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I'm sorry but yes. King Bieber must die.betiko wrote:you mean that great guy on my avatar????X-Stor-X wrote:less than a month away.
i cannot hide it
the anticipation.....
(sorry if there is a more active thread, i didn't see one right away figured i'd bump this one)Spoiler
for the little c*** monster to be dead ^_^
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
That's what's her name, wrote the Harry Potter series. Rowling, or something like that. KK Rowling I think.strike wolf wrote:Who is the woman up top? I think I recognize her but can't place her definitively.
Assuming this is true, this is why I fucking hate humanity.Gweeedo wrote:The author received numerous death threats, for killing off so many (favorite) characters at one time.
brann, rickion, arya, jon snow all die and there is only sansa left for starks, but she dies in the book after.Army of GOD wrote:Assuming this is true, this is why I fucking hate humanity.Gweeedo wrote:The author received numerous death threats, for killing off so many (favorite) characters at one time.
The beauty of GoT is the fact that no one* is safe. Anyone can die at any moment. Oh you like Ned Stark? WELL TOUGH TITTIES. How about Robb Stark? SUCK A GIANT COCK.
There's no other show I've ever seen that is like it, which I love. They don't try to pander to the audience, they write the story how they god damn want it to be written (or, they make it seem like that).
*ok, maybe Daenerys is untouchable...other than that, I would not be surprised at any other deaths next season.
betiko wrote:brann, rickion, arya, jon snow all die and there is only sansa left for starks, but she dies in the book after.Army of GOD wrote:Assuming this is true, this is why I fucking hate humanity.Gweeedo wrote:The author received numerous death threats, for killing off so many (favorite) characters at one time.
The beauty of GoT is the fact that no one* is safe. Anyone can die at any moment. Oh you like Ned Stark? WELL TOUGH TITTIES. How about Robb Stark? SUCK A GIANT COCK.
There's no other show I've ever seen that is like it, which I love. They don't try to pander to the audience, they write the story how they god damn want it to be written (or, they make it seem like that).
*ok, maybe Daenerys is untouchable...other than that, I would not be surprised at any other deaths next season.
Now I might have to skim book 5. lolTA1LGUNN3R wrote:betiko wrote:brann, rickion, arya, jon snow all die and there is only sansa left for starks, but she dies in the book after.Army of GOD wrote:Assuming this is true, this is why I fucking hate humanity.Gweeedo wrote:The author received numerous death threats, for killing off so many (favorite) characters at one time.
The beauty of GoT is the fact that no one* is safe. Anyone can die at any moment. Oh you like Ned Stark? WELL TOUGH TITTIES. How about Robb Stark? SUCK A GIANT COCK.
There's no other show I've ever seen that is like it, which I love. They don't try to pander to the audience, they write the story how they god damn want it to be written (or, they make it seem like that).
*ok, maybe Daenerys is untouchable...other than that, I would not be surprised at any other deaths next season.Spoiler
Um? How do you get to Jon Snow dying but not know that Bran and Rickon are still alive, as is Arya? Bran is the new greenseer thingy. Rickon is at large with the wildling woman iirc.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:betiko wrote:brann, rickion, arya, jon snow all die and there is only sansa left for starks, but she dies in the book after.Army of GOD wrote:Assuming this is true, this is why I fucking hate humanity.Gweeedo wrote:The author received numerous death threats, for killing off so many (favorite) characters at one time.
The beauty of GoT is the fact that no one* is safe. Anyone can die at any moment. Oh you like Ned Stark? WELL TOUGH TITTIES. How about Robb Stark? SUCK A GIANT COCK.
There's no other show I've ever seen that is like it, which I love. They don't try to pander to the audience, they write the story how they god damn want it to be written (or, they make it seem like that).
