Bernie Sanders' Accomplishments in the Private Sector

[Bernie Sanders]

uhh, what about Henry???

Henry Rollins the punk singer.

[owenshooter]

WingCmdr Ginkapo, I have been caught plagiarizing other peoples words within this forum. so, most of what i say is stolen and this is only a character i am playing. many feel that i am PimpDave, but that has yet to be proven. What has been proven is, I HAVE BEEN CAUGHT PLAGIARIZING IN THIS FORUM.

If you think that firing employees is the best way to run a business, then you dont know how to run a business. Inspire not fire.

Wing, i think you have a very valid point, firing is not how you run a biz. However, you must realize that all of his responses are going to be copy/pasted from the internet and will not be his own words or thoughts. the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

*I PLAGIARIZED AND WAS CAUGHT AND AM NOT TRYING TO DEFLECT WITH NAME CALLING*

i like that the plagiarizer is now claiming it was part of his schtick.. that is cute. probably stolen, but cute...-Jésus noir

[Bernie Sanders]

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 8&t=215278

[TA1LGUNN3R]

uhh, what about Henry???

That's henry rollins of black flag, you filthy pleb.

-TG

[Phatscotty]

Success in the private sector, of course, being a common thread among previous Presidents.

Presidents' Occupations

Washington did quite well turning wheat into whiskey.
A lot of Presidents had previous law practices.
Teddy was a rancher. Bully for him!
Carter grew peanuts.

A bit before my time, but didn't Carter get made fun of constantly for being "that peanut farmer?"

-TG

Yeah, but of course the fun was made only because Carter was such an oddball for finding success in the private sector

[subtleknifewield]

Actually a number of previous presidents were successful before being elected. As pointed out, Washington was quite accomplished...and Abraham Lincoln was a Lawyer (they were much more respected in that day and age than they are in modern times).

[Bernie Sanders]

Actually a number of previous presidents were successful before being elected. As pointed out, Washington was quite accomplished...and Abraham Lincoln was a Lawyer (they were much more respected in that day and age than they are in modern times).

Those times most people were self-employed [farmers, blacksmiths, bootleggers and such] or were serfs or slaves or uneducated.

You can see for yourself by some of these posts that they need to study up on history.

[subtleknifewield]

No arguments from me there.

Dunno if anyone mentioned Theodore Roosevelt, but him as well...a cop, politician on several levels of government, conservationist, soldier, author...he did a lot of stuff.

[Bernie Sanders]

No arguments from me there.

Dunno if anyone mentioned Theodore Roosevelt, but him as well...a cop, politician on several levels of government, conservationist, soldier, author...he did a lot of stuff.

Yes he was and one of my favorite Presidents.

[owenshooter]

Don't forget the time i was busted for plagiarizing within the forums!!!

no, no, we will never forget!!! also, bernie was able to start a flame thread in the forums without any repercussions... i remember that... oh, and that one time he was busted for *PLAGIARISM*... outside of that, i can't think of much that bernie "the plagiarist" sanders has accomplished...

and i love the comments about Carter... don't forget how much of a joke Carter was until he stumbled into his new carnation and became a world darling... that guy was able to fulfill his potential/greatness, finally... but it took him a great while... love that guy!!!-Jésus noir

[Bernie Sanders]

Don't forget the time i was busted for plagiarizing within the forums!!!

no, no, we will never forget!!! also, bernie was able to start a flame thread in the forums without any repercussions... i remember that... oh, and that one time he was busted for *PLAGIARISM*... outside of that, i can't think of much that bernie "the plagiarist" sanders has accomplished...

and i love the comments about Carter... don't forget how much of a joke Carter was until he stumbled into his new carnation and became a world darling... that guy was able to fulfill his potential/greatness, finally... but it took him a great while... love that guy!!!-Jésus noir

[PLAYER57832]

.
.
.
.

Government is fundamentally different from the private sector in many ways, why would you assume that private success equals public success?

The first reasonably honest man in the White House since Grover Cleveland, and Americans didn't have the common sense to respect him. The religious right crucified him for admitting to getting turned on by looking at a woman who was not his wife, and thus began the Protestant Reign of Terror in a nation which previously had been known for its religious tolerance.

While a dozen Republican presidents before and after Carter talked about deregulation and reducing the size of the federal bureaucracy, Carter (a Democrat) was the only president of the 20th century that actually deregulated some things and reduced the net size of the federal bureaucracy. Even so, on no evidence whatsoever, neo-cons call him a "pinko" and they get away with it, since the memory of the average voter lasts about 25 minutes. During his tenure, however, the best they could do was to ceaselessly ridicule him for growing a crop with a funny name, even though it's a food that 90% of people enjoy.

Its actually worse than that, some of the prime reforms (to the fed, for example) that others took credit for, particularly Reagan, were actually from Carter. But, of course, all that is rhetoric. Its really always been about propping up the big businesses. That's why Citizen's United is so bad.. now even foreign business owners can donate with very little effort on their part. (they do have to pretend to cycle it through US businesses or such ).

isn't it interesting... all this push to the "religious" right, increasing morals in the US, has resulted in more poverty, a greater disparity in wealth and environmental destruction so heavy that its just ignored as being "too big to tackle without damaging our economy"

but hey... end times are near, so who cares anyway, right?

[PLAYER57832]

The first reasonably honest man in the White House since Grover Cleveland, and Americans didn't have the common sense to respect him. The religious right crucified him for admitting to getting turned on by looking at a woman who was not his wife, and thus began the Protestant Reign of Terror in a nation which previously had been known for its religious tolerance.

