[Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [8/14] D4:Twisted Pattern

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

WING WHO ARE YOU SHOOTING

I am not telling you. If tomorrow comes and Mets is dead and I have no excuse then kill me, thats how mafia works. Now stop asking stupid questions.

No, the way that mafia works is that you actually try to win. That means using all the information you have to make a best judgment about the situation, not about fucking up and then asking for forgiveness later. There is an excellent reason why IB said that I am town and that is all you need to know.

I think we've established that shooting you isnt sensible. So if I did then it follows that I am mafia. Asking forgivness wouldn't work.

Point is that you either trust me to act in our best interests or not. Declaring my action early doesnt gain anything. Declaring that I have a vig shot from Storr didnt help either, all it did was give mafia a target to block.

Storr - in hp mafia, i asked mitch to claim, he did. Thats not alignment, thats the experience level of the player. You cannot crucify him for following your advice. I told Rand to claim D4 before day actions. You appear to be trying to lynch someone with a fabricated case.

Unvote vote virus - i would prefernot to have an unkillable third party in the game. Quite happy to leave hotshot to the night kills.

[Metsfanmax]

WING WHO ARE YOU SHOOTING

I am not telling you. If tomorrow comes and Mets is dead and I have no excuse then kill me, thats how mafia works. Now stop asking stupid questions.

No, the way that mafia works is that you actually try to win. That means using all the information you have to make a best judgment about the situation, not about fucking up and then asking for forgiveness later. There is an excellent reason why IB said that I am town and that is all you need to know.

I think we've established that shooting you isnt sensible. So if I did then it follows that I am mafia. Asking forgivness wouldn't work.

I am speaking to mtam as much as to you.

[virus90]

at no point i said i was unkillable, if thats what you all think. i commuted last night, its not an endless thing, can do it more often but not unnightkillable...

[StorrZerg]

why do you guys keep saying unkillable 3p

he isn't unkillable if he can be lynched, he isn't scary because he doesn't do anything.

you have a claimed mafia announcing to the world who he shot n1 and n2 and your scared

The only death n1, and with no deaths n2, WITH A ROLE BLOCK ON THE MEDIC, and his shot claim is on a 3p with commute.

Cause if he is town, we are at the point where mafia don't have a kill??? or have failed to kill 2 nights in a row guys please.

[StorrZerg]

virus you are not telling the full bit of your role. you can do more than commute, claim fully

[Endgame422]

Why claim the N1 kill if im scum?
Why not just say i RBd end 1.0?
Claiming that i have killing power gains me lots of attention,im begging to be RBd,investigated,watched not exactly great for scum.
Could have just claimed my RB.
I agree its weird scum have zero kills so far but im certainly not "claimed mafia".

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

If you are not mafia, then who is?

[StorrZerg]

Why claim the N1 kill if im scum?
Because the easiest lie is to claim your real actions
Why not just say i RBd end 1.0?
Easiest lie is to claim your real night actions
Following up on this, you didnt commit the actions, you replaced in and cannot give full information on this
Claiming that i have killing power gains me lots of attention,im begging to be RBd,investigated,watched not exactly great for scum.
Could have just claimed my RB.
I agree its weird scum have zero kills so far but im certainly not "claimed mafia".

and wifom wifom wifom

present reads and present a better case than yourself that isn't virus.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Storr. N1 End killed End, and someone tried to recruit IB. I feel like you are ignoring the latter.

[StorrZerg]

are you suggesting mafia has no kp this game?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

are you suggesting mafia has no kp this game?

I dont know, but i have more concern about the unknown latter, than the killer we can monitor.

[StorrZerg]

i have more concern over someone thats going to be killing a town.

[StorrZerg]

Here is where i'm at wing.

Virus 3p w/e He should die soon yes
Streaker mafia claimed RB
Wing town unknown (town read on him day 1) (blocked talap night 2) (likely vt, taking actions twice if he isn't vt then im worried)
Mtamb (unknown) (still town read, kinda fading) (he should claim today )
madmitch (fk if i know he should die soon ) hard linking with hotshot, might be worth seeing interaction of them tomorrow
Storr (im town bitches)
Hotshot (vt claim) still sketch
marashu (town vt dead)
GT / endgame 2.0 claimes RB and VIG is the only known killer in the game right now. I do not believe him to be town. Had 0 impact on streaker lynch. Did not claim his shot day 2.
endgame 1.0 unknown town
dd5 (unknown) strong town read on killing streaker, has fallen off pretty hard lately.
mets (unknown) still strong town read mostly from day 1/day 2.
IB (cop) cleared talap
Talap (protective role / medic) Town.

