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PLAYER57832 wrote:Given that the author of those words was instrumental in destroying religious institutions under his regime... I think you need another "expert" source.
Dukasaur wrote:Horseshit.
God-worshippers have a pre-fab set of rules handed to them on a platter by their god.
Government-worshippers have a pre-fab set of rules handed to them on a platter by their government.
The anarchist atheist is the only truly moral person, because he has to answer questions of morality for himself. At every junction he has to ask himself, "Is this action right or wrong?" and answer that question, reasoning from first principles, with nobody to help.
Or, he could become a nihilist, I suppose. But then John Goodman would beat the piss out of him.
Duckysaur wrote:God-worshippers have a pre-fab set of rules handed to them on a platter by their god.
Government-worshippers have a pre-fab set of rules handed to them on a platter by their government.
mrswdk wrote:Duckysaur wrote:God-worshippers have a pre-fab set of rules handed to them on a platter by their god.
Government-worshippers have a pre-fab set of rules handed to them on a platter by their government.
Rules and morals are not the same thing.
'You are not allowed to kill people' is a rule. 'Killing people is wrong' is a moral.
Army of GOD wrote:this debate is bunk. I already know what's going to happen:
1. I argue that morality is subjective and say that OP is nonsense because of it
2. BBS posts link to Wikipedia article for moral pluralism
3. the religious call the non-religious/moral relativists what's wrong with the world
4. I get bored and leave conversation
5. This thread continues for a few years getting a few hundred pages because you morons will argue for-god-damned-ever
6. this thread slowly disappears because of the Great Decline
asellas1025 wrote:Indeed, religion is made by men and rewritten over the years to better suit the ever evolving world. As far as morals go, that is on the individual, not any institution to say. After all, people are diverse for a reason.
Metsfanmax wrote:As an atheist, I have no morals. Last night, I punched a baby because I felt like it.
chang50 wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:As an atheist, I have no morals. Last night, I punched a baby because I felt like it.
I can better that..my atheism drives me to eat babies.
shickingbrits wrote:chang50 wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:As an atheist, I have no morals. Last night, I punched a baby because I felt like it.
I can better that..my atheism drives me to eat babies.
There's nothing stopping an atheist from doing just that.
shickingbrits wrote:chang50 wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:As an atheist, I have no morals. Last night, I punched a baby because I felt like it.
I can better that..my atheism drives me to eat babies.
There's nothing stopping an atheist from doing just that.
shickingbrits wrote:Actually, there is. Thee without sin may cast the first stone. Jesus, being there without sin, did not cast a stone. The Church may have executed many people and claimed that authority was derived through Jesus, but the example left from which they garnered that authority was the exact opposite.
Luther and others can point to this and other examples and say that the Church is unchristian. Religion is being corrupted by its governing institution. For atheist, their governing rules are incorruptible for they have none. Any act is justified by the desire and ability to accomplish it.
shickingbrits wrote:Well it doesn't really matter to you does it? You will one day ultimately die and nothing you have done or were will exist. There is no difference in doing it or not doing it. Crime and Punishment, it's a good book.
shickingbrits wrote:Why so scared? You are devolving into nothingness anyways and in the 13 billion or so years that stuff has existed, your years are of no significance. No matter what you do, how long you live, what you pass on, how famous you get, it's all just a piece of emptiness in a sea of nothing.
shickingbrits wrote:If I believed one way to live on is through some minor fame perpetuated through an insignificant species, then I would be willing to do things to acquire that fame that I'm not willing to do knowing that I will live on forever anyways. If I believed that I would only live on through my genes, then I would be willing to do anything to enhance their chance of survival.
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