I think I'm understanding what lead up to mets's rolefishing accusation of wing differently than aage. As several have pointed out, (close to) everyone understood who madmitch is and wing was just getting madmitch to focus his energy on playing the game than playing the flavour and fogging up the game. Mets's accusation of wing is jumping on the easiest thing next to picking out a random inactive person in my opinion. It's scummy because it's easy to come across as towny because you're "making a case" if you ask me.
I do agree with aage, however, that it's weird that charm has just disapperead. No way she has a PR since she has already posted today.
you guys asked for it you shall get it, like my soft claim said earlier. If any of you know Harry Potter, I am Hermione Granger, I am able to cast "Protego" whatever that means... I am able to protect someone each night. Simple as that, go ahead and lynch me, if you don't believe it. Oh and as far as last night I guess I missed where mtam said he couldn't be night killed so I tried protecting him. It's either a lynch on me today or I get nightkilled with such a powerful role, one will happen.
*Pixar* wrote:you guys asked for it you shall get it, like my soft claim said earlier. If any of you know Harry Potter, I am Hermione Granger, I am able to cast "Protego" whatever that means... I am able to protect someone each night. Simple as that, go ahead and lynch me, if you don't believe it. Oh and as far as last night I guess I missed where mtam said he couldn't be night killed so I tried protecting him. It's either a lynch on me today or I get nightkilled with such a powerful role, one will happen.
Ur at L-2, about to be lynched.
Answer me this please:
Why did you choose to Nightprotect a player you think is scum?
*Pixar* wrote:you guys asked for it you shall get it, like my soft claim said earlier. If any of you know Harry Potter, I am Hermione Granger, I am able to cast "Protego" whatever that means... I am able to protect someone each night. Simple as that, go ahead and lynch me, if you don't believe it. Oh and as far as last night I guess I missed where mtam said he couldn't be night killed so I tried protecting him. It's either a lynch on me today or I get nightkilled with such a powerful role, one will happen.
Ur at L-2, about to be lynched.
Answer me this please:
Why did you choose to Nightprotect a player you think is scum?
Lol.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
BAH, all these good discussions happening now and a claim. No time at moment to post and reread last 4 pages but can later tonight. I'm hoping a L-2 people aren't pouncing on Pix after the claim.
strike wolf wrote:By the way, I havent voted Pixar. Unless someone is controlling my vote somehow and I am unaware of this the vote count is inaccurate.
I think he must have put your vote there instead of Storr's. It still shows Storr on Mets. I saw that, (the incorrect vote for Storr) and was afraid that we had actually lynched pixar by mistake.
Storr, how about we get pixar to answer some questions before we rush over to mets, okay?
*Pixar* wrote:actually what do you guys think of mtam claiming Hairy Potter but the scum not targetting him? kind of fishy...
Pixar explain this post. As a doc you couldnt have known that Scum didnt try to target Mtam last night. They could have tried to kill him for all you know.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
*Pixar* wrote:actually what do you guys think of mtam claiming Hairy Potter but the scum not targetting him? kind of fishy...
Pixar explain this post. As a doc you couldnt have known that Scum didnt try to target Mtam last night. They could have tried to kill him for all you know.
Actually, it seems like he's claiming that he protected Mtam, but he's surprised that Mtam didn't die?
Ragian wrote:I do agree with aage, however, that it's weird that charm has just disapperead. No way she has a PR since she has already posted today.
Looks like the post restriction is pretty much confirmed. She got her vote in silently.
How can charm vote and post and still claim that she is of no use today? How is that a PR when she has already posted? I'm actually asking this.
re: Pix. There are some weird contradictions, but it's a very powerful claim.
@Pix, why are you saying D2 that you don't believe that mtam is HP because he was not targeted N1? 1) How do you know he wasn't targeted? 2) Why would that make his claim fake?
I kinda get why he protected mtam (from Pix's p.o.v. not knowing that the protection is futile) and I actually think it's kinda good form to distance yourself from whoever you're protecting in order to have some element of surprise (just like I think it's good form not to be the most investigative player D1 if you're the cop for instance). I don't know if it works when you haven't claim, but still...
*Pixar* wrote:If there is a possible 2 Night Kills for the scum I might be the reason why there was only one kill last night, Will claim if need be.
Continues with a half ass claim, much like charm did. If you have something to claim that is beneficial to town, do so. This is just confusing now and wastes time to interrogate to get the needed information. Never a town move.
*Pixar* wrote:So just a clairification, MTAM cannot be night killed? seems odd to me...
And AGAIN pushing for information on Mtamb... This also NEVER helps town...
Obviously Pixar is not the most inactive in number of posts, but he did nothing but push Mtam this day (fishing for information, not providing an actual case which you could do with Mtamb play on D1).
I also really really dislike Wing defending him:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:O
@Pixar - The answer to that question is more beneficial to mafia than town, so lets leave it as an unknown and let them be confused. Also I now believe you to be town because of why you asked the question. I can explain that if anyone wants, but I dont see the benefit.
I can never see why he would be town based on his posts. Never. Obviously I must be missing something, so maybe it's time you can explain it?
I'd only read these two posts when I made that comment, subsequently read the previous ones and understand the case against Pixar now. The way I saw it:
Option A - Mafia trying to find out the truth. They could have just shot Mtam and would have a good idea of the answer....
Option B - Some form of protective role as per the soft claim, and had spent the entire nightphase getting confused as to whether he should use it on Mtam or not, and now quite selfishly wants to know if he should continue to use his ability on Mtam. This is why I want to know who he targetted last night. He didnt answer that question. Even as Town, this still wouldnt be clever play, though many have said he is inexperienced.
@Strike V2.0 - Madmitch is very new, and tends to play a lot of OMGUS votes. I'd defend him, but I havent yet worked out a way to tell if he is scum. My only guess would be if he never shows up on mafia lynches, but thats a long shot even then. Very Very hard to read. Likely to be as unhelpful to mafia as he is to town. I find him amusing though.
I did post this prior to his claim. Having read all Pixar's posts since I am not sure he is a confused townie, but it is a possibility.
As a side, I am pretty sure Charm said she couldnt vote today.... you dont get a free pass for claiming a charm and then breaking conditions of said charm....
charm wrote:I would assume that Minerva had a wand too. I also wonder if mafia kills someone does that mean they have the wand or does the wand disappear/die with the character??
It may be nothing, or something, I don't know and not that it matters since I don't count today! So, don't bother with paying any attention to me if you don't want to.
Quit the cryptographic talk please. Either you have usefull information and you tell us, or you were hit with something you don't want to share and then you shouldn't have brought it up.
You don't count today? Are you hit with a spell that stops you from making reads?
I believe that I have no ability to comment today! Sorry, back at ya on Day 3! Over and out!!
This is the post, doesnt specifically say Charm cant vote. Interesting