[Exp] CYOC! #4 Endgame! Town wins, you filthy animals

[madmitch]

okay ,good enough for now

[TheForgivenOne]

I do realize that pancake hasn't been on since I sent out roles. I'll give him a few more days before replacing him.

[madmitch]

your a better man than me, I would of turn him into a crepe by now

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Yeah I'm scummarining

Maybe its because I am British. But I wouldnt put it past Mets to have been completely honest, safe that no one would believe it. The truth is he is knowingly being inactive.

[HotShot53]

Yeah I'm scummarining

Maybe its because I am British. But I wouldnt put it past Mets to have been completely honest, safe that no one would believe it. The truth is he is knowingly being inactive.

That is a good point... I expected after that post he'd show up a bit later with an actual contribution, but nothing yet so far. So I'll vote mets to encourage him to participate some more, since I don't see anything else worthy of a vote so far.

(Yes, I know I'm doing exactly what I tease virus about doing most games, being the pot calling the kettle black... but not really seeing a better alternative right now)

[Metsfanmax]

Some thoughts I have so far.

Mars explain your read on IB.
He has only posted 2x
1 time to say opening scene is pure speculation(true but nothing that could show alignment)
And again to call dakky stupid for softclaiming and suggest a policy lynch of dakky.
You even listed him as your first read of town but i just dont see how.
Not that i have a case against him but whats your case for IBs towniness?

The frustration in his post against dakky is why I'm townreading him, both the frustration at the bad play and the frustration in trying to figure out if that play makes him town or scum.

I find it hard to believe mafia would just claim vig for noreason BUT if you are Town and telling the truth just do so instead of acting all coy that you may be lying to try and smooth over a stupid play.

Iron Butterfly's meta always involves getting frustrated at bad play. It's not alignment indicative. He might get exasperated as scum and do the same thing just because of what his personality is like. I would be surprised if you did not know this, so I'm keeping an eye on you for now.

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Tim continued to joke post well past the jokevote stage. As usual, not sure how to read that, but for the most part he has so far failed to contribute anything meaningful, whereas in other games he usually has at least some thoughtful content in addition to the silliness.

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I have a scum read on strike. In particular because he's going out of his way to describe scum's potential motivations. For example, consider this post:

Some people are too anxious to give away at their roles. If scum havery a redirector than Dakky's (assuming he is truthful) basically just given them an extra night kill. And don't say I am giving scum ideas, any scum worthy of being scum already should be able to figure this out on their own. You had one joke vote on you and you soft claimed away your role instead of defending yourself.

As strike says, it would be patently obvious to anyone involved that if scum have a redirector, and they knew dakky was a vig, that would be good for them. So why even bother pointing it out? I know that when I play as scum, I often feel an urge to speculate about scum action to counter-signal strongly that I'm not one of them. And also, why is he so worried about someone claiming he's giving scum ideas? That sort of defensiveness in advance comes off as scummy to me.

I am not going to be participating in any potential lynch on Dakky today though. He almost seems like he wants to be lynched.

This is also strange. Anyone paying attention to dakky's play style should know that he loves getting attention.

Jester? Would be a fun surprise. So I am probably reading too much into it.

And everyone knows that Jester is a bastard mod move, so even suggesting it is a pretty damn scum play that is perfect for misdirection. mitch literally bought into it on the next post.

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I have no idea whether dakky softclaimed vig or not. It seems like a play he would make this early in the game, though, knowing how he plays.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I just read Dakky's post as "what?" It is completely nonsensical.

If were talking about Strike- In an hour he went from the above to the below without any intervention from End or I.

havent been in most of the games lately, just a few. so why is dakky scum "again" according to you? (end wing?) i dont see it from the post your referring to.

Perhaps I shouldn't answer for end and wing but suggesting a ludicrous theory about an NYC killer which again would be ludicrous, seems like a distraction. It's an impossible theory (as an NPC killer serves no function so even the suggestion of it as unlikely has no real relevance to anything going on in the game. Stating that NPCS were killed by NPcs is also irrelevant and distracting.

Fper by tim. This post also has no real logic behind it.

Thats an extremely quick change of opinion for the fourth/fifth page of a game for someone with no knowledge apart from their own alignment....

ps - Clearly Mets wasnt scummarizing, he was gathering info!

[strike wolf]

1. If it was painfully obvious to everyone, we wouldn't be having people so desperate to soft claim away their roles.

2. Perhaps you know Dakky's meta better than I but it was comments suggesting "maybe I should be lynched" that spurred the comment that he almost seemed like he wanted to be lynched.

3. @Wing: I don't see the contradiction there. His post made no sense. It drew a what reaction. I expanded later why it was ludicrous. Where's the contradiction?