*ok, maybe Daenerys is untouchable...other than that, I would not be surprised at any other deaths next season.Spoiler
Um? How do you get to Jon Snow dying but not know that Bran and Rickon are still alive, as is Arya? Bran is the new greenseer thingy. Rickon is at large with the wildling woman iirc.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
strike wolf wrote:TA1LGUNN3R wrote:betiko wrote:brann, rickion, arya, jon snow all die and there is only sansa left for starks, but she dies in the book after.Army of GOD wrote:Assuming this is true, this is why I fucking hate humanity.Gweeedo wrote:The author received numerous death threats, for killing off so many (favorite) characters at one time.
The beauty of GoT is the fact that no one* is safe. Anyone can die at any moment. Oh you like Ned Stark? WELL TOUGH TITTIES. How about Robb Stark? SUCK A GIANT COCK.
There's no other show I've ever seen that is like it, which I love. They don't try to pander to the audience, they write the story how they god damn want it to be written (or, they make it seem like that).
*ok, maybe Daenerys is untouchable...other than that, I would not be surprised at any other deaths next season.Spoiler
Um? How do you get to Jon Snow dying but not know that Bran and Rickon are still alive, as is Arya? Bran is the new greenseer thingy. Rickon is at large with the wildling woman iirc.Spoiler
I don't think he's serious. I am also holding out hope that Jon lives. If the theory that he is Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark's son is true, I want that to be revealed before they actually do away with him. I have come to expect characters dying in Game of Thrones but Jon just feels like there is still more to his story. As far as Daenerys, I get the feeling she has to live for now because she's going to become sort of a villain (or at least not a good character) for the final books.
You filthy pervert.Army of GOD wrote:Spoiler
penis!
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:strike wolf wrote:TA1LGUNN3R wrote:betiko wrote:brann, rickion, arya, jon snow all die and there is only sansa left for starks, but she dies in the book after.Army of GOD wrote:Assuming this is true, this is why I fucking hate humanity.Gweeedo wrote:The author received numerous death threats, for killing off so many (favorite) characters at one time.
The beauty of GoT is the fact that no one* is safe. Anyone can die at any moment. Oh you like Ned Stark? WELL TOUGH TITTIES. How about Robb Stark? SUCK A GIANT COCK.
There's no other show I've ever seen that is like it, which I love. They don't try to pander to the audience, they write the story how they god damn want it to be written (or, they make it seem like that).
*ok, maybe Daenerys is untouchable...other than that, I would not be surprised at any other deaths next season.Spoiler
Um? How do you get to Jon Snow dying but not know that Bran and Rickon are still alive, as is Arya? Bran is the new greenseer thingy. Rickon is at large with the wildling woman iirc.Spoiler
I don't think he's serious. I am also holding out hope that Jon lives. If the theory that he is Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark's son is true, I want that to be revealed before they actually do away with him. I have come to expect characters dying in Game of Thrones but Jon just feels like there is still more to his story. As far as Daenerys, I get the feeling she has to live for now because she's going to become sort of a villain (or at least not a good character) for the final books.-TGSpoiler
I'd be willing to bet money that he survives, in some form at least. He's almost like Daenerys in that he can't be killed. He did get stabbed multiple times pretty brutally, but I kinda have a feeling he'll either come out a little worse for wear, or he'll transfer his spirit over to Ghost. Goddamn wargs. Can't really say what happens after that. Wasn't Lyanna Stark killed before Robert's Rebellion, and in fact that's what caused Ned to join Robert? If so, then I don't really think Jon Snow is a Targaryen.
I could be wrong, of course. Been a while since I read the first coupla books.
