[Official] HP Mafia - MVP: Aage - Archive

[aage]

Oh, but if it makes the rest happy I will confidently go ahead and Unvote

Thank you.

Concerning your action. If you do not end up getting lynched, I suggest you simply don't announce who you send the message to. If you are town, announcing beforehand makes it too easy to be subject to sabotage.

[got tonkaed]

Oh, but if it makes the rest happy I will confidently go ahead and Unvote though i'd much rather we lynch me than out others like me.

Vote: GT I can't explain it, but the more I interact with you this game the more I get the feeling that you are ...off. I believe strike is right and that you are flying under the radar. I can't really put my finger on it either but your posts are different than usual. I think you are hiding something, care to share?

I guess I should post more so that I am not so under the radar

I know I have done some things that look weird ala the conversation with aage before things got weird for you, but I don't know how to respond to things until they get brought up.

If aage wants to bring up his read on me being scum before Mudpuppy or Strike wants to present his case, I am happy to talk about it.

So far I have primarily tried to vote storr out every day I dont think we have scum, and flipped to Degaston after Pershy claimed day 1. I also hopped on to a cop check lynch.

[aage]

Oh, but if it makes the rest happy I will confidently go ahead and Unvote

Thank you.

Concerning your action. If you do not end up getting lynched, I suggest you simply don't announce who you send the message to. If you are town, announcing beforehand makes it too easy to be subject to sabotage.

I should add that I don't think your message-sending abilities exempt you from being scum. Storr seems to disagree tho

[got tonkaed]

Flavor has been on enough that for that to be his spell he is probably a bad guy.

it is possible that Sirius could have the ability he had flavor wise, but pairing it with that spell makes no sense at all. I don't think we have enough of a reason to assume the mod just made a really weird goof, especially since I don't see evidence to suggest why in what we have so far.

[Talapus]

I should add that I don't think your message-sending abilities exempt you from being scum. Storr seems to disagree tho

I would completely agree with you on this and would question it for any player. I know I'm town but everyone else has to wonder. I think it is a weird choice for my role but I guess I was a rather absent and elusive character in the books so guess I can't really argue against it either.

[StorrZerg]

Talapus, can you give your opinion on virus?

[Talapus]

Talapus, can you give your opinion on virus?

I think a claim would be a good thing. He has so few posts it's hard to get a real read

[HotShot53]

Endgame should not be lynched today in my opinion. Peripheral characters have more or less checked out, and Endgame's character would seem to be town aligned.

Hanging around for more info on Talapus before deciding where Id go next.

Would probably still consider virus simply because it would be good to find something out about those notes. Also going back to vote counts to see if I can find anything.

I find it odd that Hotshot felt the need to vote for neither of those players right before the deadline d1. What was the point of voting storr with 0 votes on him right before deadline?

As I've explained a couple times already, I was in the process of switching my vote, but was fastposted by 2-3 others who already had changed their votes... so at that point my vote was meaningless and no matter where I put it nothing would change. So I put it where I wish others had earlier, on storr, rather than just on the better of two evils.

As for Talapus now, I have no knowledge of the HP universe really, so others will have to say how inherently scummy of a spell he has. In mafia terms, from what I recall sending secret messages is usually a town power. For those of you who say he should have just sent a message to a town saying "Hi, I'm town".... what good would that have done? A scum with the power could have done the same thing, and probably would have been more likely to do so. Since sending a secret message without actually having anything secret to say doesn't help anyone too much, he seems to have tried to use it to the best of his ability to create discussions/test how people would react to receiving the message. That seems towny to me. So even though he's not much better than a VT at this point, he at least has a provable non-dangerous role, so I would not be in favor of lynching him.

fp by talapus, and I agree with that, which is why my vote will stay on virus

[got tonkaed]

That doesn't really add up though. Your vote could have had a pretty big influence given the circumstances. To just decide eh ill do nothing with it (which is essentially what a storr vote during the 11th hour was) isn't really meaningless. It would look better to not have your name tied to someone who flipped townie, which is essentially what you chose to do.

[StorrZerg]

Talapus, can you give your opinion on virus?

I think a claim would be a good thing. He has so few posts it's hard to get a real read

So why avoid pressure on him as if he is tainted meat?

[Talapus]

Talapus, can you give your opinion on virus?

I think a claim would be a good thing. He has so few posts it's hard to get a real read

So why avoid pressure on him as if he is tainted meat?

Because he said like 5 pages ago he thought name claims were a moot point. So why vote him if it sounds like all we have to do is ask him.

Virus, care to claim?

[madmitch]

first of all welcome Mars and sorry Storr for not believing you about the msg WOW Talapus first the messages and the claiming you are sirus black and you have the power to send these messages which you don,t and mistakke in the first msg distacteacted, you probally meant they are distracted act while they mourn but to carry it on in the second msg wow what nerve you are scummy in my books oh by the way how is your cousin Bellatrix. I said I wasn,t going to do this but I feel I must. UNVOTE VOTE TALAPUS

[StorrZerg]

Talapus, can you give your opinion on virus?

I think a claim would be a good thing. He has so few posts it's hard to get a real read

So why avoid pressure on him as if he is tainted meat?

