Congrats to FreeFalling123, our new Conqueror!

[Fruitcake]

Well this has degenerated smartly.

I see a lock coming

[betiko]

Bill clinton would be offended too if someone told him he got those ladies through abuse of power and not through seduction.

[FreeFalling123]

Thank you for the applause, -- josko, rhp, neitz, kraph, georgi, swimma, nos, duka, shannon... iac? P

I don't know what lance armstrong or bill clinton have to do with my conqueror status, but if anyone has a secretary that wants to meet the conqueror I would certainly approve (preferably a 5'8, brunette with extremely wealthy parents). Also, if there are any drugs that could potentially boost my score a little higher I would appreciated that information as well -- preferably not black death or acid. . . can I even say that on here??

I'm not going to make a big speech about all the players who taught me over the years -- I would say experience helps + trusting your instincts and not giving a shit... Of course, I'm honored enough to be in this position alone and even more honored for all who have made this journey worthwhile. The mods do a great job to keep the site fair (although I have lost a couple of points to glitches and horrible players that should be exiled). so all in all +1 CC family...

Hopefully, we will learn from our mistakes. Namely, if there is a problem with the site search the forum for a resolution as well as looking within our own depths before going rogue and playing on other peoples accounts. BTW how the eff does everyone know about that?!? Is there like a tracking device/camera in my house I don't know about?! It was only for like a day and a half :'(

And for the record, I wouldn't have lost that many points... but the thing about that is... nobody would have let me win any of those games in the first place...thats kind of why I did it... so my record would have been wayy different....just look at the last battle royal I played....

[iAmCaffeine]

nobody would have let me win any of those games in the first place...thats kind of why I did it... so my record would have been wayy different....

The deeper meaning of this is hilarious. Moving on.

[Fruitcake]

nobody would have let me win any of those games in the first place...thats kind of why I did it... so my record would have been wayy different....

The deeper meaning of this is hilarious. Moving on.

Chortle

[ChrisPond]

nobody would have let me win any of those games in the first place...thats kind of why I did it... so my record would have been wayy different....

The deeper meaning of this is hilarious. Moving on.

Hahaha. Heading over to C&A right now.

[FreeFalling123]

you are a pretty deep guy IAC... obviously I could be a little more direct in my statement. Let me rephrase that for you. . .Had I been on my account I would have had 0% winning chances. Knowing this I would not have been in the games in the first place. However, since I was illegitimately on another account, the games became easy wins. All 1 and a half (SPECIAL CC B)days of them.... Whatever interpretation you want to make of my first statement, go right ahead. I cannot play terminator games anymore so I'm closing the front door on those setting. Not sure how else to make that more clear to you.

To continue from here, it will obviously suck... nobody wants to be at 4k+ points and be a speed game player. It's not a fun situation. There just aren't very many options for my kind and since my kind is such a minority and people give up on my kind constantly there is almost no hope for any improvements. It's a very much nay-say world when it comes to the point system. It's not even that it's difficult to stay on top, it's the fact that people are getting 2 to 1 on their money at 3k points and these are all masters of the game that a 4k+ player would have to dominate. It's over 4 to 1 at 2k points and if there is any chance at all I can lose to a player at 1k points just eff that game type all together

[Fruitcake]

you are a pretty deep guy IAC... obviously I could be a little more direct in my statement. Let me rephrase that for you. . .Had I been on my account I would have had 0% winning chances. Knowing this I would not have been in the games in the first place. However, since I was illegitimately on another account, the games became easy wins. All 1 and a half (SPECIAL CC B)days of them.... Whatever interpretation you want to make of my first statement, go right ahead. I cannot play terminator games anymore so I'm closing the front door on those setting. Not sure how else to make that more clear to you.

To continue from here, it will obviously suck... nobody wants to be at 4k+ points and be a speed game player. It's not a fun situation. There just aren't very many options for my kind and since my kind is such a minority and people give up on my kind constantly there is almost no hope for any improvements. It's a very much nay-say world when it comes to the point system. It's not even that it's difficult to stay on top, it's the fact that people are getting 2 to 1 on their money at 3k points and these are all masters of the game that a 4k+ player would have to dominate. It's over 4 to 1 at 2k points and if there is any chance at all I can lose to a player at 1k points just eff that game type all together

I am stunned you actually wrote the above. It is a perfectly self authored testament to your character.