Daenerys isn't a villain, she serves as the righteous, idealistic wrath that is otherwise lacking in the moral grayness of Westeros. That's why I hate her.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
strike wolf wrote:Spoiler
Warg power and maybe brought back to his human body by Melissandre seems to be a popular theory that I can get behind. While it would be interesting, I'd be a little upset if he was a wolf for the rest of the books. As far as parentage, there's quite a few options out there. Wyllia (I think), the woman from the Vale who moved to the Riverlands appears to be a popular one but so is Lyanna. Lyanna died towards the end of the war about a few months after Rhaegar was killed at the Trident (Ned and Robert started the war because Rhaegar 'kidnapped" Lyanna) on what was described as a bed of blood. There was also something about an unspoken promise between Lyanna and Ned as she died. The other evidence for it is that "The Tower of Joy" where she was found, was guarded by three of the Kingsguard (including two of their best, Hightower and Arthur Dayne) and they had been there since before Rhaegar ran off to the Trident which would suggest someone more important than the Prince's mistress was in the tower. There have been allusions to Jon Snow looking very much like Lyanna specifically and not so much Ned. Aemon Targaryen refers to Jon as reminding him of his brother Darion and the very fact that Ned would not reveal the name of the mother to anyone is evidence as well. If Jon Snow was actually a Targaryen (possibly legitimized by Rhaegar before he was born), he would have to be kept secret from everyone or his life would have been forfeit under the rule of Robert or Joffrey (Some would say this is why Ned was going to wait for Jon to take the Black before telling him who his real father was. Of course even if Jon is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen, there is only one person living who would definitively know and that is Howland Reed (It is possible that Jojen and Meera were told but there's speculation about whether they are even still alive at this point and it's possible that Jaime Lannister may know as well since he was close to Rhaegar but Jaime has never given any inclination himself that this is the case and even if he knew, he might not tell Jon about it.
As far as Daenerys, I thought so too at first but that's actually the North's (with the exception of Bolton) part in the war to declare moral high ground and Melissandre is the idealist. Daenerys is willing to bend morals to get around certain things (tricking the slavers at Astapor anyone?) but she has plenty of wrath and every indication seems to be that she may very well burn Westeros halfway to the ground to get what she wants. Now a true villain? No there's only three real villains (Littlefinger, Roose Bolton and Euron Greyjoy) in Game of Thrones, the rest are just various shades of gray. I just think that Daenerys appears to be one of the darker shades of gray at this point.
thegreekdog wrote:strike wolf wrote:Spoiler
Warg power and maybe brought back to his human body by Melissandre seems to be a popular theory that I can get behind. While it would be interesting, I'd be a little upset if he was a wolf for the rest of the books. As far as parentage, there's quite a few options out there. Wyllia (I think), the woman from the Vale who moved to the Riverlands appears to be a popular one but so is Lyanna. Lyanna died towards the end of the war about a few months after Rhaegar was killed at the Trident (Ned and Robert started the war because Rhaegar 'kidnapped" Lyanna) on what was described as a bed of blood. There was also something about an unspoken promise between Lyanna and Ned as she died. The other evidence for it is that "The Tower of Joy" where she was found, was guarded by three of the Kingsguard (including two of their best, Hightower and Arthur Dayne) and they had been there since before Rhaegar ran off to the Trident which would suggest someone more important than the Prince's mistress was in the tower. There have been allusions to Jon Snow looking very much like Lyanna specifically and not so much Ned. Aemon Targaryen refers to Jon as reminding him of his brother Darion and the very fact that Ned would not reveal the name of the mother to anyone is evidence as well. If Jon Snow was actually a Targaryen (possibly legitimized by Rhaegar before he was born), he would have to be kept secret from everyone or his life would have been forfeit under the rule of Robert or Joffrey (Some would say this is why Ned was going to wait for Jon to take the Black before telling him who his real father was. Of course even if Jon is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen, there is only one person living who would definitively know and that is Howland Reed (It is possible that Jojen and Meera were told but there's speculation about whether they are even still alive at this point and it's possible that Jaime Lannister may know as well since he was close to Rhaegar but Jaime has never given any inclination himself that this is the case and even if he knew, he might not tell Jon about it.
