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[BGtheBrain]

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[mtamburini]

@bg, you threatening the head master to kick me out of hogwarts? What grounds? When have I ever sided with evil? I maybe cruel to the students, but they cause messes, they need to be punished and taught a lesson.

lol. The only death eater you think you know is Mtam.

I dont like D1. I thijnk its a random craps shoot. I really dont like when someone basically forces their own claim by playing the way you are playing. I also dont like 3rd party anything. We could argue that you can closely be monitored, but I feel you've really distracted from trying to find scum bc you were so wanting to claim and now you are attempting to take the lead in the game directing us to Mtam.

He never thought I was a death eater he was being a dickhead

[strike wolf]

@Sempai: How would Filch make a good day cop?

He's the caretaker - he essentially polices the castle and is responsible for punishing misbehaving students.

sempai

Strikewolf, how is this different from what I said?

Are you serious right now? Are you trying to say I shouldn't have voted you over this? 1. I don't trust Sempai any more than you. 2. I didn't vote you over having this reasoning. I voted you because you said this:

@Sempai: How would Filch make a good day cop?

I'd say that it would fit the character well, and he doesn't have any magical powers, so... why not?
Now he says he's just a squib, so I don't know if he's denying that role, or...?

Which made absolutely no sense, as you basically said he doesn't have magic so why not be a day cop. Which is why I called it horrible logic.

Then contradicted yourself here:

Storr and Mtam are both likely to jump on someone as scum after one or two posts, regardless of their roles.

Okay degaston, considering your logic makes less sense than Senpai just throwing it out there. How does Filch make a likely day cop?

I have no idea what makes someone a likely day cop or not. Storr made a pretty specific accusation, but when he first made it, I thought it was just random ranting because I had no idea that it was possible for anyone to know someone else's role on the first day. Then he referred back to his original comment, and Tonka suggested that he might be a day cop, so (after looking that up) that made sense to me that Storr could have already found out mtam's role.

Now that Storr appears to be denying any special powers, I don't know what to make of any of this. If he was a day cop, I don't know why he would have used it on mtam so early. If we lynch mtam, and he turns out to be town, then storr would be the obvious next target, so I don't see what he gains from this if he's not sure.

You're claim about him being the care taker only came after I had voted you. Maybe if you had started with the care taker argument I wouldn't be on your case but if you really want to argue character flavor for Filch than day cop doesn't make sense. He pretty much always shows up at night and he doesn't investigate, he catches people. Role blocker would make more character flavor sense.

3. Why did you feel the need to answer a question directed at Sempai to begin with?

As far as Storr, I have my hesitancies about him particularly about his timing for unvoting Mtam but at the same time, we've both suspected mostly the same people.

[Ragian]

As far as I'm aware, Mtam suggested that Storr and raigon are connected (unclear why) and Storr consequently called him a death eater. Not much of a case.

Seriously, if Ragian is too hard, just type Rage or Rag.

Oh and most importantly VOTE STORR

UNVOTE VOTE RAIGAN or whatever the f*ck his name is, Ill just use my ability on storr tonight since I wont be able to get him lynched anyways

[mtamburini]

As far as I'm aware, Mtam suggested that Storr and raigon are connected (unclear why) and Storr consequently called him a death eater. Not much of a case.

Seriously, if Ragian is too hard, just type Rage or Rag.

Oh and most importantly VOTE STORR

UNVOTE VOTE RAIGAN or whatever the f*ck his name is, Ill just use my ability on storr tonight since I wont be able to get him lynched anyways

Dont use anchorman to win me over

[pershy]

I could get behind a Ragian vote....

[dazza2008]

He never thought I was a death eater he was being a dickhead

I think he can't help that

Caught up but just more confused than anything. Too much flavour. I think I even played a harry potter mafia once and i still don't get it.

Storr's play has just been weird to me though. Why claim survivor day 1 just for a laugh? That shit gets you lynched. I need to read back through but I will probably vote Stor just for being a cunt.