[madmitch]

It was nice to hear from Mets and what he posted is just about what we knew already except I did not bring up the joat role in fact I had to look it up then I thought it was a wild role, I am not removing my vote yet, lets see what else he sees

[strike wolf]

It was nice to hear from Mets and what he posted is just about what we knew already except I did not bring up the joat role in fact I had to look it up then I thought it was a wild role, I am not removing my vote yet, lets see what else he sees

So you knew and felt that there is something of a case that could be made against me?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

His post made no sense.

Yet somehow you managed to explain the sense in it.

[madmitch]

No not against you, I believe you I do not trust Mets yet.

[strike wolf]

http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/ludicrous

No I posted a theory. A theory that might make sense of why he posted it. It does not change the fact that as a post to theorize the gsme it made no sense.

[madmitch]

I read and understand now, good call

[dakky21]

It was nice to hear from Mets and what he posted is just about what we knew already except I did not bring up the joat role in fact I had to look it up then I thought it was a wild role, I am not removing my vote yet, lets see what else he sees

So you had to Search for the JOAT role, while you played at least few games with JOAT in it?
Scummy to me. FOS on mitch...

[madmitch]

what games had a joat in them?

[madmitch]

SORRY guys in my post where I said joat I meant jester, no wonder I was getting attack ,sorry again

[dakky21]

Well anyway, you played a game with a jester as well... ??

[madmitch]

somedays you are a real pain in the ass Dakky

[dakky21]

somedays you are a real pain in the ass Dakky

Maybe, but you played all games since ever, and I remember there was a Jester in one of them, or it was discussed about it, but you AFAIK you still held your own point... never mind now, this is a different game but still you're sticking to one theory and not saying anything about other theories.

[pancakemix]

I do realize that pancake hasn't been on since I sent out roles. I'll give him a few more days before replacing him.

I'm alive, fret not.

[ptlowe]

I read and understand now, good call

You read and understood a definition.....? Glad to hear it...

[TimWoodbury]

Some thoughts I have so far.

Mars explain your read on IB.
He has only posted 2x
1 time to say opening scene is pure speculation(true but nothing that could show alignment)
And again to call dakky stupid for softclaiming and suggest a policy lynch of dakky.
You even listed him as your first read of town but i just dont see how.
Not that i have a case against him but whats your case for IBs towniness?

The frustration in his post against dakky is why I'm townreading him, both the frustration at the bad play and the frustration in trying to figure out if that play makes him town or scum.

I find it hard to believe mafia would just claim vig for noreason BUT if you are Town and telling the truth just do so instead of acting all coy that you may be lying to try and smooth over a stupid play.

Iron Butterfly's meta always involves getting frustrated at bad play. It's not alignment indicative. He might get exasperated as scum and do the same thing just because of what his personality is like. I would be surprised if you did not know this, so I'm keeping an eye on you for now.

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Tim continued to joke post well past the jokevote stage. As usual, not sure how to read that, but for the most part he has so far failed to contribute anything meaningful, whereas in other games he usually has at least some thoughtful content in addition to the silliness.

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I have a scum read on strike. In particular because he's going out of his way to describe scum's potential motivations. For example, consider this post:

Some people are too anxious to give away at their roles. If scum havery a redirector than Dakky's (assuming he is truthful) basically just given them an extra night kill. And don't say I am giving scum ideas, any scum worthy of being scum already should be able to figure this out on their own. You had one joke vote on you and you soft claimed away your role instead of defending yourself.

As strike says, it would be patently obvious to anyone involved that if scum have a redirector, and they knew dakky was a vig, that would be good for them. So why even bother pointing it out? I know that when I play as scum, I often feel an urge to speculate about scum action to counter-signal strongly that I'm not one of them. And also, why is he so worried about someone claiming he's giving scum ideas? That sort of defensiveness in advance comes off as scummy to me.

I am not going to be participating in any potential lynch on Dakky today though. He almost seems like he wants to be lynched.

This is also strange. Anyone paying attention to dakky's play style should know that he loves getting attention.

Jester? Would be a fun surprise. So I am probably reading too much into it.

And everyone knows that Jester is a bastard mod move, so even suggesting it is a pretty damn scum play that is perfect for misdirection. mitch literally bought into it on the next post.

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I have no idea whether dakky softclaimed vig or not. It seems like a play he would make this early in the game, though, knowing how he plays.

i must admit ive been more quiet this game but thats simply im in a couple others was thinking it would e easy to kkeep everything straight but it actually been blowing my mind so that is on me, with that said im shure im about to die in1 so will be good to go and will be more active.. have sunday off so will e going through and rereading as well then

[TimWoodbury]

what games had a joat in them?

i think one of my very 1st games i was JOAT said i was a protecter and then the next day killed somone and then i got killed

[TimWoodbury]

SORRY guys in my post where I said joat I meant jester, no wonder I was getting attack ,sorry again

guess i shoulda read down 1 post beore responding to last post