I think that it's possible Neb's last night action was to give the PR to Flores. Not exactly sure what happened to MM's PR gift, but I suppose that can be sorted out later. However, no explanation by caffeine about how he stopped DY? At this stage in the game, withholding information is not all that useful as the game will probably end soon and if you die now, the aggregate amount of information we lose is much more detrimental to town than if you die early in the game.
We already had one town roleblocker dead, nothing indicates to me that we have two of the same roles on the same alignment unless one of them is some sort of sanity role. And an insane roleblocker would be absolutely useless.
Also, as said before, blocking doom doesn't necessarily block the mafia kill, depending on the mechanics of the particular game, any mafia member can make the kill or the leader, so blocking Doom wouldn't prevent his kill unless he's the only member left in his group.
I see no reason not to unvote you. If you're town, you have a near useless role, and I think it's much more likely you're not town.
So, Flores, you're saying MM got a red light on Jonty?
Caffeine, I suggest you make a full claim. Your partial claim is only making people more confused/incredulous. It'd be good to know more about you so we can decide whether to lynch you or focus on the MM/Flores/Jonty situation. Do note that I'd rather follow the "cop's" lead, but with you claiming to have roleblocked Yoshi when a town roleblocker has already died and simultaneously denying that you're a jailkeeper, things get hard to believe and I can't blame Saf for sticking with his vote on you.
DoomYoshi wrote:I am Jigglypuff, roleblocker, and I keep blocking saf (i dont remember n1 anymore) but if his kills aren't going through, i am probably ineffective.
iAmCaffeine wrote:I can block people's night actions okay? N1 I can't remember. N2 and N3 I blocked DY. N4 I blocked jonty.
It seems increasingly obvious to me that as much as I distrust Caffeine, the only positive way for this day to proceed would be to pursue either Flores and/or jonty (depending if we believe the claims). I am leaning towards Jonty at this point but I will wait to hear what everyone's thinking before I unvote caffeine or vote someone else.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
strike wolf wrote:It seems increasingly obvious to me that as much as I distrust Caffeine, the only positive way for this day to proceed would be to pursue either Flores and/or jonty (depending if we believe the claims). I am leaning towards Jonty at this point but I will wait to hear what everyone's thinking before I unvote caffeine or vote someone else.
Wait, how do you mean "positive" exactly? Are you saying you believe his partial claim? Or do you believe we're being too harsh with our line of questioning? Honestly, I believe unless he makes a more substantial claim, I don't see a better lead.
strike wolf wrote:It seems increasingly obvious to me that as much as I distrust Caffeine, the only positive way for this day to proceed would be to pursue either Flores and/or jonty (depending if we believe the claims). I am leaning towards Jonty at this point but I will wait to hear what everyone's thinking before I unvote caffeine or vote someone else.
Wait, how do you mean "positive" exactly? Are you saying you believe his partial claim? Or do you believe we're being too harsh with our line of questioning? Honestly, I believe unless he makes a more substantial claim, I don't see a better lead.
I would say that Caffeine could give us scum but it seems that between Flores and Jonty there is a greater chance for it and we can use that extra night to form more opinions on Caffeine. Secondly, investigating cases on Flores and Jonty, may make Rodion's claims in this game more significant. If we go after caffeine, I think we'll just run into the same Flores and Jonty problem tomorrow.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
strike wolf wrote:It seems increasingly obvious to me that as much as I distrust Caffeine, the only positive way for this day to proceed would be to pursue either Flores and/or jonty (depending if we believe the claims). I am leaning towards Jonty at this point but I will wait to hear what everyone's thinking before I unvote caffeine or vote someone else.
Wait, how do you mean "positive" exactly? Are you saying you believe his partial claim? Or do you believe we're being too harsh with our line of questioning? Honestly, I believe unless he makes a more substantial claim, I don't see a better lead.
I would say that Caffeine could give us scum but it seems that between Flores and Jonty there is a greater chance for it and we can use that extra night to form more opinions on Caffeine. Secondly, investigating cases on Flores and Jonty, may make Rodion's claims in this game more significant. If we go after caffeine, I think we'll just run into the same Flores and Jonty problem tomorrow.
That may be true, but Caffeine lies.
