Time Warp Mafia Endgame: Town Wins

[betiko]

derp, nevermind I get it now.

unvote

what did you get because I didn't?

[Nendreel]

He steals my vote on N6 for use on Day 7. It is now Day 3 so I still have my vote.

[betiko]

day 1: vodean (?)
night 1: PCM (unknown alignment politician, lynched day 6)
day 2: Ghostly (claimed VT)
night 2: nendreel (claimed VT)
day 3: jonty (claimed town vote stealer)
night 3: Soundman (claimed VT, lynched day 5)
day 4: betiko or kanin (claimed town masons)
night 4: NoSurvivors (lynched day 2, VT)
day 5: Edocsil (claimed town tracker)
night 5: Gregwolf (mafia vote disabler,lynched day 1 100% dead)
day 6: iron butterfly (town double voter)
night 6: new guy1 (claimed VT)
day 7: betiko or kanin (claimed town masons)


ok here is what happened chronologically:
D1) Gregwolf, Mafia Vote Disabler (N5, warped us to D6)
N1) ghostly447, Vanilla Townie, (D2, warped us to N3)
D2) NoSurvivors, Vanilla Townie (N4, warped us to D5)
N2)Iron Butterfly, Town Double-Voter, (D6, warped us to N6)
D3)
N3)
D4) Edocsil, ? (D5 warped us to N5)
N4)
D5)Soundman, ? (N3, warped us to D4)
N5) Vodean, ? (D1, warped us to N1)
D6) PCM, ? (N1, warped us to D2)
N6)
D7)

here is the complete loop:
D1->D6->D2->D5->D4->N5->N1->N3->D3

I think the best interest of mafia would be to have 1 of theirs "revived" going back in time, therefore if we ended up D7 everything would be revealed and it would ve been their doom, as we didn't disclose with kanin who is D3/D7 might be why they spared our lives...

[new guy1]

Well obviously I believe it to be jonty, but what else is new? I have no night action, so I cant prove it. I guess try to make the best choice. I wont vote for him because if you deduced incorrectly then theres a chance for a hammer and I need to check your logic so that if theres a mistake I can find it, though I do not have anything better to offer.

[Nendreel]

ok here is what happened chronologically:
D1) Gregwolf, Mafia Vote Disabler (N5, warped us to D6)
N1) ghostly447, Vanilla Townie, (D2, warped us to N2)
D2) NoSurvivors, Vanilla Townie (N4, warped us to D5)
N2)Iron Butterfly, Town Double-Voter, (D6, warped us to N6)
D3)
N3)
D4) Edocsil, ? (D5 warped us to N5)
N4)
D5)Soundman, ? (N3, warped us to D4)
N5) Vodean, ? (D1, warped us to N1)
D6) PCM, ? (N1, warped us to D2)
N6) Nen (N2, warped us to D3)
D7)

here is the complete loop:
D1->D6->D2->D5->D4->N5->N1->N2->N6->D3

Fixed the timeline.

@jonty, why did you steal my vote on N6 instead of N2?

[jonty125]

ok here is what happened chronologically:
D1) Gregwolf, Mafia Vote Disabler (N5, warped us to D6)
N1) ghostly447, Vanilla Townie, (D2, warped us to N2)
D2) NoSurvivors, Vanilla Townie (N4, warped us to D5)
N2)Iron Butterfly, Town Double-Voter, (D6, warped us to N6)
D3)
N3)
D4) Edocsil, ? (D5 warped us to N5)
N4)
D5)Soundman, ? (N3, warped us to D4)
N5) Vodean, ? (D1, warped us to N1)
D6) PCM, ? (N1, warped us to D2)
N6) Nen (N2, warped us to D3)
D7)

here is the complete loop:
D1->D6->D2->D5->D4->N5->N1->N2->N6->D3

Fixed the timeline.

@jonty, why did you steal my vote on N6 instead of N2?

'Cos I stole pcm's then.

[betiko]

why would you not vote jonty NG1, you are not going to vote for yourself it doesn't make sense and if we hammer too fast jonty it will be a win for you either way (weather you're scum or town). quite suspicious you see it that way.

[new guy1]

I figured you would say it was suspicious, but didnt care enough, because then Im not allowing him to speak if I vote him and such. I will put my money where my mouth is then. Vote jonty.