[StorrZerg]

actually sure idgaf, we can lynch virus, and one person shoots end. Im happy with that.

[Iron Butterfly]

actually sure idgaf, we can lynch virus, and one person shoots end. Im happy with that.

That was not so hard.

Now somthing that has concerned me. My role is thus....

I determine if the Shadow influences someone each night. Also being Aes Sedai my skills that tell me of Shadow Spawn or those whom the Dark one may influence.

Now I cleared Tal but if he were the Main bad Guy could he perhaps be "God Father" in that he cant get noticed by me? Normally I would put Tal up there to be lynched.

I say this only because someone is definately lying...weather a VT or Power Role.

[Endgame422]

i have more concern over someone thats going to be killing a town.

Then we should probably lynch mtam.
I can just RB instead of the vig shot tonight.
As to the better case then me besides virus, basically 2 options.
HotShot- Not my case originally but he has been begging for an opportunity to claim which reads like he knows he has a solid fakeclaim.
He pushed for major claims and said he would claim D2 and pushed for massclaim today. As a VT this is not what you should be worried about. VTs should be trying to cover for PRs not expose them.
The VT who isnt a VT claim seems like a solid cover. Same thing he pulled as a death eater trying to blend into the wall a bit.
Mitch- Late on both lynches,major claim that hasn't been countered but certainly could be fake.
Claimed huge role under a small amount of pressure from storr,no votes even or real threats to his life at that point which again is not unlike mitchs last performance as scum in HP mafia.
Made a strange post after the mars lynch that jumped out at me. When i posted it with my vote he voted me "tit for tat" but has now backed off when i pushed him to give me a reason.
Lied about not knowing how important his character is to the story(the main chatacter that wing/mars mentioned several times) but he took time to look up that his character was HS chatacters best friend.
So he read his characters wiki,but missed that he was the lead character? Doubtful even for mitch.
Fpd by IB,storr

[StorrZerg]

Why mtamburini, what's your case against him

[Endgame422]

Mtam will likely shoot mets. Despite what IB says about mets being town.
No clue if mtam is scum or what at this point just that he is likely to shoot town.

[StorrZerg]

thats not really a case for his lynch though.
because that seems to be opinions of other people and not yours. just feels like your saying what you think people want you to say.

[virus90]

virus you are not telling the full bit of your role. you can do more than commute, claim fully

i can not do anything but commute, yes and the day visit ofcourse but nothing else.
but since commuting is crucial to survival, as last night proved, i am not gonna declare when i commute and when i dont. since basicly it loses the purpose at that point.
thats the full bit.

[StorrZerg]

thing is, there has to be a trade off to commuting

Other wise one would always commute. Pretty much 0 reason not to use it. additionally you should be a lot more vocal and demanding with your reads, which you are not.

Thus the mod wouldn't' give you a role like that unless the only way to not commute was to visit me, which i find highly unlikely.

So you are still lying about your role, since you are not telling if its limited. Which if you are real, it obviously has a limit.
Or if there is no limit, you have another ability which you are hiding.

[virus90]

please just read back i already told it was limited.

[Endgame422]

thats not really a case for his lynch though.
because that seems to be opinions of other people and not yours. just feels like your saying what you think people want you to say.

You think the case on mitch is what people want to hear?
Noone else has pushed him as scum at all and hes claimed the lead role in the game.
My statement about lynching mtam was directly in response to you saying I should be lynched so i would/could not vig a townie.
Mtam is more likely to do that then i am. Especially if hes considering me/mets as his targets.

[madmitch]

So Virus you are saying you can commute and you also have a day visit? must be nice,what to you trade if you want to trade ? do you trade your vote or do you trade your power of commute?

[madmitch]

So Virus you are saying you can commute and you also have a day visit? must be nice,what to you trade if you want to trade ? do you trade your vote or do you trade your power of commute?