[mtamburini]

He never thought I was a death eater he was being a dickhead

I think he can't help that

Caught up but just more confused than anything. Too much flavour. I think I even played a harry potter mafia once and i still don't get it.

Storr's play has just been weird to me though. Why claim survivor day 1 just for a laugh? That shit gets you lynched. I need to read back through but I will probably vote Stor just for being a cunt.

Than you're no use to town and should be lynched tomorrow

[dd515087]

Storr and Mtam are both likely to jump on someone as scum after one or two posts, regardless of their roles.

Okay degaston, considering your logic makes less sense than Senpai just throwing it out there. How does Filch make a likely day cop?

I have no idea what makes someone a likely day cop or not. Storr made a pretty specific accusation, but when he first made it, I thought it was just random ranting because I had no idea that it was possible for anyone to know someone else's role on the first day. Then he referred back to his original comment, and Tonka suggested that he might be a day cop, so (after looking that up) that made sense to me that Storr could have already found out mtam's role.

Now that Storr appears to be denying any special powers, I don't know what to make of any of this. If he was a day cop, I don't know why he would have used it on mtam so early. If we lynch mtam, and he turns out to be town, then storr would be the obvious next target, so I don't see what he gains from this if he's not sure.

IMO Storr would definitely have used his day cop-role on mtam as soon as the game started, however it seems like he is denying any special powers.

I don't believe Storr is a day cop.
He saw something from Mtamb he took as a mafia read, and tried to press it. Look it up, it's a pretty good read actually. If it wasn't for his special posting, he'd probably make it more clear.
Mtamb accused raigian, but waited for others to make the case specific. It wasn't until I asked him about it that mtamb finally presented his case.

But the ' a squib like me has no power' seems unlikely. I thought this was No Vanilla?

Now something else that stands out to me is how easily the wagon on Storr changed to another player, the very one Storr pointed out. Peculiar.

No I don't believe this is "No Vanilla". Also doesn't mtam always jump on someone early and then tunnel in for the rest of the day? I'm not sure I would count that as super-scummy coming from him, definitely suspicious though.

I also don't like how sempai, degaston, endgame all jumped on mtam within 6 posts of each other, just because Storr said so. That's kind of ridiculous and I think there's at least 1 baddie out of those three.

[dazza2008]

He never thought I was a death eater he was being a dickhead

I think he can't help that

Caught up but just more confused than anything. Too much flavour. I think I even played a harry potter mafia once and i still don't get it.

Storr's play has just been weird to me though. Why claim survivor day 1 just for a laugh? That shit gets you lynched. I need to read back through but I will probably vote Stor just for being a cunt.

Than you're no use to town and should be lynched tomorrow

It's then

No use to town because I don't know the flavour or I joked? If either of them is a reason to be lynched I will happily vote myself. I was always under the impression mafia was a game and I play games for fun. If I am wrong then sorry buddy.

[dd515087]

@bg what do you think of the possible death Eaters I've pointed out?

You mean mtam?

As far as I'm aware, Mtam suggested that Storr and raigon are connected (unclear why) and Storr consequently called him a death eater. Not much of a case.

Seriously, if Ragian is too hard, just type Rage or Rag.

Oh and most importantly VOTE STORR

UNVOTE VOTE RAIGAN or whatever the f*ck his name is, Ill just use my ability on storr tonight since I wont be able to get him lynched anyways

And that adds absolutely nothing useful to the conversation? You trying to look active while not adding anything?

unvote, vote Ragian

I could get behind a Ragian vote....

Also not useful. I could get behind one too, but you have to give reasons you can't just say "I would vote for this person if other people do" that's just scummy as hell.

Can I vote for Ragian and pershy somehow?

[dazza2008]

I also don't like how sempai, degaston, endgame all jumped on mtam within 6 posts of each other, just because Storr said so. That's kind of ridiculous and I think there's at least 1 baddie out of those three.

