TNC vs. FISO [33-12 of 45] - Final 6/27

[MoB Deadly]

The New Crusade vs. FISO!!!

TNC Contact - MoB Deadly
FISO Contact - crispybits

Terms of War:
45 Total Games
8 singles (Each map is best of 5) (2 trench max = no round limit)
12 dubs (2 trench max = 30 rd limit if trench)
12 triples (1 trench max = 30 rd limit if trench)
12 quads (1 trench max = 30 rd limit if trench)
1 tiebreaker

No Unlimited Reinforcements
No Freestyle
No Nukes
No Beta
No Random
No Manual

Maps = once per set
Fog Courtesy is in Effect!
12 game limit (singles series counts as 1)
Tie breaker on random map, fog, no trench, escalating, chained, quads. Tie breaker match will only be played once all other games are finished and only if necessary. Tie breaker game will be created by TNC in Set 2.

1st set: TNC sets 4 singles and 6 quads home games, FISO sets 6 dubs and 6 trips home games
2nd set: FISO sets 4 singles and 6 quads home games, TNC sets 6 dubs and 6 trips home games

TNC Home Set 1 - 9-1

Quads - Rail Africa - Game 12661580 - TNC
Quads - Iberia - Game 12661582 - TNC
Quads - Europe - Game 12661585 - TNC
Quads - New World - Game 12661586 - TNC
Quads - Trafalgar - Game 12661589 - TNC
Quads - Das Schloss - Game 12661591 - TNC

Singles - AoR3 - Game 12661597, Game 12661598, Game 12661599, Game 12661600, Game 12661601 - FISO
Singles - Waterloo - Game 12661602, Game 12661603, Game 12661604, Game 12661606, Game 12661607 - TNC
Singles - Route66 - Game 12661608, Game 12661609, Game 12661610, Game 12661612, Game 12661613 - TNC
Singles - Poison Rome - Game 12661614, Game 12661615, Game 12661616, Game 12661617, Game 12661618 - TNC

FISO Home Set 1 - 7-5

Doubles - Middle Ages - Game 12662181 - TNC
Doubles - AOR2 - Game 12662186 - TNC
Doubles - Circus Maximus - Game 12662187 - FISO
Doubles - Poker Club - Game 12662188 - TNC
Doubles - Supermax: Prison Riot! - Game 12662191 - FISO
Doubles - City Mogul - Game 12662195 - FISO

Triples - Berlin1961 - Game 12662197 - FISO
Triples - Clandemonium - Game 12662199 - FISO
Triples - Rorke's Drift - Game 12662200 - TNC
Triples - Arms Race - Game 12662206 - TNC
Triples - Cricket - Game 12662208 - TNC
Triples - Eurasia - Game 12662210 - TNC

TNC Home Set 2 - 10-2

Doubles:
Doubles - Draknor - Game 12742823 - TNC
Doubles - Europa - Game 12742825 - TNC
Doubles - Chicago - Game 12750991 - TNC
Doubles - Feudal War - Game 12750992 - FISO
Doubles - Great Lakes - Game 12742830 - TNC
Doubles - Germany - Game 12742831 - TNC

Triples:
Triples - Das Schloss - Game 12742832 - TNC
Triples - Europe 1914 - Game 12742833 - TNC
Triples - Halloween Hallows - Game 12742834 - FISO
Triples - Flanders - Game 12742835 - TNC
Triples - American Civil War - Game 12742836 - TNC
Triples - Feudal Epic - Game 12742837 - TNC

FISO Home Set 2

Quads:
Quads - Clandemonium - Game 12745926 - TNC
Quads - Route 66 - Game 12745931 - TNC
Quads - Bamboo Jack - Game 12745932 - TNC
Quads - Atlantis - Game 12745935 - FISO
Quads - Rorke's Drift - Game 12745936 - TNC
Quads - 8 Thoughts - Game 12745937 - FISO

Singles:
Singles - Eurasia - Game 12745891, Game 12745893, Game 12745894, Game 12745896, Game 12745897 - TNC
Singles - Middle Ages - Game 12745901, Game 12745902, Game 12745903, Game 12745904, Game 12745905 - FISO
Singles - Conquer Rome - Game 12745908, Game 12745910, Game 12745911, Game 12745912, Game 12745913 - FISO
Singles - City Mogul - Game 12745914, Game 12745915, Game 12745916, Game 12745917, Game 12745918 - TNC

Tiebreaker: Game 12752191 - TNC

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[MoB Deadly]

Hey crispy - to make it easier - please put something in the game labels specifying Fog Rule to make it easier to remember. thanks

[TheCrown]

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. Let's battle!

[crispybits]

I think we've messed up somewhere along the line MoB, or I've misunderstood - we've ended up with a 22 game war looking at the above.

