Matrix6 Mafia Game [Game Over - TOWN Wins!]

[NoSurvivors]

Also madmitch, how do you feel about a mass claim? I'm awaiting feedback from tamb/streaker because they're more experienced than I, however I feel it's needed so we narrow the lynch down from 5 to 3 (assuming BM is town and hopefully not a PR).

I'm running the numbers on how a massclaim would work out given that there was no night kill. Its a very unique scenario given that 4 things couldve happened last night, for the sake of simplicity I might just name them all, but Im hesistant and am thinking about just massclaiming first before I go over the things that couldve happened.

Can you give your reasons for reading BM as town again? I feel like they are the same as mine but just want to make sure.

Because of his rant that the mod replied to, basically.

[Marashu]

Daily Vote Count:
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Deadline is Tuesday, May 26.
6 players, 4 votes to lynch.

[NoSurvivors]

I'd like to hear claims from everyone today, I will claim too but not first. I want to hear everyone out if everyone is comfortable with that. I'd like to hear endgame and madmitch first though

[Streaker]

I'd like to hear claims from everyone today, I will claim too but not first. I want to hear everyone out if everyone is comfortable with that. I'd like to hear endgame and madmitch first though

And why would you be against claiming first? Waiting to see 'what is left' after all town has claimed?

[Endgame422]

Im a vanilla townie.
Now streaker think about what i said.
Im attempting to protect our investigative roles here if they exist.(i thinks odds are 2/4)
Think about it,it makes sense for town. If the doc/jailkeeper claims they definetly get murdered tonight.
That gives a cop/watcher 1 more investigation. Which could be crucial tomorrow.
Making everyone claim just clears things up for for the mafia at night.
I have no reason to hide my vanillaness(except now scum can ignore me and focus on someone else whos more likely to be a PR)
If you guys want to push everyone else for claims thats on you.
It just seems like it helps scum as much as town,especially when the people pushing wont claim themselves.

[NoSurvivors]

I'd like to hear claims from everyone today, I will claim too but not first. I want to hear everyone out if everyone is comfortable with that. I'd like to hear endgame and madmitch first though

And why would you be against claiming first? Waiting to see 'what is left' after all town has claimed?

I have a power role. Fine I'll go first. I am town jailkeeper, each night I simultaneously protect and roleblocker a player. N1 I visited endgame and N2 I visited you, and there was no kill N2 which is why I am interested in you.

Now the reason I wanted not to go first was because I know someone might come behind me, claim I'm lying and then you will lynch me and game over. Just calling it now.

[NoSurvivors]

I wanted to try and catch scum if they tried claiming a PR

[NoSurvivors]

I'd like to hear claims from everyone today, I will claim too but not first. I want to hear everyone out if everyone is comfortable with that. I'd like to hear endgame and madmitch first though

And why would you be against claiming first? Waiting to see 'what is left' after all town has claimed?

Claim please.

[NoSurvivors]

Im a vanilla townie.
Now streaker think about what i said.
Im attempting to protect our investigative roles here if they exist.(i thinks odds are 2/4)
Think about it,it makes sense for town. If the doc/jailkeeper claims they definetly get murdered tonight.
That gives a cop/watcher 1 more investigation. Which could be crucial tomorrow.
Making everyone claim just clears things up for for the mafia at night.
I have no reason to hide my vanillaness(except now scum can ignore me and focus on someone else whos more likely to be a PR)
If you guys want to push everyone else for claims thats on you.
It just seems like it helps scum as much as town,especially when the people pushing wont claim themselves.

But now, there are 2 PRs and so instead of a 2 in 5 shot we have a 2 in 3 shot (if BM isn't the other PR). We have to hit scum today, and if everyone claims I like our odds.

[NoSurvivors]

I'd like to hear claims from everyone today, I will claim too but not first. I want to hear everyone out if everyone is comfortable with that. I'd like to hear endgame and madmitch first though

And why would you be against claiming first? Waiting to see 'what is left' after all town has claimed?

First time I've played jailkeeper and I hate the not knowing if you're who was targeted or if you're scum.. I prefer more definitive roles.

My first thought was madmitch said you and him were "for sure town". Which is why I said I think you two could be scum buddies. However my thinking (deeper thinking) is that I said that two of you, endgame and mtamb are scum buddies, and it would be stupid for them to kill you in the night because in my eyes then they would be town's target likely. Of course, there could be a BP townie and scum hit them and I'm totally off.

n1 I was stuck between storr/end/mtamb but I thought end was likely scum so there was a 50/50 that I'd stop the kill (I was set on him).

So streaker, what's your claim?

