=3

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Aye depressing stuff. It's gotten to the point where you can't say anything about these mass shootings without coming across politicising them though.

So nothing can be said, other than offering sympathy for the victims.

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I find it interesting that so few people even know what the religion is, yet still seem to feel free to condemn it.

And I think the intelligent people of our country, particularly those who are members of other churches, need to be sure to offer support.

[Neoteny]

I find it interesting that so few people even know what the religion is, yet still seem to feel free to condemn it.

And I think the intelligent people of our country, particularly those who are members of other churches, need to be sure to offer support.

My first thought is why would anyone want to kill a Sikh? The most obvious answer is sadly that they confused the Sikhs for Muslims. My second thought was that I hoped the gunman was cut down by one of those wicked looking blades. Alas, just shot by the police.

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I find it interesting that so few people even know what the religion is, yet still seem to feel free to condemn it.

And I think the intelligent people of our country, particularly those who are members of other churches, need to be sure to offer support.

One of the finer points of the US, and I know I come across as a critic of American culture most of the time, is its sense of community, especially in times of tragedy. The UK has lost that spirit to a certain extent, but it's one of the greatest things about American culture.

From what I've read, a lot of people are sending in donations to the families of the victims.

[saxitoxin]

One of the finer points of the US, and I know I come across as a critic of American culture most of the time, is its sense of community, especially in times of tragedy.

LOL - where do you get that from?

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One of the finer points of the US, and I know I come across as a critic of American culture most of the time, is its sense of community, especially in times of tragedy.

LOL - where do you get that from?

Mainly from living in the US, as compared to living in the UK and Japan. I don't pretend to know many other countries well, but that was definitely one of the greatest things about American culture. Community is certainly something the US does well. Occasionally, sure, it pushes people out, but not so much in my experience.

[yang guize]

fucking idiot. 'usa has so much community, no one else does'. you think if a lot of sikhs were shot in another country that no sympathy and help would be offered?

i think you would find that there are many countries, not just the usa, where people would be prepared to offer help to the victims of mindless brutality.

I find it interesting that so few people even know what the religion is, yet still seem to feel free to condemn it.

i don't think the sikh religion is why this man shot the people. from what i hear, he was an alcoholic loser who got thrown out of the army. he was just unable to accept that he was a loser and decided to blame someone else. he chose sikhs, he shot sikhs. this shooting is just a sign that the shooter is a loser, same as the batman shootings, same as any other mass killing. the target of the killing is arbitrary.

[saxitoxin]

One of the finer points of the US, and I know I come across as a critic of American culture most of the time, is its sense of community, especially in times of tragedy.

LOL - where do you get that from?

Mainly from living in the US, as compared to living in the UK and Japan. I don't pretend to know many other countries well, but that was definitely one of the greatest things about American culture. Community is certainly something the US does well. Occasionally, sure, it pushes people out, but not so much in my experience.

Just out of curiosity, were you living inside this?



If that's the case, I guess it's understandable how one might anecdotally reach this conclusion, though perhaps not scientifically accurate.

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One of the finer points of the US, and I know I come across as a critic of American culture most of the time, is its sense of community, especially in times of tragedy.

LOL - where do you get that from?

Mainly from living in the US, as compared to living in the UK and Japan. I don't pretend to know many other countries well, but that was definitely one of the greatest things about American culture. Community is certainly something the US does well. Occasionally, sure, it pushes people out, but not so much in my experience.

Just out of curiosity, were you living inside this?



If that's the case, I guess it's understandable how one might anecdotally reach this conclusion, though perhaps not scientifically accurate.

Did you want scientific accuracy? Why?

And why are you trolling this thread?

[saxitoxin]

One of the finer points of the US, and I know I come across as a critic of American culture most of the time, is its sense of community, especially in times of tragedy.

LOL - where do you get that from?

Mainly from living in the US, as compared to living in the UK and Japan. I don't pretend to know many other countries well, but that was definitely one of the greatest things about American culture. Community is certainly something the US does well. Occasionally, sure, it pushes people out, but not so much in my experience.

Just out of curiosity, were you living inside this?