The proper amount should be:

8 singles (Each map is best of 5) (4 trench max (2 each) = no round limit)
12 dubs (4 trench max (2 each) = 30 rd limit if trench)
12 triples (2 trench max (1 each) = 30 rd limit if trench)
12 quads (2 trench max (1 each) = 30 rd limit if trench)

Total: 44 games

1st set: TNC sets 4 singles and 6 quads home games, FISO sets 6 dubs and 6 trips home games
2nd set: FISO sets 4 singles and 6 quads home games, TNC sets 6 dubs and 6 trips home games

(At least that's how I thought it was working from the PM conversation we had - the negotiation numbers were per set not for the entire war)

[Vid_FISO]

I think we've messed up somewhere along the line MoB, or I've misunderstood - we've ended up with a 22 game war looking at the above.

22 each = 44

quads in the first set were to enable the trench game(s) not to hold things up?

edit: shouldn't matter if we play our one map in the first set anyway?

[crispybits]

Yeah could well be just me being stupoid I just wanna make sure it's all clear

And the quads were never all gonna be in the first set in the other thread - it was always gonna be split like that.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[Vid_FISO]

I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. Let's battle!

So you don't know or like us? tsk!

Should be a fun fight, we won't lose by as many as you think! In fact we might not lose at all if crispy picks better maps, settings and teams than I do

[crispybits]

stupoid idioid

shuuuuuuuush u

Change those sets and we're good to go - double checked the rest and it's all fine

if crispy picks better maps, settings and teams than I do

All games: Crispybits + others on clandemonium trench - job done

[Vid_FISO]

One query - "maps once per set" means we (or you) could play exactly the same maps/ settings/ teams in both sets?

[crispybits]

The way I understood it is our first set can only use any given map once - but if they pick the same map for their set it's fine, then all maps come back into play for the second sets.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[TheCrown]

It was a LOR quote....

I actually know less than half of you and I don't dislike any. Peace!

[crispybits]

That's only cos you don't know us yet TC

[Vid_FISO]

The way I understood it is our first set can only use any given map once - but if they pick the same map for their set it's fine, then all maps come back into play for the second sets.

yup

Hopefully mob fixes the #'s up top soon.

I could only imagine the 4 of us trying to put together a puzzle

As things stand both clans could pick exactly the same maps, settings and players in set 2 as in set one, unless they wish to use trench quads and trips, but the 2nd use of those maps could still be quads for quads and trips for trips with the same players, just no trench. Not saying that I'd object to playing the same 2/3 maps and settings twice, but it does need to be clear whether this is what is intended and therefore likely to be used.

[crispybits]

But in set 2 we're picking singles and quads, so anything we picked for trips and dubs will be different - there will be no way either clan can pick exactly the same map and settings twice (assuming "settings" also extends to how many players on each team)

[MoB Deadly]

The proper amount should be:

8 singles (Each map is best of 5) (4 trench max (2 each) = no round limit)
12 dubs (4 trench max (2 each) = 30 rd limit if trench)
12 triples (2 trench max (1 each) = 30 rd limit if trench)
12 quads (2 trench max (1 each) = 30 rd limit if trench)

Total: 44 games

Fixed - 44 games, +1 for tiebreaker

1st set: TNC sets 4 singles and 6 quads home games, FISO sets 6 dubs and 6 trips home games
2nd set: FISO sets 4 singles and 6 quads home games, TNC sets 6 dubs and 6 trips home games

Fixed and Copied and pasted this exactly. Sorry not trying to pull a fast one on you, I was confused!

Change those sets and we're good to go - double checked the rest and it's all fine

Cool! Can't wait to get this started!

As things stand both clans could pick exactly the same maps, settings and players in set 2 as in set one, unless they wish to use trench quads and trips, but the 2nd use of those maps could still be quads for quads and trips for trips with the same players, just no trench. Not saying that I'd object to playing the same 2/3 maps and settings twice, but it does need to be clear whether this is what is intended and therefore likely to be used.

I thought this was the case at first as well. But as crispy said, we are alternating what game types we play, so it is impossible for the same clan to pick same settings and map twice. You may see the same map twice, but that is it.

[Vid_FISO]

Thanks for tidying everything up, terms now as agreed, looking forward to seeing crispy's approach to the war.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[Vid_FISO]

So, the tiebreaker game cant be a "Play only if needed" status
Not sure how we want to fit it in there, but yeah.

If it's needed for medals then it's needed

[puppydog85]

It was a LOR quote....

I actually know less than half of you and I don't dislike any. Peace!

I got it! Loved that part in the movie! and specifically it's: LOTR

[MoB Deadly]

So, the tiebreaker game cant be a "Play only if needed" status
Not sure how we want to fit it in there, but yeah.

Tie breaker game will be created by TNC in Set 2.

Fixed.

[puppydog85]

How do you have a best of 5 out of 4 games? In the singles that is.

[MoB Deadly]

How do you have a best of 5 out of 4 games? In the singles that is.

its really 20 games total for 1v1. So if TNC picks 1v1 on classic starring Me.

One of FISO members has to play me 5 games on Classic. Whoever wins more games, gets ONE point towards the final score. This is to make the 1v1 games more fair, because it can be debated that 1v1's could have a lot of luck involved if one player gets to go first and/or gets a good drop