[Endgame422]

Assuming NoSs claim is true we have 50/50 shot at having a BP townie. If BP townie claims, NoS is most likely telling the truth, although jailkeeper is the best fakeclaim because it could be the only PR(Matrix line 1) hoping our other PRs can clear this up.
If anyone is doc/cop/watcher/real jailkeeper you know NoS is lying because we can not have both.
If a BP townie comes forward(with their vest intact) ill be very interested in streaker and trusting of NoS
If a BP townie comes out with a shot vest that will fairly well clear NoS.(and streaker to a lesser extent)
Why would scum target streaker and not someone who was not on yesterdays mislynch of storr?(mtam/black)
If a doc/cop/watcher/jailer comes forward we lynch either him or NoS as 1 of them is lying.
FPed by NoS who seems to agree about the BP towny making/breaking the deal with streaker.

[madmitch]

I am a bulletproof townie, so shoot away

[Endgame422]

I am a bulletproof townie, so shoot away

This sounds like your bullerproof and have not been shot at yet.
Correct?
If so who gets lynched?
Basically me/streaker/mtam as i doubt youll get 4 votes for black and you can basically confirm NoS if noone counter claims(and your telling the truth).
2/3 odds of hitting scum for you.
Assuming everything is true(i believe it so far) it has to be streaker/mtam.
NoS and mitch are cleared unless we have a counter claim and that leaves me black streaker mtam.
Black is basically cleared by NoS reading him townie,and storr and wing died defending him.
Am i missing something here or is a counterclaim the only thing could change things?
We basically all need to be together here and if noone counters ill just sheep vote with the consensus of team confirmed town.

[NoSurvivors]

Mtamb or streaker have 2 options (one of them is town at least):

Claim VT
Claim PR and try to oust me.

I wanted streaker to claim before the other PR (if Mitch is telling the truth which I think I believe).

In my mind I want to hear what they claim before I make my vote. If one of them claims a power role other than BP my vote is on them because they're lying and if you lynch me today then town is dead as there is nothing to stop a NK.

Out of the 3 people I have no idea who to lunch honestly yet. If they both claim VT then I guess it's just a guess...

[NoSurvivors]

Endgame one of them claiming a PR does not mean they are telling the truth. The fact that you are so disbelieving if my claim (any other pr claim means nos is lying) looks to me like you're telling streak of mtamb "hey man look you need to counterclaim nos so we can lynch him" . Can't tell though just yet

[Endgame422]

Any other claim means someone is a liar. Not specifically you NoS.
And a cop/doc claim would make mitch a liar as well.
Im thinking scum double fakeclaiming is pretty unlikely.
Im inclined to believe you NoS unless someone claims jailer as well.
We'll see what they say i suppose.

[mtamburini]

Im the bullet proof and my vest was hit last night we can lynch madmitch

[mtamburini]

Endgame one of them claiming a PR does not mean they are telling the truth. The fact that you are so disbelieving if my claim (any other pr claim means nos is lying) looks to me like you're telling streak of mtamb "hey man look you need to counterclaim nos so we can lynch him" . Can't tell though just yet

The quick hammer on Storr yesterday is very telling where the scum are

[mtamburini]

Omg no one is online right now f*ck all of you

[mtamburini]

I retract my claim of bulletproof, the play I was going for would have never worked since scum know that you either saved streaker or streaker sent the kill so in either case I would have never been targeted.

[NoSurvivors]

I retract my claim of bulletproof, the play I was going for would have never worked since scum know that you either saved streaker or streaker sent the kill so in either case I would have never been targeted.

I'm confused

[NoSurvivors]

Does it tell you when your vest gets hit?

[mtamburini]

Does it tell you when your vest gets hit?

Im not the BP nor do I know if the mod is telling the BP if they got hit or not. In games that I have played/moded of this version the mod has told the BP when a bullet has hit there vest. Having said that Im awaiting a PM from him about some mechanics before I continue on.

Now with regards to you jailing streaker however, I am having a hard time ever seeing viewing him as town in this situation. Ive TR you and madmitch from day 1 and I too agree with you on the the BM scenario.

I would however be the strongest for lynching End today as I think even if Mitch is somehow fake (which I do not think he is) end is always mafia with streaker or BM at this point.

I think ive been playing this game assuming BM and End were the same person which is becoming clearer now because I think I was townreading End for the reasons you read BM for the comment. I have to go back and look

[NoSurvivors]

Does it tell you when your vest gets hit?

Im not the BP nor do I know if the mod is telling the BP if they got hit or not. In games that I have played/moded of this version the mod has told the BP when a bullet has hit there vest. Having said that Im awaiting a PM from him about some mechanics before I continue on.

Now with regards to you jailing streaker however, I am having a hard time ever seeing viewing him as town in this situation. Ive TR you and madmitch from day 1 and I too agree with you on the the BM scenario.

I would however be the strongest for lynching End today as I think even if Mitch is somehow fake (which I do not think he is) end is always mafia with streaker or BM at this point.

I think ive been playing this game assuming BM and End were the same person which is becoming clearer now because I think I was townreading End for the reasons you read BM for the comment. I have to go back and look

Why would you counter MM's claim then and try to lynch him? You do know that if we lynch town today we are almost garunteed screwed unless I miracle jail the right scum right?

[NoSurvivors]

Also streaker and blackmetal I want your claims please.