Football (real)

[chang50]

11/12 season he was pretty rubbish. Last season was alright. Man I'll never forget his goal against City in 2011, was staying in a small hotel on an island 3 days by boat from India. Lucky they had cable in their reception, I cheered so loud the staff gave me funny looks for the rest of my stay there. He is a funny player, can look one of the best in Europe one season then a pile of horse hung the next.

I'm so happy I'm actually celebrating a Sunderland win,long may Man U's decline last : )

[betiko]

11/12 season he was pretty rubbish. Last season was alright. Man I'll never forget his goal against City in 2011, was staying in a small hotel on an island 3 days by boat from India. Lucky they had cable in their reception, I cheered so loud the staff gave me funny looks for the rest of my stay there. He is a funny player, can look one of the best in Europe one season then a pile of horse hung the next.

I'm so happy I'm actually celebrating a Sunderland win,long may Man U's decline last : )

+1

[nagerous]

Gustavo poyet from the real zaragoza is sunderland s coach? I think he played in england a bit towards the end of his career, was it chelsea or something?
I just know that i don t like sunderland and that the more they lose and feel like it s unfair the happier i am. Newcastle rules the north, sorry about their little ass. And di canio seriously?? What went through their mind?? They got what they deserved.

Poyet spent 7 years in Spain at Zaragoza, then 4 at Chelsea, 3 at Spurs. He is a well known figure in the UK and has coached here for a long time too.

[betiko]

ha, just saw in l'équipe today, they published the ranking of the best paid managers, Moyes must be damn good he's #7 in the world lol(in million euros per year):

Pep Guardiola (Bayern Munich) 17
José Mourinho (Chelsea) 10,3
Marcelo Lippi (Guangzhou) 10
Arsène Wenger (Arsenal) 8,26
Fabio Capello (Russie) 7,8
Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid) 7,5
David Moyes (Mznchester United) 5,9
Gerardo Martino (FC Barcelone) 5,4
Jürgen Klopp (Borussia Dortmund) 4,3
Manuel Pellegrini (Manchester City) 4,16
Jorge Jesus (Benfica Lisbonne) 4
Brendan Rodgers (Liverpool) 3,89
Sam Allardyce (West Ham) 3,54
Roy Hodgson (Angleterre) 3,54
Roberto Mancini (Galatasaray) 3,5
Rafael Benitez (Naples) 3,5
Luciano Spaletti (Zénith St-Pétersbourg) 3,3
Claudio Ranieri (Monaco) 3
Laurent Blanc (PSG) 3
Antonio Conte (Juventus Turin) 3
Cesare Prandelli (Italie) 3

[nietzsche]

ha, just saw in l'équipe today, they published the ranking of the best paid managers, Moyes must be damn good he's #7 in the world lol(in million euros per year):

Pep Guardiola (Bayern Munich) 17
José Mourinho (Chelsea) 10,3
Marcelo Lippi (Guangzhou) 10
Arsène Wenger (Arsenal) 8,26
Fabio Capello (Russie) 7,8
Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid) 7,5
David Moyes (Mznchester United) 5,9
Gerardo Martino (FC Barcelone) 5,4
Jürgen Klopp (Borussia Dortmund) 4,3
Manuel Pellegrini (Manchester City) 4,16
Jorge Jesus (Benfica Lisbonne) 4
Brendan Rodgers (Liverpool) 3,89
Sam Allardyce (West Ham) 3,54
Roy Hodgson (Angleterre) 3,54
Roberto Mancini (Galatasaray) 3,5
Rafael Benitez (Naples) 3,5
Luciano Spaletti (Zénith St-Pétersbourg) 3,3
Claudio Ranieri (Monaco) 3
Laurent Blanc (PSG) 3
Antonio Conte (Juventus Turin) 3
Cesare Prandelli (Italie) 3

Guardiola is higly overrated. Why did Bayern Munich had to change coaches?

[iAmCaffeine]

Why is he overrated? Don't forget he did a lot of work building up the champion team before becoming the manager.

