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Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four

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spiesr wrote:
pancakemix wrote:No, I'm actually curious because I saw you visit chuck (actually me) last night. So I'm trying to figure out if you're making things up and letting edoc get pushed for no good reason.
So, you are claiming to have watched Chuck last night and saw Nebuchadnezer visit him? Did anybody else show up?


Rishaed (as he claimed) and myself (I watched myself watch myself due to rish's bus.

I should be more clear: I'm not claiming I got the watch as a gift. I'm a watcher, Rigger, (Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life)

Honestly, I think the points where edoc implied he wasn't a vig are damning to his claim. Good on spiesr for pointing that out. I'd like to hear that addressed.
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pancakemix wrote:
spiesr wrote:
pancakemix wrote:No, I'm actually curious because I saw you visit chuck (actually me) last night. So I'm trying to figure out if you're making things up and letting edoc get pushed for no good reason.
So, you are claiming to have watched Chuck last night and saw Nebuchadnezer visit him? Did anybody else show up?


Rishaed (as he claimed) and myself (I watched myself watch myself due to rish's bus.

I should be more clear: I'm not claiming I got the watch as a gift. I'm a watcher, Rigger, (Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life)

Honestly, I think the points where edoc implied he wasn't a vig are damning to his claim. Good on spiesr for pointing that out. I'd like to hear that addressed.


Okay, Watcher...let's see all your actions, please...
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N1: Hank. No visitors. Hinted at it earlier (and by "hinted" I mean "outright blurted it out"):

pancakemix wrote:Anyone else think it's strange that the mafia didn't even go after the claimed doc? I mean, yeah, WIFOM and all that, but really...


N2: Blocked, as spiesr claims.
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Nebuchadnezer wrote:I did not lie. Think about it. Kanin gave me the tracker ability...that's what his role did. Pancake didn't lie either.
I'm not sold on edoc.s claim. It's a convenient way for him to get night kills, without added suspicion. However, I can let him slide for now.

so what were you doing visiting me?
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Vote Count
edocsil (2) - thechuck51; rishaed;

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, deadline is Thursday 14 March @ 1600 GMT. If the vote count were to remain the same until deadline, edocsil will be lynched.
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pancake who did you try to watch on N2
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thechuck51 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:I did not lie. Think about it. Kanin gave me the tracker ability...that's what his role did. Pancake didn't lie either.
I'm not sold on edoc.s claim. It's a convenient way for him to get night kills, without added suspicion. However, I can let him slide for now.

so what were you doing visiting me?


I can tell you what I was NOT doing...I was NOT killing you. :)
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Nebuchadnezer wrote:I can tell you what I was NOT doing...I was NOT killing you. :)
But, what sort of action would you have where it would make sense to target Chuck last night?
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spiesr wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:I can tell you what I was NOT doing...I was NOT killing you. :)
But, what sort of action would you have where it would make sense to target Chuck last night?

I can't answer that without giving away my role.
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I think i figured it out though. Took a few hints for me to catch it.
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So let's break this down:

2. rishaed - Parker, Bodyguard (Alien) (inclined to believe him, told truth about bus)
7. pancakemix - Rigger, Watcher (Pirate's Life) (It's me. Confirmed by Neb)
10. spieser - Roleblocker (PKMN Ch. 2) (Did block me N2)
11. thechuck51 - Bus gifter (Rolegift 2) (Confirmed)
5. edocsil - Vilkas, 2-shot vig (Skyrim) (Sems sketchy. Blocked and no kill, claimed vig and spoke in hypotheticals about it before)

8. crazymilkshake5 replaced by Nebuchadnezer - unclaimed (Didn't lie about visiting chuck, so may or may not be trustworthy. I'm inclined to think he is.)
6. gregwolf121 - unclaimed (nothing)

Considering this, edoc is likely to be scum. Vote Edoc

Everyone remaining seems to be pretty airtight, at least as far as no one seems to be making anything up. That leaves greg as the last remaining unconfirmed. He seems to be scum by process of elimination unless somebody's fibbing.
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I am in favor of lynching edoc'sil at this point. Is there anything else we need to cover before I hammer?
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pancakemix wrote:So let's break this down:

2. rishaed - Parker, Bodyguard (Alien) (inclined to believe him, told truth about bus)
7. pancakemix - Rigger, Watcher (Pirate's Life) (It's me. Confirmed by Neb)
10. spieser - Roleblocker (PKMN Ch. 2) (Did block me N2)
11. thechuck51 - Bus gifter (Rolegift 2) (Confirmed)
5. edocsil - Vilkas, 2-shot vig (Skyrim) (Sems sketchy. Blocked and no kill, claimed vig and spoke in hypotheticals about it before)

8. crazymilkshake5 replaced by Nebuchadnezer - unclaimed (Didn't lie about visiting chuck, so may or may not be trustworthy. I'm inclined to think he is.)
6. gregwolf121 - unclaimed (nothing)

Considering this, edoc is likely to be scum. Vote Edoc

Everyone remaining seems to be pretty airtight, at least as far as no one seems to be making anything up. That leaves greg as the last remaining unconfirmed. He seems to be scum by process of elimination unless somebody's fibbing.