I didn't like it much either but I don't trust the way stor has played here so it's hard to judge them on that. As I was reading through it seemed like stor must have something solid to go on. Turns out he had f*ck all but can yoou really blame others for thinking he had something?

[dd515087]

I also don't like how sempai, degaston, endgame all jumped on mtam within 6 posts of each other, just because Storr said so. That's kind of ridiculous and I think there's at least 1 baddie out of those three.

I didn't like it much either but I don't trust the way stor has played here so it's hard to judge them on that. As I was reading through it seemed like stor must have something solid to go on. Turns out he had f*ck all but can yoou really blame others for thinking he had something?

Yes. From all the games I've played here Storr is always the most active and always pushes people to talk more and give information. Jumping on a bandwagon for no other reason then "Storr said to" makes me think they are trying to avoid the "spotlight" that Storr likes to shine on people in mafia. If I told everyone to vote somebody, with "because I said so" as my only reason, I doubt anyone would do it because I'm not as good at bullying information out of people like Storr is.

[HotShot53]

I also don't like how sempai, degaston, endgame all jumped on mtam within 6 posts of each other, just because Storr said so. That's kind of ridiculous and I think there's at least 1 baddie out of those three.

I didn't like it much either but I don't trust the way stor has played here so it's hard to judge them on that. As I was reading through it seemed like stor must have something solid to go on. Turns out he had f*ck all but can yoou really blame others for thinking he had something?

Storr making stuff up, pretending he's sure about stuff when he's just guessing? Sounds about right for him... at this point I rarely believe anything he says he knows, because 90% of it is made up. Unfortunately, he does this just as much or even more so when town, so it's not a good read on him.

Claiming third party survivor early isn't a half bad strategy, since scum would rather town die, and town would rather mafia get lynched... so he's hoping scum will try to kill power roles instead of him, and town will try to lynch scum instead of him, and he survives. Waiting until being pressured and claiming then, people could go "oh well, let's lynch him anyway, no big loss". Claiming early isn't a strategy anyone else could pull off, but if anyone can, it's storr since he's so active and can bluster his way through just about anything.

Oh and most importantly VOTE STORR

UNVOTE VOTE RAIGAN or whatever the f*ck his name is, Ill just use my ability on storr tonight since I wont be able to get him lynched anyways

Are you claiming something like vig here? What is up with all these unforced claims? And really... language like you used in those couple posts has no place in a game like this... I'm tempted to vote you just for that.

But for now, degaston is still giving me the wrong vibes at this point, so I'll leave my vote there.

fp by dd

[jbfloyd]

I don't think storr decided to come into the game with the strategy of claiming 3rd party survivor and hope to get away with it as scum.

I know it's not helpful to play mod and try to read minds a lot of the time, but I do think that the good guys from the books are likely the town and the bad guys the mafia. I think some fake claims were given to help out. It's a big game and he would have to dig into fairly ancillary characters.

Also in fitting with the flavor, Filch wouldn't be scum. Wasn't the whole point that he-who-shall-not-be-named wanted to maintain the "racial purity" of the wizards, as it were. I don't think Filch can fit in as scum in any way flavor-wise. I can't really see him being anti-town 3rd party either. He might have been a jerk, but he wanted to be a wizard. So, I think, that unless you think storr is lying about his character and is trying some batshit D1 fakeclaim strategy, it's best to move and find actual scum (or cultists or anti-town 3rd parties - I'm totally prepared for like 3+ deaths tonight).

As such, I think taking a look at people who jumped on storr is reasonable. Some candidates have been mentioned that I'll have to go back and check on. Problem is, storr did seem strange with the whole "is it a PR?" thing and may have just gotten some votes that were genuine.

[got tonkaed]

For me its either mtam or degaston. Mtam is pretty straight up saying that they are cool with killing a character who doesn't seem much of a threat and pushes for more information useful to town. Degaston is pretty jump happy and still gives off a pretty scummy vibe. I would agree Sempai also has swung quite easily. Any of those would seem reasonable targets D1 without any additional debate (which hopefully we get plenty of).