[betiko]

ha, just saw in l'équipe today, they published the ranking of the best paid managers, Moyes must be damn good he's #7 in the world lol(in million euros per year):

Pep Guardiola (Bayern Munich) 17
José Mourinho (Chelsea) 10,3
Marcelo Lippi (Guangzhou) 10
Arsène Wenger (Arsenal) 8,26
Fabio Capello (Russie) 7,8
Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid) 7,5
David Moyes (Mznchester United) 5,9
Gerardo Martino (FC Barcelone) 5,4
Jürgen Klopp (Borussia Dortmund) 4,3
Manuel Pellegrini (Manchester City) 4,16
Jorge Jesus (Benfica Lisbonne) 4
Brendan Rodgers (Liverpool) 3,89
Sam Allardyce (West Ham) 3,54
Roy Hodgson (Angleterre) 3,54
Roberto Mancini (Galatasaray) 3,5
Rafael Benitez (Naples) 3,5
Luciano Spaletti (Zénith St-Pétersbourg) 3,3
Claudio Ranieri (Monaco) 3
Laurent Blanc (PSG) 3
Antonio Conte (Juventus Turin) 3
Cesare Prandelli (Italie) 3

Guardiola is higly overrated. Why did Bayern Munich had to change coaches?

Heynckess said he would retire at the end of the season, maybe that s not a good reason?
While I disagree that guardiola is highly over rated (unless you are a real madrid fanboy living in a cave that has never seen the real tiki taka), i agree that his salary is completely over rated.

[nagerous]

Fat Sam is paid far too much.

The FA need to stop paying Hodgson so much and invest more in the countries youth facilities so we can actually produce some quality players like Germany and Spain.

[nagerous]

Was just reading the first post and it had a few ROFL moments.

right with the football season starting tomorrow in england. i thought that everyone around the world could post how their teams are getting on. also who you support no matter what division they are in and what country. if it`s the spanish 3rd division get posting that aswell.

if you think your team are going to do well this season, put that down. also how much money spent and who they`ve bought and i you think how good they will do (the new players that is).

as a Man City fan, my expectations of this year are quite high. with our dodgy ex-primeminister of thailand now in control with all his dodgy money . we`ve spent around 40 odd million on 8 players at the moment. more to come hopefully.

Man City have definitely progressed dramatically winning the title and are now starting to dominate other Premier League teams on a weekly basis, only got their away form to sort out and they can be as good as Bayern currently are.

As A portsmouth fan, I expect a top 10 finish, maybe if we are lucky a european spot.

Portsmouth however... well, last time I looked they had gone all the way down to League 2 and are near the bottom as well, with the potential threat of falling out the football league. What has happened to that club? They have done the complete polar opposite of Swansea.

Manchester United Fan here


Tevez is a new manchester united player


we have also bought Nani & Anderson (the new Ronaldo and Ronaldinho)



We are going to cruise the league and dominate europe, look out world United are going to be doing the "99" season once again

Anderson the new Ronaldinho is one of the biggest jokes I have ever seen. Nani is hardly a Ronaldo either though he does have occasional glimpses of talent.

[nietzsche]

ha, just saw in l'équipe today, they published the ranking of the best paid managers, Moyes must be damn good he's #7 in the world lol(in million euros per year):

Pep Guardiola (Bayern Munich) 17
José Mourinho (Chelsea) 10,3
Marcelo Lippi (Guangzhou) 10
Arsène Wenger (Arsenal) 8,26
Fabio Capello (Russie) 7,8
Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid) 7,5
David Moyes (Mznchester United) 5,9
Gerardo Martino (FC Barcelone) 5,4
Jürgen Klopp (Borussia Dortmund) 4,3
Manuel Pellegrini (Manchester City) 4,16
Jorge Jesus (Benfica Lisbonne) 4
Brendan Rodgers (Liverpool) 3,89
Sam Allardyce (West Ham) 3,54
Roy Hodgson (Angleterre) 3,54
Roberto Mancini (Galatasaray) 3,5
Rafael Benitez (Naples) 3,5
Luciano Spaletti (Zénith St-Pétersbourg) 3,3
Claudio Ranieri (Monaco) 3
Laurent Blanc (PSG) 3
Antonio Conte (Juventus Turin) 3
Cesare Prandelli (Italie) 3

Guardiola is higly overrated. Why did Bayern Munich had to change coaches?

Heynckess said he would retire at the end of the season, maybe that s not a good reason?
While I disagree that guardiola is highly over rated (unless you are a real madrid fanboy living in a cave that has never seen the real tiki taka), i agree that his salary is completely over rated.

Yeah, when I was ending my post I remembered he was retiring but left it like that anyway.

What happened with Barcelona FC when Guardiola left? Tito did it fine. And when Tito leave? Martino is doing good. So maybe it doesn't depend so much on the coach.

Much difference with what's happening with Manchester UTD.