War doesn't determine who's right; it determines who's left.
strike wolf wrote:It seems increasingly obvious to me that as much as I distrust Caffeine, the only positive way for this day to proceed would be to pursue either Flores and/or jonty (depending if we believe the claims). I am leaning towards Jonty at this point but I will wait to hear what everyone's thinking before I unvote caffeine or vote someone else.
Wait, how do you mean "positive" exactly? Are you saying you believe his partial claim? Or do you believe we're being too harsh with our line of questioning? Honestly, I believe unless he makes a more substantial claim, I don't see a better lead.
I would say that Caffeine could give us scum but it seems that between Flores and Jonty there is a greater chance for it and we can use that extra night to form more opinions on Caffeine. Secondly, investigating cases on Flores and Jonty, may make Rodion's claims in this game more significant. If we go after caffeine, I think we'll just run into the same Flores and Jonty problem tomorrow.
That may be true, but Caffeine lies.
would you care to elaborate? in what way has caffeine lied
strike wolf wrote:It seems increasingly obvious to me that as much as I distrust Caffeine, the only positive way for this day to proceed would be to pursue either Flores and/or jonty (depending if we believe the claims). I am leaning towards Jonty at this point but I will wait to hear what everyone's thinking before I unvote caffeine or vote someone else.
Wait, how do you mean "positive" exactly? Are you saying you believe his partial claim? Or do you believe we're being too harsh with our line of questioning? Honestly, I believe unless he makes a more substantial claim, I don't see a better lead.
I would say that Caffeine could give us scum but it seems that between Flores and Jonty there is a greater chance for it and we can use that extra night to form more opinions on Caffeine. Secondly, investigating cases on Flores and Jonty, may make Rodion's claims in this game more significant. If we go after caffeine, I think we'll just run into the same Flores and Jonty problem tomorrow.
That may be true, but Caffeine lies.
would you care to elaborate? in what way has caffeine lied
jonty125 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:I can block people's night actions okay? N1 I can't remember. N2 and N3 I blocked DY. N4 I blocked jonty.
I was not blocked on N4
War doesn't determine who's right; it determines who's left.
strike wolf wrote:It seems increasingly obvious to me that as much as I distrust Caffeine, the only positive way for this day to proceed would be to pursue either Flores and/or jonty (depending if we believe the claims). I am leaning towards Jonty at this point but I will wait to hear what everyone's thinking before I unvote caffeine or vote someone else.
Wait, how do you mean "positive" exactly? Are you saying you believe his partial claim? Or do you believe we're being too harsh with our line of questioning? Honestly, I believe unless he makes a more substantial claim, I don't see a better lead.
I would say that Caffeine could give us scum but it seems that between Flores and Jonty there is a greater chance for it and we can use that extra night to form more opinions on Caffeine. Secondly, investigating cases on Flores and Jonty, may make Rodion's claims in this game more significant. If we go after caffeine, I think we'll just run into the same Flores and Jonty problem tomorrow.
That may be true, but Caffeine lies.
would you care to elaborate? in what way has caffeine lied
jonty125 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:I can block people's night actions okay? N1 I can't remember. N2 and N3 I blocked DY. N4 I blocked jonty.
I was not blocked on N4
I have not lied. If my block didn't work then there is nothing I can do about that, but you were who I went for N4.
@MM - I genuinely cannot remember N1, although I'm pretty sure it was Neb or DY, probably the former.
DoomYoshi wrote:I am Jigglypuff, roleblocker, and I keep blocking saf (i dont remember n1 anymore) but if his kills aren't going through, i am probably ineffective.
iAmCaffeine wrote:I can block people's night actions okay? N1 I can't remember. N2 and N3 I blocked DY. N4 I blocked jonty.
DoomYoshi wrote:I am Jigglypuff, roleblocker, and I keep blocking saf (i dont remember n1 anymore) but if his kills aren't going through, i am probably ineffective.
iAmCaffeine wrote:I can block people's night actions okay? N1 I can't remember. N2 and N3 I blocked DY. N4 I blocked jonty.
It's pretty easy to forget. I am constantly having to empty my Inbox due to the flow of messages, and yes I have separate folders.
You're always so aggressive. Try chilling the f*ck out. Most of us don't use this site just to play mafia, and I for one won't be doing it again. Please lynch me and then watch as mafia win, even though - as aforementioned - lynching Flores of Jonty actually helps us.