[strike wolf]

Considering that I think Dega and Sempai are a likely scum pair I am fine with voting either of them.

[MudPuppy]

I like both charm's and HotShot's take on Storr. He's too interesting and fun to lynch, imo. I don't think he'd make that play as scum... but at the same time, I have no clue what the point of a 3rd party powerless Filch would be. Not really buying a vanilla-flavored caretaker. I think, if he is Filch, he's got some kinda non-magical trick up his sleeve. Though, it could be he's not Filch at all and just spouting crap to make things interesting and get the conversation going; successfully, if that's his game.

[charm]

Jeepers, 5 more pages since this morning. OK, so now I'm caught up. I'm very surprised that Storr is volunteering so early a soft claim. He is usually very talkative, but I can't remeber him giving away so much so early in the game on himself. Usually, he's on everyone else, and especially picking on MTam - which he is doing as usual.

Anyways, I'm not convinced that Zerg-ee is scum. But, I don't trust him one bit. With that said, I'd rather focus on some other players this early on and not waste all my time on Zerg-ee. I may be willing to consider quickly taking Storr to a hard claim and then back-off if we like what he says. FOS Zerg-ee

Tonka has irritated me a bit, so I wouldn't mind putting some focus on him.
MTam is always a trouble maker, no mater what side he is on. But, his style is usually very entertaining. So, he better get to it or he will get a FOS.
Strike Wolf seems to be helpful as usual with good reasoning...so I'd like to watch him closer, he is probably a student, or teacher.
Seems there are quite a few being quiet.

FP'd by Mudd and Strike

[mtamburini]

He never thought I was a death eater he was being a dickhead

I think he can't help that

Caught up but just more confused than anything. Too much flavour. I think I even played a harry potter mafia once and i still don't get it.

Storr's play has just been weird to me though. Why claim survivor day 1 just for a laugh? That shit gets you lynched. I need to read back through but I will probably vote Stor just for being a cunt.

Than you're no use to town and should be lynched tomorrow

It's then

No use to town because I don't know the flavour or I joked? If either of them is a reason to be lynched I will happily vote myself. I was always under the impression mafia was a game and I play games for fun. If I am wrong then sorry buddy.

You joked about wanting to vote for storr?

[mtamburini]

For me its either mtam or degaston. Mtam is pretty straight up saying that they are cool with killing a character who doesn't seem much of a threat and pushes for more information useful to town. Degaston is pretty jump happy and still gives off a pretty scummy vibe. I would agree Sempai also has swung quite easily. Any of those would seem reasonable targets D1 without any additional debate (which hopefully we get plenty of).

Do you even read or are you just sheeping people, why is it between me and deg?

[mtamburini]

I like both charm's and HotShot's take on Storr. He's too interesting and fun to lynch, imo. I don't think he'd make that play as scum... but at the same time, I have no clue what the point of a 3rd party powerless Filch would be. Not really buying a vanilla-flavored caretaker. I think, if he is Filch, he's got some kinda non-magical trick up his sleeve. Though, it could be he's not Filch at all and just spouting crap to make things interesting and get the conversation going; successfully, if that's his game.

Well find out in the night phase then wont we what storr claims to be

[mtamburini]

Jeepers, 5 more pages since this morning. OK, so now I'm caught up. I'm very surprised that Storr is volunteering so early a soft claim. He is usually very talkative, but I can't remeber him giving away so much so early in the game on himself. Usually, he's on everyone else, and especially picking on MTam - which he is doing as usual.

Anyways, I'm not convinced that Zerg-ee is scum. But, I don't trust him one bit. With that said, I'd rather focus on some other players this early on and not waste all my time on Zerg-ee. I may be willing to consider quickly taking Storr to a hard claim and then back-off if we like what he says. FOS Zerg-ee

Tonka has irritated me a bit, so I wouldn't mind putting some focus on him.
MTam is always a trouble maker, no mater what side he is on. But, his style is usually very entertaining. So, he better get to it or he will get a FOS.
Strike Wolf seems to be helpful as usual with good reasoning...so I'd like to watch him closer, he is probably a student, or teacher.
Seems there are quite a few being quiet.

