CYOC: TDT [6/22] Game Over! FREEDOM!!!

[Nebuchadnezer]

Zivel, only you have a problem with me mentioning it. I mention it so that there's no way a mafia can say "Oh, you changed your meta, you should be lynched". No, they will have to try another tactic this time now that everyone knows I wont be playing my exact self this time around. In a big game like this I should be allowed to switch it up some without it being scummy, like you're calling it now.

You know what Jak? I have a much bigger problem with you saying what amounts to "I am deliberating changing my meta so you can't use it against me" than I do with you playing somewhat differently than in another active game. (Where since you still alive your alignment can't even be known.) Vote Jak You don't get to decide how other people can use your meta to interpret your play in this game.

What I meant is that Rodion is one of the best players here at CC. He's very useful when he is on our side. Sure there's a chance he's scum/3rd party. But it's D1, we can get him another day if he is against us. Losing him D1 is losing one of our top players in this game. Something I'm not comfortable with.

I would say an argument for the reverse could be made. As a skilled player bringing a case against him later in the game would likely be difficult barring some actions implicating him. Trying on Day 1 when standards are lower might be the best way to catch a scum Rodion.

I thought you didn't get a vote, whats this blue voting stuff?

Vote count please.

[edocsil]

@ the people discussing role flavor.

I submitted one role, and got back a flavor that made sense. Not perhaps the one I would have picked, but one that works with the character. This has been true for the last two games as well.

unvote vote jak111

I really dislike the ignore my meta statement, as you really don't change your meta as much as a player would like to think. People are pretty predictable. Then you go on to metagame the flavor of a CYOC game? There is no reason to assume there is anything to learn from the D1 post, and frankly you are just posting for the sake of posting in an attempt to appear townish.

[Nebuchadnezer]

What I meant is that Rodion is one of the best players here at CC. He's very useful when he is on our side. Sure there's a chance he's scum/3rd party. But it's D1, we can get him another day if he is against us. Losing him D1 is losing one of our top players in this game. Something I'm not comfortable with.

I would say an argument for the reverse could be made. As a skilled player bringing a case against him later in the game would likely be difficult barring some actions implicating him. Trying on Day 1 when standards are lower might be the best way to catch a scum Rodion.

First to the part that I didn't quote, leave active games alone. You know better than to discuss them.

Now to the part I did. Rodion is too skilled to kill D1. I am not saying let's let him live until the end, but to kill him D1 with NO proof or anything is just anti-town play. To even suggest doing it, that's not like you if we want to begin bringing metas up already.

I have been gone from CC long enough to be allowed to say that I am going to be changing something up a bit. Everyone does it. Do you want scum to be able to use my meta against me if I did not mention I am switching it around a tad?

Unvote, Vote spiesr

This vote is not because of you against me, it's actually for your comment when I said let Rodion live past D1 at least. That part I do not find to be pro-town. Right now we need the vets working together. If you do not mind a vet dying. Well, I'm all hands for eliminating you if you wish to keep down the mindset of letting Rodion die so easily.

Jak, try to spin this any way you like, I view it as an OMGUS. The fact that you put, what I consider, a very bad excuse to vote spiesr does not take away the OMGUS. But if I were to consider your reason, I would still find it faulty. I do not "keep" people around because they are a "vet" or not. Your statement "Right now we need the vets working together." seems like a bit of a crap statement. The same as if I said, "Right now we need to find scum." It has no meaning. Of course we need to find scum. Of course we ALL need to work together, not just the vets. You made a throw-away statement and tried to use it as your reason for voting spiesr. Thus, I view your vote as OMGUS.

FP'd.

[DoomYoshi]

So right now we have a Plinko wagon forming for an alleged OMGUS on somebody who is voteless. Read that last one if it doesn't make sense. This is a dumb wagon.

@edoc: when he posted the groupings of the strike wolf's train was that also just an attempt to appear townish.

unvote vote no lynch

Right now, the horse game will take a random and I'd much prefer a random than jak. Due to deadline, it's probably getting close to claimtime jak.

[spiesr]

I thought you didn't get a vote, whats this blue voting stuff?

Derp, forgot that I am voteless today. (Apparently so did some other people as well since you are the first to mention it.) There hasn't been a vote count since my "vote" so I guess we shall see if pancakemix counts it. The blue is just me picking a randomish color since the rules didn't require red or anything to be used.

[jak111]

Due to deadline, it's probably getting close to claimtime jak.

Well as stupid as the case against me is. I might as well, always happens D1 for the silliest thing.

I am Aang (from Avatar: The Last Airbender). A town JOAT. Not as powerful as I had hoped it does fit. 4 elements 4 powers, all single use.

For those who don't know my character flavour wise, basically he must maintain balance in the world and defeat the Fire Lord when the Fire Nation invade the other kingdoms.

And no, no one is going to be directing my moves in the night. The claim is what you get and I am not being anyone's puppet.