[iAmCaffeine]

you are a pretty deep guy IAC... obviously I could be a little more direct in my statement. Let me rephrase that for you. . .Had I been on my account I would have had 0% winning chances. Knowing this I would not have been in the games in the first place. However, since I was illegitimately on another account, the games became easy wins. All 1 and a half (SPECIAL CC B)days of them.... Whatever interpretation you want to make of my first statement, go right ahead. I cannot play terminator games anymore so I'm closing the front door on those setting. Not sure how else to make that more clear to you.

To continue from here, it will obviously suck... nobody wants to be at 4k+ points and be a speed game player. It's not a fun situation. There just aren't very many options for my kind and since my kind is such a minority and people give up on my kind constantly there is almost no hope for any improvements. It's a very much nay-say world when it comes to the point system. It's not even that it's difficult to stay on top, it's the fact that people are getting 2 to 1 on their money at 3k points and these are all masters of the game that a 4k+ player would have to dominate. It's over 4 to 1 at 2k points and if there is any chance at all I can lose to a player at 1k points just eff that game type all together

I am well aware of what you meant by your statement.

[FreeFalling123]

lol all right IAC, and fruitcake there is nothing being said of skill level. The fact that I am over 4k is a legitimate statement. There is a point barrier that nobody likes at 4k+. If u want to argue with me, then you might as well try it out for yourself. You should also take a look at a couple stats, for example, take a look at which players have lost more games for over 70 points or won games for under 5. Obviously, it's a little hard to convince 95% of the population to change the point barrier when it's so nice for them. I can tell you right now my score reflects a luck streak / point jump starting 2-4 months prior.

And as I reflect, as my points have grown I have been affected by the deception that the score brings to my name. In games I started at colonel or major people didn't see me as that different, but as soon as I moved up to general and above it had a HUGE impact on my long-term games. People who were truced with me decided I would be able to fair on my own since I had more points. I somehow became a bigger threat and games swung in a hurry. Why would I want to play those games then? And why do people think that high rankers are then dbags for not opening up to more games like that? I will admit... it is pretty fun stomping on some nooblets, but now it's just not worth it to try.

Some people say it's so great to be feared in games and so forth, but that is definitely one of the worst things you could ask for. If people have to decide for a card round 1 and they have an option between 7 players, for some reason they usually choose someone on my team (just ask my 4dubs teammates and other multi team partners how our games are going). People will also take the game with a little more pizazz and come after my life. These things are good for competition I would have to say and I am not against them, but it does make it a lot more challenging for 4k+ unless you are playing against complete noobs cough cough GLG cough cough

If u walked into a store for risk and sat down and played some strangers they would have no clue how good you are. For me, I can tell you what moves a player will make based on his skill level now because I'm so accustomed to CC. It's definitely a little unfair playing a former conq whose holding 1500 points. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I am to care about my score obviously I am going to be a cherry picker no matter how much I like blueberries or strawberries. There is no hiding it... I am going to evaluate the choices in front of me and pick my best options to gain points. And you can say I am arrogant in this thinking, but why shouldn't I be concerned with these things? It's the same thing everyone else is doing one way or another.

[iAmCaffeine]

No more standard freestyle speed games then? Jdw will be gutted.

[FreeFalling123]

maybe some private 2.5k+ only

[iAmCaffeine]

maybe some private 2.5k+ only

Ah okay, he'll be happy then.

[FreeFalling123]

yeah we all will be haha just enough to make it a struggle for you

[iAmCaffeine]

yeah we all will be haha just enough to make it a struggle for you

I don't play speed games these days mate. 2500+ is a low benchmark anyway, so if I cared enough I could easily get involved. Not that I'd play in a game that both of you were in anyway.

[betiko]

why is this thread not about bill clinton and lance armstrong anymore? are you guys trolling or something?

[iAmCaffeine]

why is this thread not about bill clinton and lance armstrong anymore? are you guys trolling or something?