FP'd by Mudd and Strike

Charm is most likely town, shes not super town like Id expect her to be in games but wont be my focus today. What do you think of the perosn i am voting for

[Streaker]

Considering that I think Dega and Sempai are a likely scum pair I am fine with voting either of them.

Wouldn't be surprised if they are. I already called out how jump-happy they were. First all wagon Storr and when Storr points to Mtamb they quickly switch like he is their leader.

If I have to choose between them I'd say Sempai:

I had assumed that as storr was posting about students over and over it may have outed him as some faculty role, but having said that, it has not been consistent since then.

He may be Filch, the caretaker - not technically faculty, but an "adult." Filch's a Squib (meaning he can't do magic), so if Storr is Filch, he has either no power role or a very weak one. In either case, he could conceivably be town or scum, though I'd think he'd be more likely to be town.

sempai

His first post regarding Storr, calling him likely town.

The cult of the Dursleys?!?!? LMAO, classic. What, did someone threaten to make them join or their donuts would be taken away? Oh ya, if there is no couch in the cult lounge you can forget about them too, I think standing is against the uncle's religious belief....lol. Best thing I've read in the thread so far......please continue the crazy day one antics.

Are you even in this game?

He's a reserve - but I didn't realize that when I voted for him.
In case anyone was counting, UNVOTE

Not going to vote Storr just yet - I don't think Filch would be scum. 3rd party, most likely - and he may be of some use to town somehow later on.
I don't think I ever heard Filch raise his voice, though. Hmmm.

sempai

Second post regarding Storr, again calling out he thinks Storr is not scum and even stating he could be of use later on.

The death Eaters would string me up for being a Squib

Not immediately - they would probably try to use your knowledge of the castle before (in the words they would use) disposing of you.

That said, given how readily (even gleefully) Filch helped Umbridge in Book 5, he is much more likely to lean anti-town than pro-town.
Maybe we should get him out of the way before he can do any damage.

VOTE STORR

sempai

His next post is the complete opposite of before. Now stating he is much more likely anti town. Big turn-around in 1 post. Also, doing damage opposite to being of use to town later on. Not explaining why the sudden shift in thought. In a later post he explains he is afraid of Storr being recruited. If we are gonna play this game to lynch all possible recruitment targets, well no.

Then in a follow up post Sempai states he does NOT believe Storr to be scum, but still wants to get him out of the way... Seriously a D1 third party lynch does NOT help us.

And then as someone points out that Storr has Mtamb read as scum, all of a sudden Sempai follows his lead?

Now I fully agree on his last statement that Storr should not be forgotten, but there are other ways of dealing with 3rd party then a D1 lynch.

Unvote, vote Sempai

[Ragian]

@bg what do you think of the possible death Eaters I've pointed out?

You mean mtam?

As far as I'm aware, Mtam suggested that Storr and raigon are connected (unclear why) and Storr consequently called him a death eater. Not much of a case.

Seriously, if Ragian is too hard, just type Rage or Rag.

Oh and most importantly VOTE STORR

UNVOTE VOTE RAIGAN or whatever the f*ck his name is, Ill just use my ability on storr tonight since I wont be able to get him lynched anyways

And that adds absolutely nothing useful to the conversation? You trying to look active while not adding anything?

unvote, vote Ragian

No, I was making a comment on how it escalated quickly. Language-wise, not voting-wise. Wasn't that clear? What do you want me to add? Do you know why I'm being pressured? Is it because I know f*ck all about Harry Potter or because I was trying to work out what Stor was saying when everyone jumped on him? There's really no defence against any of it. If you think that's worthy of your vote, then go on.