Confederate History--Dispelling the Myths...

[mrswdk]

tl;dr

[Metsfanmax]

the irony of Lincoln freeing only the slaves in the states under the Confederacy and not in the then slave states in the Union is lost on most historians

Or perhaps it is just possible that you missed the point. Which is that Lincoln only had the legal authority to free slaves in Confederate states because it was an action taken using military powers. Lincoln had no legal authority to free slaves in states that the Union wasn't at war with, because, well, the Union wasn't at war with them, and the President cannot unilaterally change legislative policy.

[AndyDufresne]

the President cannot unilaterally change legislative policy.

THANKS OBAMA.


--Andy

[a6mzero]

Immediately following his surrender at Appomattox, General Robert E. Lee, ordered the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, the Stars and Bars, to be cased. Prior to his death he insisted that he not be buried in his Confederate uniform. His family asked that all veterans attending his funeral not wear their uniforms. Lee understood that the flag was a symbol a failed revolt, and when the revolt was over he put the symbol away. The Stars and Bars now belong in a museum not flying over public buildings.

Also, Lee, in contrast to his fellows in the South, would never have fought for the Confederacy had Virginia not seceded. Also a fun fact, unlike many of his Southern contemporaries, Lee believed that blacks should get a good education and even had his wife and her mother set up schools during the Civil War for them (which was illegal in the Confederacy). He wasn't perfect though, as he also believed that freed slaves should not get the right to vote and believed it a "necessary evil" (he had only seen slavery at it's "best", but not the harsh conditions like that of the cotton fields and such).

An interesting person, to be sure. And often cited as a great general, though he fought the Civil War like he had the Union's resources and man power, rather than the South's. Worked for a time, but in the end, it was a bust. Especially after Gettysburg.

I'm sure the 66,000 bluecoat dead and wounded incurred during U.S. "butcher" Grant's Overland campaign thought Marse Robert was a bust after Gettysburg also thaiguy.

[clangfield]

MYTH-- The Confederates won the American Civil War and still think they have an identity that has a right to exist.
FACT-- they lost.

Get over it.

[ConfederateSS]

-----Unlike The Knights of The Round Table...Which has faded into History. But represented in CC if you look close enough. The Cont. USA is broken up into regions... Northeast...Northwest...Mid-West...Southwest....And The SOUTH... Some good qualities still exist from the South. Like southern hospitality. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...Both were full of Chivalry........

[warmonger1981]

The Knights of the Round was an allegory with much deeper esoteric meanings than a fictional story.

[AndyDufresne]

-----Unlike The Knights of The Round Table...Which has faded into History. But represented in CC if you look close enough. The Cont. USA is broken up into regions... Northeast...Northwest...Mid-West...Southwest....And The SOUTH... Some good qualities still exist from the South. Like southern hospitality. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...Both were full of Chivalry........

Southeast, Mid-Atlantic, blah blah blah.


--Andy

[ConfederateSS]

The Knights of the Round was an allegory with much deeper esoteric meanings than a fictional story.

-----It is not really known if there was a King Author. But there was a real Order of Knights of the round table. A real life Lance-O-Lot. There is always some bit of truth. No matter how outlandish a story is. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). I feel the same way Andy...when it comes to breaking down. Collage sports....You couldn't get away with "blank" hospitality anywhere else in the country. I guess you need their accent to pull it off.

[mrswdk]

I watched Ten Years a Slave on the plane and the white guys liked to raep the black women. I guess they did not think they were so different after all.

[a6mzero]

We realize we lost the war. Hard to forget when u live in the only part of the US occupied by a hostile army for 12 years.

[jonesthecurl]

ask some of the Native Americans about that one.

[Army of GOD]

MYTH--The South revered slavery.
FACT--A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861-1865 officially commenced,the Southern States were actually in process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it's servants in 1859,and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South,a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

do you have ANY sources for this? not to mention the other 30 points you make without soruces...

[Neoteny]

Confederate history lasted about four years. It was a very short lived state that was defeated by the USA. Why the rednecks around here fly their flag is beyond me.

And it is a shame about Stone Mountain (though the quarrying left much worse scarring than that silly carving. If you live in the US, there's a good chance something near you was built with Stone Mountain granite). It's a nice area to hike around when the weather is bearable, as in not right now.

[tzor]

do you have ANY sources for this? not to mention the other 30 points you make without soruces...

From what I read, his argument is the equivalent of saying that Congress today is in the process of eliminating the debt. Yes there were a few people towards the end of the war who had proposed freeing slaves so they could be used in the army, but this was rejected by all the major slaveholders at the time and it went nowhere.

[a6mzero]

2/18/65 Confederate congress authorized the enlistments of blacks into the southern army. To little to late.