FP'd by spiesr, yeah pretty sure whoever brought up that you're voting me instead of Rodion forgot about that as well. Another reason why it cannot be OMGUS because technically you're not even voting me. My reason for voting you stood, but it's not worth losing someone over. So Unvote before I forget to do that a second post in a row.

I'm still looking at the last two who hopped onto the wagon though. Nebuch at least has the defense that he brought something original to the table of it. They do not. Not while placing their vote down. Talk is talk until a vote is placed.

[pancakemix]

Vote Count

Virus90 - 1 (sheep)
edoc - 1 (KGB)
Nark - 2 (aage, Tails)
Jak - 3 (Hotshot, Zivel, edoc)

No Lynch - 2 (Jonty, Doom)

With 22 alive it takes 12 to lynch! Deadline is May 15th at 11:59PM ET.

HotShot is currently without a horse.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Vote Count

Virus90 - 1 (sheep)
edoc - 1 (KGB)
Nark - 2 (aage, Tails)
Jak - 3 (Hotshot, Zivel, edoc)

No Lynch - 2 (Jonty, Doom)

With 22 alive it takes 12 to lynch! Deadline is May 15th at 11:59PM ET.

HotShot is currently without a horse.

Pancake...Am I without a vote? unvote just in case.

I do not feel comfortable with the horse game deciding our "lynch" though. It is totally random, and gives us no info at all. I'm okay with the claim we do have as we can test it later. As long as town acts tonight, we should have some info. I hope town is all here and gets their actions in, since we have limited time...don't put off your pms.

[Whatsausage]

@ the people discussing role flavor.

I submitted one role, and got back a flavor that made sense. Not perhaps the one I would have picked, but one that works with the character. This has been true for the last two games as well.

Tsk tsk edoc, not reading the rules
To everyone discussing this, reread the first added rule. The important part: "Based on the data sent to me, I will create a role for one the characters. The player who sent me the character will receive that role with a ->random<- alignment."

Another reason why it cannot be OMGUS because technically you're not even voting me.

You are focusing too much on technicalities jak, that is why people are still nailing you for the OMGUS thing. It's not like OMGUS has a hard definition (you found a definition, but it isn't black and white) with certain things that must be met for it to "count." You don't get to decide if we see your intentions as OMGUS or not, it is up to everyone else to judge from context why you are voting back. And on this technicality, Did you remember that his vote didn't count today? Because your posts didn't seem like it. (I am also guilty of forgetting however) I am not going to vote you because I don't have any reason not to believe your claim, but with the random alignments, I also have no reason to believe the town part.

No one is going along with my "horse-vote" idea So I don't think we will gain much info from that... With so little time left in day, I don't know what much else we can do, so I will vote no-lynch to protect a potential JOAT

[DoomYoshi]

It's not like OMGUS has a hard definition (you found a definition, but it isn't black and white) with certain things that must be met for it to "count."

That's exactly what it's like. We have the glossary for a reason. If it didn't have a hard definition, I could just say that your post towards edoc was OMGUS. It doesn't make any sense, which is why we have definitions. Can you imagine if someone said Hi lol, but they didn't tell you they were using the acronym lol to refer to "I hate your fucking guts you mindless slut".

@ the people discussing role flavor.

I submitted one role, and got back a flavor that made sense. Not perhaps the one I would have picked, but one that works with the character. This has been true for the last two games as well.

Tsk tsk edoc, not reading the rules
To everyone discussing this, reread the first added rule. The important part: "Based on the data sent to me, I will create a role for one the characters. The player who sent me the character will receive that role with a ->random<- alignment."

This doesn't make any sense at all. What are you talking about?

vote whatsausage

[DoomYoshi]

Jak was much more active in that other game, but not really on the first day.

Tsk tsk whatsausage for not reading the rules. Don't talk about other active games. Period.

[spiesr]

I'm okay with the claim we do have as we can test it later. As long as town acts tonight, we should have some info. I hope town is all here and gets their actions in, since we have limited time...don't put off your pms.

"Testing" someone's claim doesn't accomplish much in this game. Since alignment is essentially random he can very well be what he says and still be town.

[kgb007]

@sausage - I never understood the whole horse vote thing, is that for us to indicate who'd we most like to see horseless at the end of the day? I doubt they'd actually listen to the results of that vote though

[HotShot53]

Being this is a completely random game, there isn't much way of proving/disproving a claim on day 1. And as whatsausage says, just because he is a JOAT doesn't mean he's a town JOAT... so he could still be scum for all we know. Although I am still suspicious of him, I will unvote because it's not enough to hang him on for now. At least we got a claim out of it; doesn't look like we're going to get much more done on day 1.

I have no idea why doom voted for whatsausage... whatsausage's post made more sense than doom's post did to me lol.

As to the OMGUS discussion... as I said before, I didn't think Jak's stated reason for voting made any sense, so it looked like an OMGUS vote to me. And just because you say "this isn't an OMGUS vote" doesn't make it so, any more than saying "I'm changing my meta, so you can't question me on this" prevents people from questioning your meta (or your statement).

And finally, for the horse game, looks like we're just going in a circle here... so we're back to
Anarkistsdream, that's my horse!

