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i'm trying very hard to find mafia, to accuse me of pushing only selfishly is absurd. If you are in my position, regardless of alignment your going to push for a skill/mets over yourself. I can't help that my 2 of my 3 cases today lead to claims/partial claims.got tonkaed wrote:Storr pushing this case from selfish reasons makes me less likely to want to vote for it to be honest.
So his first post of content. Lists 5 unexplained town reads. Yes unexplained. Lists 3 mafia reads, all un explained (save for 1 sentence remark on tamb, which isn't actually a read) . Like to point out how he feels that they are decent reads.skillfusniper33 wrote:Yes there are other options that make him not a VT, but I won't go into them.degaston wrote:So do you think we need someone else to claim so you can vote for them?got tonkaed wrote:Not voting for Sempai today...
We have Storr/Filch claiming no powers.
Mtam claiming some kind of power that will presumably lead to more information on D2.
And now Sempai who made an unforced claim of "town with no night power" Can that be something other than VT? If he is scum, has he been given a cover name? Does that fact that he didn't give one mean that he doesn't have one and is afraid to make a claim on a name that is being used?
As I've said before, I'm generally in favor of getting more input from the lurkers because I think that will help things become more clear on D2, but I don't know the standard for when you have enough claims and decide that you have to pick one of them to vote for, or else "no lynch". I agree that the reasoning for the attention on sempai was pretty weak when it started, but in my first game, an unforced claim turned out to be a tell by a nervous/inexperienced scum.
So far I have some pretty decent reads on most active players I think. But everything could change, and everything is based off my gut feeling from posts.
Townish Vibes: Tonka, strike, streaker, deg, Ragian,
Antitown (mafia and 3rd party): Storr, mtam, charm.
All the other players are up in the air for me right now.
As for Sempi I think he is jumpy and been following others weak cases early, but I don't particularly see him as a huge threat to town right now, if this continues into day 2/3 I would say more pressure needs to be applied.
My largest scum tell is on mtam and how he is playing this game. To me this actually feels not like a mafia role, but as a cult leader role on his part. By him saying if he is lying he will be dead. If I remember correctly colts can't recruit mafia.
I diffidently need to go back and re-read since I took all this in pretty fast
fped by about 6 people.
As for the number of claims on day 1 it depends on the size of the game, I would say that going up to about 4 in this game would be reasonable.
When you (other towns) Vote someone that you believe is mafia, do you ever question yourself or the case? The questioning of the case in itself damns any progress you might have with the case. If you can't take it seriously how can the rest of town. Doing what skill did draws less attention.Vote Madmitch, even though nothing will likely come of this case.
Apathetic attitude from someone thats been largely inactive to the proceedings of today. Please check his posts regarding pixar. The push on him took several days, and he has quoted several people who talk about pixar, but only to talk just about himself. He avoided lime light today on purpose. (He does eventually give a non committal remark to pix, not commenting on alignment)Just had this game to the mafia then. Lets see if I can go build a case to save my ass.
Fishing for Role information.Vote Mtam.
I would really like to hear more about the ability you have and are planning on using tonight.
So he is called out, and what happens he responds in a very polite manner to one of his 3 scum reads. This is 4 days after his post of 5 unexplained town reads and 3 unexplained mafia reads. He made one post since then, and that was a vote to wagon onto mtamb. (As well to comment to t a mistake) He down plays his lack of activity, because of bickering about mtambs play. SO why had he never commented on it? Seems like he was content letting it happen, and is choosing NOW to comment on it after the push is losing stream.skillfusniper33 wrote:I am sorry I haven't said much, but what is to say when all we had for most of the last 10-15 pages is bickering between people about mtams play. I feel like a lot of people have let their emotions get envolved with this game, and taken them as personal attacks.StorrZerg wrote:What about skillful seems very under the radar
I also feel like I had explained my vote well enough for the mtam case, and to be honest not wanting to dive into the bickering at end up having things become personal attacks against my own logic because people were upset. I thought mtam was playing poorly early, but now that his role is revealed I actually understand his gameplay.
Unvote
I think another person that might be worth looking at is mudpuppy, almost every post he has made has been very little contribution to the game itself, such as his previous postTo me this is a pretty big scum tell, it makes you look like you are involved because when people are looking back through the thread your name comes up often, and people pass by to continue the search for a specific post. But when your posts are basically purely sarcasm it doesn't help any case.MudPuppy wrote:Strongest scum-tell of D1.jbfloyd wrote:....I'd sooner watch Fox News.
Another note: why I am never active when everyone else seems to be is because it is between 2-5 AM where I am, so I always get the tail end of the days conversation.