[betiko]

anyway I'm waiting for kanin's opinion, don't forget that we are masoned and we can discuss this privately. I am really not too sure to tell the truth.

jonty can you explain what you did night by night, do you have extra votes today? Actually I'm kind of thinking that you are probably the second double voter... we still didn't figure out who it was and it could fit with what is a fakeclaim....

so as "revived" we still have soundman, edoc, vodean, pcm and nendreel to help us vote. No one has anything to say about those other double votes that were not comming from IB?

[new guy1]

If he is, then lynch all liars, right?

[DoomYoshi]

Vote Count

jonty (1) - new guy

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[jonty125]

I didn't use my ability until pcm came out as double voter, targeted him every night except for the one I target Nendreel. Haven't used my double vote on any day.

[betiko]

I didn't use my ability until pcm came out as double voter, targeted him every night except for the one I target Nendreel. Haven't used my double vote on any day.

how could you use your double any day as you are supposed to steal votes at night? this is supposed to be your first day with a double vote or whatever, you just did a big slip.

vote jonty

[new guy1]

Actually, he was probably speaking of the long string of nights, and sending in 3 actions, just saying.

[Kanin Usagi]

When I get home from class I'll look over everything and cast a vote. Until then, just assume I agree with whatever Betiko says.

Also, a thought: Who is most likely to be mafia, the claimed vote stealer or the claimed vanilla townie?

[new guy1]

I mean I would assume the vote stealer because mine is a neutral role and his is a malicious one in most cases, but thats up to you guys to decide.

[betiko]

I didn't use my ability until pcm came out as double voter, targeted him every night except for the one I target Nendreel. Haven't used my double vote on any day.

this is what bugs me. there is a mafia double voter, we know that. jonty is supposed to be a town vote stealer. It looks like a perfect fakeclaim for a mafia double voter. What really trips my scumdar is what I marked in red. It doesn't fit with the mechanism of what he claims.

[edocsil]

I have tracked jonty and jonty went nowhere in this last round of nights. I would say he is a liar.

Vote jonty.

[betiko]

I have tracked jonty and jonty went nowhere in this last round of nights. I would say he is a liar.

Vote jonty.

oh cool forgot you could track. let's end this! need 2 more votes, kanin and nendreel hammer!!!

[edocsil]

I have tracked jonty and jonty went nowhere in this last round of nights. I would say he is a liar.

Vote jonty.

oh cool forgot you could track. let's end this! need 2 more votes, kanin and nendreel hammer!!!

I couldn't track every night, I'm quasi~dead but that was the result I did get back.

[Nendreel]

Just for clarification, your reports are:
N5, dead (no report)
N1, jonty didn't go anywhere
N2, jonty didn't go anywhere
N6, dead (no report)

correct?

[new guy1]

Wait a minute, not defending him or anything, but does someone go anywhere if they steal someone's vote? I mean I wouldnt think they went to them to take a vote, but then again I dont recall ever being in a situation like this.

[edocsil]

Just for clarification, your reports are:
N5, dead (no report)
N1, jonty didn't go anywhere
N2, jonty didn't go anywhere
N6, dead (no report)

correct?

I would like Jonty to clarify his actions for every night before I reveal that

Wait a minute, not defending him or anything, but does someone go anywhere if they steal someone's vote? I mean I wouldnt think they went to them to take a vote, but then again I dont recall ever being in a situation like this.

Legion in A&D had to target, (he just died). I assume it's the same here, that is the standard for the night version of a active vote stealer, as in one that must target a player to steal.

[betiko]

assuming edoc is telling the truth about being town tracker, and I'm almost certain he is, his role would be pretty pointless if he got no results with the vote disabler or the vote stealer.
Also does it really make sense to have a town vote stealer, having already a double voter and the possibility of having back to back days?

[Kanin Usagi]

Vote Newguy1.

My reasoning: Newguy1 is night six. If we lynch newguy1, we move to day seven, and ALL PLAYERS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED WILL BE DEAD. If that doesn't end the game, we'll wind up with Betiko, Jonty, and myself as the only remaining players alive, and then myself and Betiko could vote and lynch Jonty, thus ending the game as long as no wacky game mechanics come into effect.