As far as Daenerys, I thought so too at first but that's actually the North's (with the exception of Bolton) part in the war to declare moral high ground and Melissandre is the idealist. Daenerys is willing to bend morals to get around certain things (tricking the slavers at Astapor anyone?) but she has plenty of wrath and every indication seems to be that she may very well burn Westeros halfway to the ground to get what she wants. Now a true villain? No there's only three real villains (Littlefinger, Roose Bolton and Euron Greyjoy) in Game of Thrones, the rest are just various shades of gray. I just think that Daenerys appears to be one of the darker shades of gray at this point.Spoiler
I don't know that I would call Littlefinger a real villain. He has a rather harsh backstory if you piece things together. I view him as similar to Tyrion.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
Agreed. It's one of the outstanding features of his works.Sackett58 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:thegreekdog wrote:strike wolf wrote:Spoiler
Warg power and maybe brought back to his human body by Melissandre seems to be a popular theory that I can get behind. While it would be interesting, I'd be a little upset if he was a wolf for the rest of the books. As far as parentage, there's quite a few options out there. Wyllia (I think), the woman from the Vale who moved to the Riverlands appears to be a popular one but so is Lyanna. Lyanna died towards the end of the war about a few months after Rhaegar was killed at the Trident (Ned and Robert started the war because Rhaegar 'kidnapped" Lyanna) on what was described as a bed of blood. There was also something about an unspoken promise between Lyanna and Ned as she died. The other evidence for it is that "The Tower of Joy" where she was found, was guarded by three of the Kingsguard (including two of their best, Hightower and Arthur Dayne) and they had been there since before Rhaegar ran off to the Trident which would suggest someone more important than the Prince's mistress was in the tower. There have been allusions to Jon Snow looking very much like Lyanna specifically and not so much Ned. Aemon Targaryen refers to Jon as reminding him of his brother Darion and the very fact that Ned would not reveal the name of the mother to anyone is evidence as well. If Jon Snow was actually a Targaryen (possibly legitimized by Rhaegar before he was born), he would have to be kept secret from everyone or his life would have been forfeit under the rule of Robert or Joffrey (Some would say this is why Ned was going to wait for Jon to take the Black before telling him who his real father was. Of course even if Jon is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen, there is only one person living who would definitively know and that is Howland Reed (It is possible that Jojen and Meera were told but there's speculation about whether they are even still alive at this point and it's possible that Jaime Lannister may know as well since he was close to Rhaegar but Jaime has never given any inclination himself that this is the case and even if he knew, he might not tell Jon about it.
As far as Daenerys, I thought so too at first but that's actually the North's (with the exception of Bolton) part in the war to declare moral high ground and Melissandre is the idealist. Daenerys is willing to bend morals to get around certain things (tricking the slavers at Astapor anyone?) but she has plenty of wrath and every indication seems to be that she may very well burn Westeros halfway to the ground to get what she wants. Now a true villain? No there's only three real villains (Littlefinger, Roose Bolton and Euron Greyjoy) in Game of Thrones, the rest are just various shades of gray. I just think that Daenerys appears to be one of the darker shades of gray at this point.Spoiler
I don't know that I would call Littlefinger a real villain. He has a rather harsh backstory if you piece things together. I view him as similar to Tyrion.@Betiko: that is awesome.Spoiler
I'll admit he has a harsh backstory. Ridiculed by all. Used by Caitlyn Tully. Beaten half to death by Brandon Stark. Etc. Etc. Etc. I'll even accept that he has a delicate temperament that led to many of his actions. Where I call him evil is that I do not see anything well-intentioned about his actions. He wants power. He may want it to gain the respect he never had but he's willing to do whatever it takes. self-oriented motives added onto heinous acts (I mean lets face it. He is responsible for the war.) equate to a villain regardless of how messed up the back story. You may consider that he cares for Sansa but that's part of this psychosis he has going on. Tyrion is a different story. He's more of an anti-villain or something along those lines. He is someone who is always on the wrong side but is well-meaning despite some obvious faults. Similar cruelty in their back stories? Sure but they are not the same type of person.
I'm still trying to figure out Varys (I'm not sure he isn't the most dangerous of all of them by the way). I don't get the impression that he is really a villain but I also find him difficult to read.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
thegreekdog wrote:Spoiler
Baelish is cunning and extremely intelligent. He uses non-nobles where most people ignore them. In my opinion, he's got a pretty good reason for fucking over the Starks and pretty much everyone else. Those are some of the reasons why I'm in favor of King Baelish at the end of the series.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