Speaking of "tiki taka", someone from inside Barcelona FC said recently that the "tiki taka" was created by Xavi, Iniesta, Messi and Busquets, didn't mention Pep. And btw, I find "tiki taka" extremely boring, I can't stand to watch a complete game by Barcelona FC. It might be extremely effective but if every team in the world played like them, I wouldn't watch football at all.

And yes I'm a RM fanboy. BTW, how is Betis doing? Still in Primera?

[Trevor33]

Jesus that was an old post... I was at Nani's and I think Anderson's debut @ Glentoran all those years ago. Remember Nani scoring a nice goal and looking like to could progress into a quality player, pity he hasn't proformed in the past couple of seasons. TBH I think it's a Manchester thing, when he leave he'll do a Forlan and show what kind of player he is. Anderson is just crap.

[betiko]

ha, just saw in l'équipe today, they published the ranking of the best paid managers, Moyes must be damn good he's #7 in the world lol(in million euros per year):

Pep Guardiola (Bayern Munich) 17
José Mourinho (Chelsea) 10,3
Marcelo Lippi (Guangzhou) 10
Arsène Wenger (Arsenal) 8,26
Fabio Capello (Russie) 7,8
Carlo Ancelotti (Real Madrid) 7,5
David Moyes (Mznchester United) 5,9
Gerardo Martino (FC Barcelone) 5,4
Jürgen Klopp (Borussia Dortmund) 4,3
Manuel Pellegrini (Manchester City) 4,16
Jorge Jesus (Benfica Lisbonne) 4
Brendan Rodgers (Liverpool) 3,89
Sam Allardyce (West Ham) 3,54
Roy Hodgson (Angleterre) 3,54
Roberto Mancini (Galatasaray) 3,5
Rafael Benitez (Naples) 3,5
Luciano Spaletti (Zénith St-Pétersbourg) 3,3
Claudio Ranieri (Monaco) 3
Laurent Blanc (PSG) 3
Antonio Conte (Juventus Turin) 3
Cesare Prandelli (Italie) 3

Guardiola is higly overrated. Why did Bayern Munich had to change coaches?

Heynckess said he would retire at the end of the season, maybe that s not a good reason?
While I disagree that guardiola is highly over rated (unless you are a real madrid fanboy living in a cave that has never seen the real tiki taka), i agree that his salary is completely over rated.

Yeah, when I was ending my post I remembered he was retiring but left it like that anyway.

What happened with Barcelona FC when Guardiola left? Tito did it fine. And when Tito leave? Martino is doing good. So maybe it doesn't depend so much on the coach.

Much difference with what's happening with Manchester UTD.

Speaking of "tiki taka", someone from inside Barcelona FC said recently that the "tiki taka" was created by Xavi, Iniesta, Messi and Busquets, didn't mention Pep. And btw, I find "tiki taka" extremely boring, I can't stand to watch a complete game by Barcelona FC. It might be extremely effective but if every team in the world played like them, I wouldn't watch football at all.

And yes I'm a RM fanboy. BTW, how is Betis doing? Still in Primera?

Are you that thick? Guardiola was burned out and Tito was his second. Basically they did everything to make Tito a clone of Guardiola, and Pep left only when they felt that Tito could make a cut/paste, keeping the same players that knew what to do anyways.
Tata is another thing, and the game is criticized a lot. Nevertheless he has pretty good results. The players were burned out of the tiki taka, too much posession without scoring enough in the late days of Tito.
If you find the tiki taka extremely boring, maybe you had loads of fun with mourinho's game style?? Loooool. Come on, fanboy...

By the way.. Busquets was found and brought to the team by Pep (although he is the son of barça s keeper in the 90s when Pep was a player there, so he knows him since he was a little kid). How can busquets invent the tiki taka you smart person? If you had a bit of football culture, you would know that it somehow started in Mexico, your homeland. Juanma Lillo was coaching a taco team there. He was a well known coach for the spectacular play of his teams, with a lot of verticality, movement forward and scoring lots of goals. His teams had alwYs been shit in defense... Anyway, Pep spent a lot of time there with him in Mexico to theorize about football attack. Hopefully he took just the best from him as his teams were total shit defensively.
Luis Aragones, being head coach of Spain for the eurocup 2008 contributed a lot to the tiki taka as well, receiving all those barça players and blending them in with the madrid players.

Anyway, if guardiola s team is remembered as the best in the history of football it s because of its results, extreme domination AND the eyecandy it was to watch it play.

[betiko]

sounds like PSG will go very seriously for 3 players next summer: Hazard (60k), Pogba (60k) and Griezmann (30k)

[iAmCaffeine]

I don't even want to talk about the Leeds result.