Honestly this is weird, why would you expect to be investigated. If skill is mafia, its possible they tracked/did something with deg so they knew where he went. Thus knowing SKill had to claim no wand.Thanks, I was hoping you had investigated me last night
Interesting flavor talk, considering if he is what he says he is, he should expect some mafia to be wandless. Other wise deg finding no wand would auto mean town. That doesn't sound right. To me it sounds like he all ready knows he has been investigated by deg.skillfusniper33 wrote:If you are looking only on flavor, Voldemort wouldn't allow anyone to join him if they weren't deemed a pure blood, and thus be able to use magic, and with most of his members being wizards I would assume all of them would have a wand, even if they had a passive role. If deg were to investigate a wizard then they would have a wand on them at all times, even if it wasn't necessary for their role, since the wand is the main way that magic is used in this series.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Thinking about it, Minerva wouldnt have needed a wand to be a watcher. She could just switch to tabby cat form and watch unnoticed.
I dont like the idea of killers using non-wand weapons. Doesnt fit with the flavour. I dont know mafia roles well enough to comment on whether there are going to be non-wand roles in mafia.
Strange comment to make. "Can't let storr/mtamb go" Only to, have himself "not let go of storr"The only people who seem to get any attention are the people who overreact to everything, hence why no one takes streaker seriously in this game, and no one seems to comment on his case. That is also why storr and mtam got all the attention day 1, they were the biggest asses in the game to start, hence why people can't let them go.
StorrZerg wrote:Why you should be keeping me alive and be lynching skill. Few bullet points into Large wall of text, commenting on his quotes.
2. I'm actively scum hunting - Please give us your current player reads before your potential death later this morning
4. I'm not mafia. I'm 3rd party survivor. Something claimed day 1. Its pretty established by at least more than half believe this claim fully, and a few more to the point that there is no point to lynch me since you will not be killing mafia. I believe your claim... but it's not confirmed. While your death would likely not kill Mafia, it would likely save a Townie.
Why should skill be lynched. (all Skill quotes)
4. he has been checked to see if he has a wand. His death can confirm degs power, or catch a second mafia. I get that you're trying to save yourself but please stop making arguments you know to be untrue. His death confirms nothing about deg since a Scum Deg with no wand check basically just repeated Skill's claim in the form of a confirmation. You know better and your twisting of reality into a self-serving, false argument is scummy
5. All claims have been human so far, he is the odd one. Another big stretch here... clearly Dobby is a valid humanoid character in this game.
Please respond to points on my skill case.got tonkaed wrote:I dont disagree with a single thing Storr has said in regards to him trying. Yet we are going to end day 2 with a townie lynch if we don't lynch Storr in my opinion.
Vote Storr
The chances that neither me nor Mets will be investigated for this from a cop or other role are pretty slim.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Here is your choice, push Mets for a claim, or get Strike to explain himself.
I am not happy to pursue any other option as I really really dont like the way Mets has played so far. (You might have worked that out by now)
We can argue this on D3, lets concentrate on D2 for now.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
StorrZerg wrote: i find no joy in this
I considered explicitly asking for a cop check if someone wouldnt mind, but decided against. I would appreciate it.strike wolf wrote:The chances that neither me nor Mets will be investigated for this from a cop or other role are pretty slim.
EBWOP Unvote Vote Skills Sorry I failed to bold and colour yesterday.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Unvote Vote Skills
Skills hasnt played like a vt at all. (He said he was Dobby with no powers at all, and then confirmed that his alignment was obvious that he always protected Harry)
Bigger problem, he isnt even defending himself anymore!
I think Metz is scum. However, if I look at Strike and ignore all his defending of Mets he seems to be town. I do what to find out more about the two of them, but I shall wait on that till D3 as we are getting close to the deadline. D3, I want an explanation from Charm, and I want an explanation from Strike. I will also put a case together against Streaker as he is next on my list, but we'll have to wait and see what I come up with after going through all his posts.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
StorrZerg wrote: i find no joy in this
I cant see why Town would be on about Mtam, as you say Strike and has been stated many times by many people now. Mtam is Harry Potter until proof says otherwise. Storr flipping provides no proof, unless he flips mafia mason, which has a zero percent chance imo.got tonkaed wrote:Flipping skill just doesn't tell us anything that I can see would be super impactful. Flipping storr might actually tell us something about mtam though.
DoomYoshi wrote:
vote talapus
You lying sack of cunt!
Not necesarilly ignoring your post about him, but not putting up a case against storr at all is the interesting part. They know he isn't town (like 99,99%), and they think they can't be punished for having their vote om storr at day end.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:I cant see why Town would be on about Mtam, as you say Strike and has been stated many times by many people now. Mtam is Harry Potter until proof says otherwise. Storr flipping provides no proof, unless he flips mafia mason, which has a zero percent chance imo.got tonkaed wrote:Flipping skill just doesn't tell us anything that I can see would be super impactful. Flipping storr might actually tell us something about mtam though.
I love the fact that those pushing for a Storr lynch today arent bringing up my wonderful post about him possibly being a third party recruiter. Much more of a worry.
