YANKEES LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sfhbballnut · Post by **sfhbballnut** » Thu May 24, 2007 1:57 pm

round three tonight, both in the series and Smoltz vs Glavine, I sense a 200th win in the force.......

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:35 pm

I'd take Smoltz over glavine anyday.

ritz627 · Post by **ritz627** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:58 pm

strike wolf wrote:I'd take Smoltz over glavine anyday.

Who wouldn't?

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:00 pm

Probably Jay.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:04 pm

strike wolf wrote:Probably Jay.

Correctomundo! You win a prize!

Mets take the series.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:05 pm

We'll see. That's all I have to say.

ritz627 · Post by **ritz627** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:12 pm

Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:17 pm

ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.

The team as a whole is better and that will be the decider!

ritz627 · Post by **ritz627** » Thu May 24, 2007 5:42 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.

The team as a whole is better and that will be the decider!

I didn't say that they weren't...but you did say that you would take glavin over smoltz.

GosoxJ · Post by **GosoxJ** » Thu May 24, 2007 7:09 pm

ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.

That's only why Glavine has almost 100 more wins, 1000 more innings pitched, and 9 more shutouts. However Smoltz has 154 more saves, like 450 less walks, 300 more strikeouts, and a .20 lower career ERA.

ritz627 · Post by **ritz627** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:19 pm

GosoxJ wrote:
ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.
That's only why Glavine has almost 100 more wins, 1000 more innings pitched, and 9 more shutouts. However Smoltz has 154 more saves, like 450 less walks, 300 more strikeouts, and a .20 lower career ERA.

Exactly, the reason Smoltz has less wins and less innings, and less shutouts is because he was a closer for most of his career. I guess it is debatable who is more durable, but I still say Smoltz is more versitle and just plain better.

dwightschrute · Post by **dwightschrute** » Thu May 24, 2007 8:33 pm

ritz627 wrote:
GosoxJ wrote:
ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.
That's only why Glavine has almost 100 more wins, 1000 more innings pitched, and 9 more shutouts. However Smoltz has 154 more saves, like 450 less walks, 300 more strikeouts, and a .20 lower career ERA.

Exactly, the reason Smoltz has less wins and less innings, and less shutouts is because he was a closer for most of his career. I guess it is debatable who is more durable, but I still say Smoltz is more versitle and just plain better.

Glavine vs. Smoltz...Smoltz for sure.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:00 pm

ritz627 wrote:
GosoxJ wrote:
ritz627 wrote:Yea, jay, I'm sorry to inform you, but smotlz is not only better skill-wise, he is more versitle and durable. I know you want to say glavine was better b/c he plays for your team, but he's just not.
That's only why Glavine has almost 100 more wins, 1000 more innings pitched, and 9 more shutouts. However Smoltz has 154 more saves, like 450 less walks, 300 more strikeouts, and a .20 lower career ERA.

Exactly, the reason Smoltz has less wins and less innings, and less shutouts is because he was a closer for most of his career. I guess it is debatable who is more durable, but I still say Smoltz is more versitle and just plain better.

Actually Smoltz has been a starter for most of his carreer. The 154 saves came in a three or four year span where we felt we needed him as closer more (That and he had injured his shoulder and didn't have enough endurance for the starter position for a while.) And wins do not define a pitcher, A pitcher can have a 0.01 era through 200 games and come out with 200 no decisions (HIGHLY unlikely but theoretically possible.) Or a pitcher can have a very high era in the same 200 game span and still come out with 90 or more wins. ERA and strike outs are more solid statistics for telling how good a pitcher is (particularly ERA) and in those categories Smoltz has glavine beat.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:21 pm

Atlanta won. Congrats strikewolf. Good Game.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Thu May 24, 2007 10:31 pm

tell that to the team, not the fans. It was a good game and Smoltz pitched 7 solid innings (though the 7th was a little scary, just a little). My only regret about the Braves right now is that they don't play every team the way they play the Mets. If we did we would have a substantial lead in the division right now.

sfhbballnut · Post by **sfhbballnut** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:11 pm

Angels dominate the Bankees in their series, I'm lovin it (yes I know we got swept by the Phillies, but still, bankees losing is a good day)

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sun May 27, 2007 10:26 pm

f*ck the yankees.

riggable · Post by **riggable** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:31 pm

Steinbrenner has issued a statement saying Brian Cashman is "in the hotseat" due to yankees crappy performance.

So god does exist

dominationnation · Post by **dominationnation** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:33 pm

unriggable wrote:f*ck the yankees.

and the mets. and the red sox. and the astros. and the nationals. and the padres. and every other team besides he cardinals

spurgistan · Post by **spurgistan** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:40 am

dominationnation wrote:
unriggable wrote:f*ck the yankees.

and the mets. and the red sox. and the astros. and the nationals. and the padres. and every other team besides he cardinals

but do you really? i find it hard to hate that much, i guess I dislike most teams that aren't the redsox or whitesox, but the only team I really hate (and therefore want to see F*ked) are the new york yankees.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:42 am

dominationnation wrote:
unriggable wrote:f*ck the yankees.

and the mets. and the red sox. and the astros. and the nationals. and the padres. and every other team besides he cardinals

Don't hate because the wrong team won the NL last year! :wink:

sfhbballnut · Post by **sfhbballnut** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:59 pm

rough season so far for the cards, come on bankeees couple more losses to last place!!!!!!!!

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:23 am

I just looked at the standings. NYY are 22-29. What a wonderful day.

sfhbballnut · Post by **sfhbballnut** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:02 pm

under .500 is always good, of course lower is always better

Sackett58 · Post by **Sackett58** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:48 pm

sfhbballnut wrote:under .500 is always good, of course lower is always better

Ah crimeny, I knew it was to good to last.

East
Boston Red Sox 41 22 .651 --
New York Yankees 31 31 .500 9.5
Toronto Blue Jays 30 34 .469 11.5
Tampa Bay Devil Rays 29 33 .468 11.5
Baltimore Orioles 29 35 .453 12.5