Blame Gary.

[FreeFalling123]

it's all right IAC if you are so bad you have to claim everyone who is better than you hceats to beat you than so be it. Obviously I have proven time and tmie again I know how to play these games no matter who is in the game, and even if we had some formula to set each other up for split second decision wins than you might as well give us credit anyways. I would even be impressed if it was possible...... If someone can find me a screen capture device for pretty cheap I'd gladly record myself and show you how I play. If you want to constantly criticize winning players for cheating than so be it. I hope one day your detective skills take you above these petty rule breakers some day.

[Armandolas]

Well, you did cheat didnt you?...or have you been banned for playing that good?

Anyway i guess you had allready many compliments on your gameplay, even from people accusing you from cheating. So you dont have to be angry about it. Take criticism as a good conqueror would

[iAmCaffeine]

Well, you did cheat didnt you?...or have you been banned for playing that good?

Anyway i guess you had allready many compliments on your gameplay, even from people accusing you from cheating. So you dont have to be angry about it. Take criticism as a good conqueror would

Armandolas hit the nail on the head. I have not downplayed or criticised your ability once. I have actually said you're a very good player several times. You're a typical example of people jumping to stupid assumptions. Obviously I don't think everyone above me is cheating, that's ridiculous. I know many players better than me, I happily admit it and I play with them to learn, and I expect to lose points doing so. Why else would I play against josko.ri, prismsaber, hayesez and more?

[FreeFalling123]

all right iAC would you care to clarify what you mean when you say a game with jd and I would be one that you would never join? That is a VERY interesting statement.. .that's not cool. And truly, I could care less how strong my gameplay is, that was directed at fruitcake for calling me arrogant for saying the phrase "my kind," as if I am calling myself something special. I am sorry, but there is something special about making conqueror. If I want to say it's a minority to be on top of 4k+ I very well may. If you want to put my character into question probably you won't want to mix a conversation about the points and how they mix with a skill level. There is no correlation. Anyone can make a point jump as the crown has proven quite well in his ridiculous... yes ridiculous 400 game debacle. As well as perhaps josko's high level point jump, which is way more impressive IMO. It's just too bad that these things are not more skill-like reflectors

[iAmCaffeine]

I'm not going to explain my statement, sorry if that bugs you. I don't agree with what josko did but he is an extremely talented player, no doubt. I also disagree with what TheCrown did, but then he's nothing special either.

I don't care about the cheating you were banned for, not much anyway. I know you're a good player too, but my position doesn't change.

[FreeFalling123]

yeah because you have no proof, and it's ridiculous. Why would you try explaining something that's total speculative bs*?!?

and there you go again

I don't care about the cheating you were banned for,

what other cheating do you keep implying I have done?!?

If you look at the last 10 games we played together I won 6 of them half of those have over 20 players. Do I have 10 different plants in each game to let me win or what man? You tell them what I did because I want to know....

[iAmCaffeine]

yeah because you have no proof, and it's ridiculous. Why would you try explaining something that's total speculative bs*?!?

and there you go again

I don't care about the cheating you were banned for,

what other cheating do you keep implying I have done?!?

If you look at the last 10 games we played together I won 6 of them half of those have over 20 players. Do I have 10 different plants in each game to let me win or what man? You tell them what I did because I want to know....

I haven't accused you of anything, why are you jumping to all these conclusions?

[betiko]

Well, you did cheat didnt you?...or have you been banned for playing that good?

Anyway i guess you had allready many compliments on your gameplay, even from people accusing you from cheating. So you dont have to be angry about it. Take criticism as a good conqueror would

Armandolas hit the nail on the head. I have not downplayed or criticised your ability once. I have actually said you're a very good player several times. You're a typical example of people jumping to stupid assumptions. Obviously I don't think everyone above me is cheating, that's ridiculous. I know many players better than me, I happily admit it and I play with them to learn, and I expect to lose points doing so. Why else would I play against josko.ri, prismsaber, hayesez and more?

The fact is that everybody above you is cheating gary. As the good old Bill Shizzle Clinton used to say;"you can put wings on a pig, but it won t make it an eagle!"