[pancakemix]

Pancake...Am I without a vote? unvote just in case.

Missed it. Apologies.

[Lootifer]

Since we are getting close to deadline can people start justifying their horse exhanges? At least this way we might be able gain *something* from the death.

will post more tonight when I at home. Phone posting is killing ne right now

[Lootifer]

Ebwop: Horse exchanges* aka blah blah thats my horse

[HotShot53]

Since we are getting close to deadline can people start justifying their horse exhanges? At least this way we might be able gain *something* from the death.

will post more tonight when I at home. Phone posting is killing ne right now

As long as it's more than 24 hours before the deadline (as it currently is), the horse exchange doesn't mean anything as long as they log in during the next 24 hours. So I just gave it to nark again since everyone else already had a second turn at being "it". Obviously if someone gives it to me less than 24 hours before the deadline, I would then come up with a rational as to whom to give it to that might result in their death. Not like there is much to go on though, unfortunately, and I wouldn't be completely surprised if we're all town so we lose no matter who ends up without a horse.

[Anarkistsdream]

I agree with this pretty much 100%. He's been particularly harsh on spiesr for what amounts to a minor infraction (if it was even accurate, which it isn't). I don't really see a reason for that other than trying to inflate a case.

-Tails

Are you seriously saying that is me playing out of character? Hello, maybe you remember me? Jesus, what weak sauce... Nor will I bow down for this crap. Did I vote Spies? Did I push anyone to do anything? No... I commented that I think people not knowing the RULES OF THE GAME THEY ARE PLAYING IS DUMB.... Read that again if you need to... I'll wait. If you disagree, we probably wouldn't get along too well in real life. Because I expect people to know what to expect and how to play.

Since we are getting close to deadline can people start justifying their horse exhanges? At least this way we might be able gain *something* from the death.

will post more tonight when I at home. Phone posting is killing ne right now

As long as it's more than 24 hours before the deadline (as it currently is), the horse exchange doesn't mean anything as long as they log in during the next 24 hours. So I just gave it to nark again since everyone else already had a second turn at being "it". Obviously if someone gives it to me less than 24 hours before the deadline, I would then come up with a rational as to whom to give it to that might result in their death. Not like there is much to go on though, unfortunately, and I wouldn't be completely surprised if we're all town so we lose no matter who ends up without a horse.

That was what I just went back to check... It seems that it has been taken from all of us twice...

Hell, I don't know who should be horseless. In my honest opinion... The person who it should be taken from is the person who is most likely to not post for over 24 hours. That is the safest bet for the rest of the group. *shrug*


Virus90, that's my horse!

[aage]

I agree with this pretty much 100%. He's been particularly harsh on spiesr for what amounts to a minor infraction (if it was even accurate, which it isn't). I don't really see a reason for that other than trying to inflate a case.

-Tails

Are you seriously saying that is me playing out of character? Hello, maybe you remember me? Jesus, what weak sauce... Nor will I bow down for this crap. Did I vote Spies? Did I push anyone to do anything? No... I commented that I think people not knowing the RULES OF THE GAME THEY ARE PLAYING IS DUMB.... Read that again if you need to... I'll wait. If you disagree, we probably wouldn't get along too well in real life. Because I expect people to know what to expect and how to play.

Why don't you respond to my original post while you're at it? Also, ad hominem noted.

[aage]

While I'm responding...

Hell, I don't know who should be horseless. In my honest opinion... The person who it should be taken from is the person who is most likely to not post for over 24 hours. That is the safest bet for the rest of the group. *shrug*

Why do you think that the person who isn't online for 24 hours is most likely to be scum? In my experience, the exact opposite is true.

[Iron Butterfly]

@Lootifer. I do not believe any of the 5 need to rationalize who they give the horse to if the alternative is death.

[DoomYoshi]

I have no idea why doom voted for whatsausage... whatsausage's post made more sense than doom's post did to me lol.

Awesome. Since you understand it so much, you can explain to me exactly which rule edocsil did not read and how his post indicates that.

[Anarkistsdream]

Why don't you respond to my original post while you're at it? Also, ad hominem noted.

Sorry, dude. I don't see what it was you are referring to. Please point it out to me...

While I'm responding...

Hell, I don't know who should be horseless. In my honest opinion... The person who it should be taken from is the person who is most likely to not post for over 24 hours. That is the safest bet for the rest of the group. *shrug*

Why do you think that the person who isn't online for 24 hours is most likely to be scum? In my experience, the exact opposite is true.

When did I say that the person who didn't respond in 24 hours is scum??? *looks around* Oh, I didn't... You put words in my mouth... Again. But I am the one who is scummy... Please. *roll*

And, exactly what IB said... What do you mean, give a reason? The reason is they have a damn horse and I need one to make it TO the night, let alone what may happen DURING the night. We have no idea what this game mechanic is, does, where it comes from, and when or if it will end. All we can do is hope we are the one who doesn't get caught without it.

[Nebuchadnezer]

This horse game is getting us nowhere...