If that's the case, I guess it's understandable how one might anecdotally reach this conclusion, though perhaps not scientifically accurate.

Did you want scientific accuracy? Why?

And why are you trolling this thread?

How am I trolling it? You came barreling in here in a red, white and blue, '57 Chevy, waving the Stars & Stripes and blaring Yankee Doodle Dandy from the stereo at full blast and I'm not permitted to ask you to please turn the volume down a bit?

[spurgistan]

Well, no, you're not, because that image is awesome and I want it.

[Juan_Bottom]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wisconsin-temp ... CBa5qP-2uJ

"[Murphy] received eight or nine gunshot wounds, to extremities and also to the cheek area and the neck," Edwards said. "He was in very close proximity to the shooter. When he arrived, he came upon someone who was injured, and he was going to assist that individual when the shooter came around him, close to his squad, and hit him at a close distance."

The officer was wearing a bullet proof vest, Edwards said.

After gunman Wade Page was shot and killed by other officers, they moved to rescue Murphy. But when they located him, Murphy indicated that rather than help him they should enter the temple to assist any other victims.

"He had been shot nine times -- one of them very serious in the neck area -- and he waved them off and told them to go into the temple to assist those in there," Edwards said.

[BigBallinStalin]

Private security forces could provide similar services as well. They'd probably be more effective and safer too.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wisconsin-temple-hero-cop-brian-murphy-shot-times/story?id=16939854#.UCBa5qP-2uJ

"[Murphy] received eight or nine gunshot wounds, to extremities and also to the cheek area and the neck," Edwards said. "He was in very close proximity to the shooter. When he arrived, he came upon someone who was injured, and he was going to assist that individual when the shooter came around him, close to his squad, and hit him at a close distance."

The officer was wearing a bullet proof vest, Edwards said.

After gunman Wade Page was shot and killed by other officers, they moved to rescue Murphy. But when they located him, Murphy indicated that rather than help him they should enter the temple to assist any other victims.

"He had been shot nine times -- one of them very serious in the neck area -- and he waved them off and told them to go into the temple to assist those in there," Edwards said.

Aye, and one of the victims stumbled to a local home where the guy gave him first aid on his lawn. This probably wouldn't happen in Japan, and I don't think it's as common as it used to be in the UK.

[BigBallinStalin]

Is it too early to say, "that's sikh, man."

???

[yang guize]

LOL. you are correct. in japan or the uk the sikh would stumble onto a lawn, and the owner of the lawn would run out and stamp on him.

however in the usa the sikh would be carried from the burning building by an eagle, who would then tear out his own kidneys and implant them into the sikh, at expense of his own life.

[saxitoxin]

LOL. you are correct. in japan or the uk the sikh would stumble onto a lawn, and the owner of the lawn would run out and stamp on him.

however in the usa the sikh would be carried from the burning building by an eagle, who would then tear out his own kidneys and implant them into the sikh, at expense of his own life.

+800 SaxBucks

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LOL. you are correct. in japan or the uk the sikh would stumble onto a lawn, and the owner of the lawn would run out and stamp on him.

however in the usa the sikh would be carried from the burning building by an eagle, who would then tear out his own kidneys and implant them into the sikh, at expense of his own life.

Nah, in Japan they would likely walk on by. In the UK, at the moment, they might not even leave the house.

[MegaProphet]

This tragedy should not be an excuse for you all to argue about how great the US is or isn't in comparison to other countries. My thoughts go out to the victims and their families.

[Juan_Bottom]

CONTEXT: I don't have it.

[Nola_Lifer]

Odd how 100 FBI personal weren't there in less then an hour.

[BigBallinStalin]

Odd how 100 FBI personal weren't there in less then an hour.

What'dya mean?


I mean, I could list several explanations, but you're being really vague here.

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This tragedy should not be an excuse for you all to argue about how great the US is or isn't in comparison to other countries. My thoughts go out to the victims and their families.

agree.

[Nola_Lifer]

Odd how 100 FBI personal weren't there in less then an hour.

What'dya mean?


I mean, I could list several explanations, but you're being really vague here.

Where else was there a shooting that 100 FBI agents showed up?