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[virus90]

no what i intended was that i am suspicious of both.
and that mud doesnt vote mitch but goes to aage seems like a desperate/angry attempt at aage.

im ok with either a mitch or mudpuppy lynch. but that shouldnt come as a surprise

[charm]

Well I was going back and forth between Mitch and mudpuppy until mudpuppy slipped and said...I'm saying I can stop multiple people with the same evil power.

I don't understand why a townie would have an evil power.

Also, I never said my wand was given to someone else. My wand was taken and I'm assuming the person that took it could give it back to me. Please. Please please

Vote mudpuppy

[strike wolf]

Vote count please.

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

madmitch - Storr, dd, HotShot, aage, Strikewolf (L-3)
MudPuppy - Streaker, Marashu, tonka, charm
dazza - mitch, mtamb, Endgame
aage - MudPuppy

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

[MudPuppy]

Well I was going back and forth between Mitch and mudpuppy until mudpuppy slipped and said...I'm saying I can stop multiple people with the same evil power.

I don't understand why a townie would have an evil power.

Perhaps "evil" was too strong of a word. It is a killing power and clearly both vigilantes and scum have killing powers. Anyone arguing that point is either being naive or is being deceptive/scummy.

OPEN MESSAGE TO TOWNIES: I am not scum. I am town. If you lynch me, we will lose as we can't afford another mislynch. Nothing I've stated in my claim is a contradiction as some are trying to argue. If you have questions, then ask... but don't string up the nurse!!! I'm going on a real life vacation tomorrow but am not ready to concede this game. I don't want to lose and will fight for my life.

Deg, a confirmed townie, had a strong town read on me... He was right. If you want to remain skeptical, then that's fine... but don't lynch me today. Deg's read on why I'm town:

Degaston
This analysis I like the least because Deg gives us two scenarios for each player and then connects a read to it with no particular motivation. His "strongly town"-read on Mudpuppy seems based on the fact that MP believed his claim. His other reads are not substantially supported at all.

It's not just that he believed my claim. It's that he believed both my claim and Pershy's, and made a strong effort to not have either one of us lynched, even though it would have looked very scummy if he had been successful.

You now know that Pershy was town, so MudPuppy's votes could not have been a case of one scum trying to protect two others.

If just MudPuppy and I were scum, then what possible reason could he have had for unvoting Pershy at the last minute to try to create a tie? He could just leave his vote as is, and let aage take the heat for being the vote that pushed Pershy over the edge.

If just MudPuppy was scum, then there is absolutely no reason for him to try to create a tie. If he is successful, then not only will he have prevented a townie lynch, but it would draw a huge amount of attention to him and be very likely to get him lynched on D2.

So whether you believe I'm town or not, there is no logical reason for MudPuppy to vote the way he did except as a potentially suicidal effort to protect what he thought were two high value town roles.

[StorrZerg]

Neither doc claim voted madmitch correct?

[MudPuppy]

and that mud doesnt vote mitch but goes to aage seems like a desperate/angry attempt at aage.

You make it sound like my aage vote is an OMGUS vote... I'm the one who's been openly skeptical of him since D1. His latest "case" against me is based on his arguement that only town can have the killing spell, Sectumsempra. That is a ludicrous and scummy basis for a lynch... and is my reason for revoting him.

[strike wolf]

I dont think so. Marashu I think has been on Mudpuppy since the start more or less.

Screw it. Mudpuppy is town. The fact that Streaker has resorted to flawed flavor arguments to push the lynch and discrediting me to avoid talking about other cases that might cause town to slow down the lynch on Mud is proof enough for me. Mud has also not contradicted himself directly. He clarified a vague statement but that does not make it a contradiction. Aage's argument isnt much better

[StorrZerg]

Virus90 is town

[got tonkaed]

Virus90 is town

Why change your mind, you kinda pushed for him over the past few days.

Unvote
Vote madmitch

[StorrZerg]

[b]unvote[\b]


Virus has no reason to unvote as mafia, and the extra vote put it at l-1, one vote ends the lynch. I strongly doubt mafia was using it as a fake to pull pressure off of madmitch. If they can win with a miss lynch today, they have a plan, and no reason to show the vote till they can win.

[StorrZerg]

And by that, I believe madmitch to be town.

[got tonkaed]

And by that, I believe madmitch to be town.

Why wouldn't we get any info from him about any of the abilities he has if he was town?

[StorrZerg]

Virus90 is town

Why change your mind, you kinda pushed for him over the past few days.

Unvote
Vote madmitch

As I said he had no reason to unvote knowing magia control an extra vote. Only way madmitch is mafia, is if mafia did this as an attempt to draw attention away from madmitch which is kinda bad. Better to bury him or wait the mass claims out to decide about him. Secondly the extra vote put him at hidden L-1, meaning he could have been hammered. To scare people to not voting him, vote needs to be placed earlier .

[Streaker]

I dont think so. Marashu I think has been on Mudpuppy since the start more or less.

Screw it. Mudpuppy is town. The fact that Streaker has resorted to flawed flavor arguments to push the lynch and discrediting me to avoid talking about other cases that might cause town to slow down the lynch on Mud is proof enough for me. Mud has also not contradicted himself directly. He clarified a vague statement but that does not make it a contradiction. Aage's argument isnt much better

Wasn't trying to discredit you. Merily stating my dissatisfaction with the lack of a proper case coming from you.
Also my cased isn't flawed, nor flavour. Don't pretend it isn't there.

Once I see something, I go for it. Quite strongly. What use is it if nobody else joins on what I call out? If you want to push other venues, by all means. But you waiting on Mtam isn't helping anyone right now.
Hence my calling you out to take a stand.


FP'd by storr

[StorrZerg]

And by that, I believe madmitch to be town.

Why wouldn't we get any info from him about any of the abilities he has if he was town?

Cause he is mental?. We had Talapus as town craft 2 terribly scummy msgs. And send no msg at night 1. Being bad doesn't = mafia.

[StorrZerg]

Also lynch neither protection role imo.

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

madmitch - dd, HotShot, aage, Strikewolf, tonka (L-3)
MudPuppy - Streaker, Marashu, charm
dazza - mitch, mtamb, Endgame
aage - MudPuppy

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

[StorrZerg]

Anyone wanna talk about virus, mafia vote, madmitch situation?

[mtamburini]

Anyone wanna talk about virus, mafia vote, madmitch situation?

How about the dazza claim and my reasoning for lynching him?

[StorrZerg]

Anyone wanna talk about virus, mafia vote, madmitch situation?

How about the dazza claim and my reasoning for lynching him?

Ignoring you till you full claim.

[mtamburini]

HP disarming makes sense to me via expelliarmus. If mtam confirms he disarmed charm/MP on those nights id say it fairly clears them.

Why does it clear them?

[mtamburini]

Anyone wanna talk about virus, mafia vote, madmitch situation?

How about the dazza claim and my reasoning for lynching him?

Ignoring you till you full claim.

K bye

[got tonkaed]

Why don't you just do it? Everyone else has. It is like you are literally trying to pull votes to yourself for being obstinate.

[mtamburini]

Why don't you just do it? Everyone else has. It is like you are literally trying to pull votes to yourself for being obstinate.

Do you think me not claiming is more scum or town indicative based on your bolded statement?

My claim brings no new information to the table nor does it confirm anyones allignemnt