[nietzsche]

Are you that thick?

Yes, I'm in good shape.

How can busquets invent the tiki taka you smart person? If you had a bit of football culture, you would know that it somehow started in Mexico, your homeland. Juanma Lillo was coaching a taco team there. He was a well known coach for the spectacular play of his teams, with a lot of verticality, movement forward and scoring lots of goals. His teams had alwYs been shit in defense... Anyway, Pep spent a lot of time there with him in Mexico to theorize about football attack. Hopefully he took just the best from him as his teams were total shit defensively.

I just posted what I read, a person from inside of Barcelona FC saying that it was Xavi, Iniesta, Messi and Busquets who invented tiki taka. I really don't care for tiki taka as I said, it bores me. Nothing you can do about, you can call me what you want, it's my personal taste and a really find it boring, even more boring that the cattenacio in the Calcio in the 90s, at least those were very disputed intense matches.

I'm aware of Lillo and Pep here in Mexico, they were close to here for a couple of years, Pep was once in our business, and I overcharged him. They didn't do very good btw.

Anyway, if guardiola s team is remembered as the best in the history of football it s because of its results, extreme domination AND the eyecandy it was to watch it play.

Eyecandy? Lol. As exciting as watching Tiger goods win the masters.

I did like Iniesta a lot though, I'm not saying they are bad, they were extremely good, only boring.


And you forgot to anwer my question:

And yes I'm a RM fanboy. BTW, how is Betis doing? Still in Primera?

[betiko]

we are still in primera indeed, till the end of the year. we are still playing in europe as well, and we are still playing the copa del rey (won 1-0 vs athletic on the first leg).

Congrats to your poster boy. great ballon d'or win. I never saw a player win so many things in just a year, leading his team to so many successes. Most deserved ballon d'or ever!

[nietzsche]

we are still in primera indeed, till the end of the year. we are still playing in europe as well, and we are still playing the copa del rey (won 1-0 vs athletic on the first leg).

Congrats to your poster boy. great ballon d'or win. I never saw a player win so many things in just a year, leading his team to so many successes. Most deserved ballon d'or ever!

And today he played the worst game I can remember of him.

[chang50]

I don't even want to talk about the Leeds result.

\ At least u didn't have a perfectly good goal chalked off at 1=0 against the champions=elect which may have changed the momentum of the game.Never liked the interfering with play rule but it should be fairly applied if we must have it.

[iAmCaffeine]

I don't even want to talk about the Leeds result.

\ At least u didn't have a perfectly good goal chalked off at 1=0 against the champions=elect which may have changed the momentum of the game.Never liked the interfering with play rule but it should be fairly applied if we must have it.

Agreed, but I'd rather that than out worst defeat in 55 years.

[chang50]

I don't even want to talk about the Leeds result.

\ At least u didn't have a perfectly good goal chalked off at 1=0 against the champions=elect which may have changed the momentum of the game.Never liked the interfering with play rule but it should be fairly applied if we must have it.

Agreed, but I'd rather that than out worst defeat in 55 years.

And in a derby..I feel ur pain.

[betiko]

we are still in primera indeed, till the end of the year. we are still playing in europe as well, and we are still playing the copa del rey (won 1-0 vs athletic on the first leg).

Congrats to your poster boy. great ballon d'or win. I never saw a player win so many things in just a year, leading his team to so many successes. Most deserved ballon d'or ever!

And today he played the worst game I can remember of him.

well at least it's a great operation for madrid, they are now 3 points away from barça and atleti. I'd love to see the atleti win this season. So fucking tired of Barça and Madrid winning every league in the past 10 years.
I am really impressed by the work done by Simeone.
I love how cristiana wasn't going in the first ceremony because everybody knew ribery had more votes, but then when they gave the "extra vote time", he knows he will win so not only he goes but he brings his whole family.

In France, PSG is now 5 points ahead of Monaco and 7 from Lille, as none of them won this week end.

[JoshyBoy]

Ronaldo won the Ballon d'or?

[#1_stunna]

Ronaldo won the Ballon d'or?

=ESPN
THIS JUST IN: Cristiano Ronaldo wins 2013 FIFA Ballon d'Or, his second. He had 69 goals and 16 assists in 59 games for club and country in 2013.

[JoshyBoy]

Thanks stunna

[betiko]

Big surprise eh? As if this sport needed its players to be even more selfish and personal stats oriented. I am sure that winning a ballon d or means more to cristiana than winning a champion s league with his club.