While a dozen Republican presidents before and after Carter talked about deregulation and reducing the size of the federal bureaucracy, Carter (a Democrat) was the only president of the 20th century that actually deregulated some things and reduced the net size of the federal bureaucracy. Even so, on no evidence whatsoever, neo-cons call him a "pinko" and they get away with it, since the memory of the average voter lasts about 25 minutes. During his tenure, however, the best they could do was to ceaselessly ridicule him for growing a crop with a funny name, even though it's a food that 90% of people enjoy.

Its actually worse than that, some of the prime reforms (to the fed, for example) that others took credit for were actually from Reagan. But, of course, all that is rhetoric. Its really always been about propping up the big businesses. That's why Citizen's United is so bad.. now even foreign business owners can donate with very little effort on their part. (they do have to pretend to cycle it through US businesses or such ).

isn't it interesting... all this push to the "religious" right, increasing morals in the US, has resulted in more poverty, a greater disparity in wealth and environmental destruction so heavy that its just ignored as being "too big to tackle without damaging our economy"

[PLAYER57832]

and i love the comments about Carter... don't forget how much of a joke Carter was until he stumbled into his new carnation and became a world darling... that guy was able to fulfill his potential/greatness, finally... but it took him a great while... love that guy!!!-Jésus noir

[/quote]Only in popular public rhetoric. Even going to college in staunch Reagan country (southern CA), we heard all about how underrated Carter was. However, that is sort of the point. The measure of a politician is not how well they do, its how much power they accrue to the office.

[tzor]

Government is fundamentally different from the private sector in many ways, why would you assume that private success equals public success?

I never implied that. However, working in the government is a lot like being a Greek "scientist" before the Roman's invaded. You are so buried in theory and so divorced from reality that you have absolutely no clue why shit is happening all around you. (True fact, the Greek philosophers thought experiments were beneath them so as a result a lot of their theories had no basis in actual fact.

Being in the private sector immerses you in something called "reality." You can't succeed in unless you can deal with it. Government always succeeds no matter what happens.

P.S. I hate the "religious right."

People hate Citizens United because the Unions lost their monopoly. So, how many major corporations are sponsoring Bernie Sanders? Donald Trump?

I mean, sure you can only people like the Bushes, the Clintons and Donald Trump be presidents because only the fucking rich can afford to run.

Wealth disparity, and environmental destruction are both products of the Obama administration.

[mrswdk]

True fact, the Greek philosophers thought experiments were beneath them so as a result a lot of their theories had no basis in actual fact.

How does one do a practical experiment in philosophy?

[Dukasaur]

]

Wealth disparity, and environmental destruction are both products of the Obama administration.

ROFL!

.http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicd ... ly-chart-2


The chart published in The Economist shows that the current trend in wealth disparity began around 1985 and picked up a lot of steam after 2002. The trend may have continued into the Obama years, but it certainly didn't begin with them.

In 2012, you returned to the 1917 levels.

[Bernie Sanders]

Blaming Obama for income and wealth disparity? That's quite a stretch of an imagination.

[tzor]

How does one do a practical experiment in philosophy?

Philosophers also dabbled in science, although it was completely theoretical.

Plato, for example dabbled in math.
Aristotle is considered a "Student of Plato" and did a lot of the sciences.

"Aristotle's views on physical science profoundly shaped medieval scholarship. Their influence extended into the Renaissance and were not replaced systematically until the Enlightenment and theories such as classical mechanics."

He does, however rely on observations, in direct contrast to his teacher Plato, but this is far from the scientific method of repeatable experiments.

Plato (left) and Aristotle (right), a detail of The School of Athens, a fresco by Raphael. Aristotle gestures to the earth, representing his belief in knowledge through empirical observation and experience, while holding a copy of his Nicomachean Ethics in his hand, whilst Plato gestures to the heavens, representing his belief in The Forms, while holding a copy of Timaeus

[tzor]

Blaming Obama for income and wealth disparity? That's quite a stretch of an imagination.

No stretch at all. It is intuitively obvious to the casual observer familiar with Obama's origins and motivations.

[mrswdk]

Blaming Obama for income and wealth disparity? That's quite a stretch of an imagination.

No stretch at all. It is intuitively obvious to the casual observer familiar with Obama's origins and motivations.

Jihad against the decadent West?

[tzor]

Jihad against the decadent West?

That's "Imperialist" West. but no, that just his personal preferences based on his family history showing up. His main motivations, however, is based on his years as a community organizer working under the principles of Saul Alinsky. Problems are not things to solve, they are things to derive power from. The disparity between the rich and the poor isn't a "problem to solve" but an "opportunity to exploit." If the poor become poorer, so much the better as they will have more reason to hate "the rich" which you can then use in your favor.

But not only "the rich." Under Obama, the poor have also loved to hate "the cops" as well (allowing him to attack local government's resistance to his regulations). Polarization is the best (if not the only) tool in his political toolbox.

[mrswdk]

Jihad against the decadent West?

That's "Imperialist" West.

Maybe it's both.

[Bernie Sanders]

Jihad against the decadent West?

That's "Imperialist" West.

Maybe it's both.

China's goal is to keep American Robber Barons happy, with cheap labor, laughable regulations and environmental standards.

[tzor]

China's goal is to keep American Robber Barons happy, with cheap labor, laughable regulations and environmental standards.

That's going to be hard. They can get cheaper labor from Mexico.