This is what I've been rattling around in my head the past few days. I can't honestly say that any of our claims don't add up. There are scenarios and suggestions that can be made with each of the claimed players, but they require leaps of faith (like, spiesr could really be a mafia roleblocker, and chose not to make a kill last night to set up edoc, or rishaed is not a bodyguard, as he refuses to be forthright with his information the next day, etc, etc.). Out of the players left, pancake and thechuck seem to have the best claims that have been backed up and verified.

So, I will go ahead and vote edoc. That'll be the hammer, so I hope I'm right on this.

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You are of course. My faction only had 2 members and no abilities besides the kill. I contemplated just surrendering after the block, but I figured I had a shot. I didn't look at my early play when I was looking for a a fake, something that has proved to cost me. If the game isn't over with my death look at greg. I suspect there is a cult, so also look for players who have not been able to verify their last actions. I had hoped to steer the town towards that once I was clear of the current case, and become more of the "town" hero, but oh well.
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edocsil wrote:You are of course. My faction only had 2 members and no abilities besides the kill. I contemplated just surrendering after the block, but I figured I had a shot. I didn't look at my early play when I was looking for a a fake, something that has proved to cost me. If the game isn't over with my death look at greg. I suspect there is a cult, so also look for players who have not been able to verify their last actions. I had hoped to steer the town towards that once I was clear of the current case, and become more of the "town" hero, but oh well.

Your initial post on the case after doom was well made. That alone convinced me that you were town. If it wasn't for the fact that you randomly voted chuck in the run-off I don't know if I would have ever voted you.
So well played. =D>
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edocsil - Jack (Mafia Goon) has been lynched.

rishaed - Parker (Town Bodyguard) has won
gregwolf121 - Vanilla (Vanilla Townie) has won
pancakemix - Rigger (Town Watcher) has won
Nebuchadnezer - Doc (Town Doctor) has won
spieser - Date Masamune (Town Roleblocker) has won
thechuck51 - Busdrive Gifter (Busdrive Gifter) has won
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[spoiler=Day One]thechuck51 gifts busdrive to Nebuchadnezer[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Night One]Nebuchadnezer busdrives Nebuchadnezer and edocsil
soundman hides behind DoomYoshi (soundman dies, passive action, can't be stopped)
spiesr roleblocks DoomYoshi
rishaed protects edocsil Nebuchadnezer
Nebuchadnezer protects DoomYoshi
pancakemix watches Hank44Soccer
DoomYoshi kills spiesr ROLEBLOCKED!
Kanin Usagi gifts (tracker) rishaed[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Day Two]thechuck51 gifts busdrive to spiesr[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Night Two]Spiesr busdrives edocsil and gregwolf121
spiesr roleblocks pancakemix
rishaed protects spiesr
Hank44Soccer protects edocsil gregwolf121
pancakemix watches rishaed ROLEBLOCKED!
Rishaed tracks Nebuchadnezer
edocsil kills Iron Butterfly
Kanin Usagi gifts (tracker) Nebuchadnezer[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Day Three]thechuck51 gifts busdrive to rishaed[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Night Three]Rishaed busdrives thechuck51 and pancakemix
spiesr roleblocks edocsil
rishaed protects spiesr
Nebuchadnezer protects thechuck51 pancakemix
pancakemix watches thechuck51 pancakemix
Nebuchadnezer tracks pancakemix thechuck51
edocsil kills Nebuchadnezer ROLEBLOCKED![/spoiler]
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Ooh! Spiesr good job blocking your killer N1! It really helped. (that and mafia botched their fakeclaims) I would have never suspected edoc. And I really did figure out that Neb was a Doc! So happy we didn't force his claim. That being said mafia was way under powered with so many protection roles in the mix
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Hmm and y did hank lie about his N1 action??
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Good game all.

Watcher 2 doc and a bodyguard is an uphill battle for any mafia.
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Wow...quite a bit unbalanced for mafia. Good game!
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So why is it i am Town and lose again? I was a VT with no powers. What is the sense of that?

Thank God I was killed day one.
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Two goons was really not balanced for the mafia. (At least with so many protective roles on the town side.) Edoc'sil was basically screwed once Doom Yoshi was lynched. His own hope would have been to come up with an absolutely airtight claim.
Iron Butterfly wrote:So why is it i am Town and lose again? I was a VT with no powers. What is the sense of that?

Thank God I was killed day one.
Unless your PM said otherwise I would assume you won when the rest of the town did.
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You didn't lose.

All dead town won as well. I forgot to put it in the scene.
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Would have been interesting with more people. I think that eventually with more people it would have become more balanced.
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