Because he said like 5 pages ago he thought name claims were a moot point. So why vote him if it sounds like all we have to do is ask him.

Virus, care to claim?

Because he will not unless he gets more votes

[Talapus]

Because he will not unless he gets more votes

How do we know, we ask for a claim let's see what happens. He certainly doesn't sound like he cares one way or another so I doubt more votes are going to make it happen.

[Talapus]

and you have the power to send these messages which you don,t

Well you're wrong first off, but you are stating this like you know for a fact so I am interested in what it is you think you know.

[StorrZerg]

Because he will not unless he gets more votes

How do we know, we ask for a claim let's see what happens. He certainly doesn't sound like he cares one way or another so I doubt more votes are going to make it happen.

Virus is like most. Like the "standard " for claiming. Claims at L-2. He would have claimed all ready if what you think is true.

[charm]

Wow! This has been an interesting 5 pages.

I know HP books and movies pretty well, I'm not surprised at the messaging ability that Sirius Black would have. However, Tal did a poor job on sending the messages. So much more could have been gained than the crazy confusion. I am grateful that Tal acknowledges that I'm town, but I don't think that his messages to Storr/me prove our alignment. I think it actually caused us to look more at MTam (which we were believing he was Town) and Virus/Streaker. My nose is twitching, if only I could give Tal something to munch on that he is telling the truth.

So, I'm going to place my vote on Virus to help get him to claim - I have stated from almost the beginning that he is not playing as he usually does, which leads me to believe he is scummy. But, after we hear what Virus says, I might decide to put my vote on Tal.

UNVOTE

VOTE VIRUS

Mod - can we get a vote count please?

FP'd by Tal

[virus90]

havent caught up, havent read last 4 pages i guess. but i feel like people want me to claim.

i dont expect to be able to catch up before sunday. i am off to bed now and traveling back to the netherlands tomorrow.

for my claim:
i am Neville Longbottom, VT. i have no wand.
i hinted it in first day 1 message: its crypric but thats the point. using the words Cherry and Unicorns. the wood and core of the wand of Neville Longbottom acording to the wiki.

And i want Cherry Blossom Bertie botts every flavour beans and a butterbeer oh Princess of Unicorns!

so see you all sunday.

[mtamburini]

im back

[mtamburini]

Has almost everyone claimed? Is it possible to for it to be broken based on actions?

[StorrZerg]

dont think more than half alive are claimed.

1. BGtheBrain - Strike wolf v2.0 Town mason (confirmed)
2. StorrZerg 3p survivor
3. *Pixar* - Marashu Doc
4. got tonkaed unknown
6. mtamburini ??? weird
8. dakky21 Talapus Can send an anonymous msg to 1 person per night (responsible for weird notes)
9. Endgame422 VT
10. Streaker weird bus. has to target 1 person each night, on second night swaps the targets of those 2 abilities towards each other.
11. aage unknown
14. virus90 VT wandless
15. madmitch Ron, unknown
16. dazza2008 unknown
17. MudPuppy unknown
20. sempaispellcheck double vote
21. HotShot53 unknown
22. dd515087 unknown
24. charm unknown

With that 8 are unknown.

9 are claimed with
3 being VT
1 Being survivor
5 being PR

If someone wants to add names thats fine.

Msg roles known
2 Mason (strike ) Msg Talapus

Vote related roles
2 double vote (sempaispellcheck ) mafia (vote steal)

Investigative
watcher (strike 1.0 dead) follower (deg)

Protective
Doc (pix/marsh)

Killing
Vig (pershy) psner (mafia?) mafia kill (mafia) ??? (tambo?)

Other
Bus (Streaker)

3rd party
survivor (wing/Storr) cult (????)

TBh we dont have much overlap on roles that have been claimed. We probably do have someone closer to cop, we probably have another protective role. Along with someone who can disarm.

[StorrZerg]

* slightly less than half have claimed*

[dd515087]

I don't disbelieve Endgame's claim, but I'm still not full sold on it either.

For now unvote because I think we need to push somewhere else.

AND after catching up fully I think that somewhere is Talapus. Legilimens are whatever it's called is bad so out of everyone that's claimed today: End, Virus, Talapus, I think Talapus is most likely scum. Vote Talapus

Also please quote me where I said scum had to be on the lynches. You bolded something in your analysis that I flat out never said. I think if you go back to the post where I put in the end of day wagons, I am pretty clear about saying maybe someone hopped on as scum.

Considering I didn't have a vote on Endgame or DD, I think you may be protesting too much.

FP it is literally following up on strikes point about people voting. That was the only reasno why I did it.

Why didn't you vote either of us?

I also like what aage started looking at on GT.

Finally, Storr's play has been getting less and less pro-town since the begining IMO. He also claimed 3P survivor in the last mafia game and flipped as 3P serial killer so I really don't think we should take his word as truth.

[got tonkaed]

My logic behind not voting you was spelled out with aage. Essentially I was responding to a point that strike had made, perhaps not articulated by myself. My point was that there may not have been scum on the bandwagons. I pointed out the people who had been on the bandwagons, and hazarded a guess. Your point about unvoting and pushing Endgame was noted.

[mtamburini]

Whats been mudpuppy been doing? i thought he was scum