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no, probably just drank the kool-aid like the rest of the volunteers on the site... you know, we are all just whiners and complainers with nothing new to say... odd how we have ranted and raged against all of these changes and found nothing but defiance from the jr. mint mod squad and volunteers... now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed, as if they are new!!!! this is freaking unbelievable!!! it is like nobody is listening@!!-Jésus noirConfederateSS wrote:------You've been here since 2007 and are a SoC trainer. You must have missed these threads on subscriptions and C.C..

that's because nobody is listeningowenshooter wrote:this is freaking unbelievable!!! it is like nobody is listening@!!-Jésus noirConfederateSS wrote:------You've been here since 2007 and are a SoC trainer. You must have missed these threads on subscriptions and C.C..
do you understand the words that are comin' outta my mouth?!!



That hides the truth, let's be honest. You cannot purchase premium for another member at the same price as yourself as you have to purchase a set number of credits, which results in leftovers and more money.IcePack wrote:The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread
A SoC trainer doesn't qualify as a volunteer.owenshooter wrote:now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed


To purchase 12 month premium it is exactly the same price for you or someone else, UNLESS you choose to subscribe and get the discount. Yes you have to get more credits etc but that's not what I said, I was specifically addressing the specific number of credits are equal for you or others. Not hiding anything you & everyone else are happy to point out the purchase quantities, I'm talking about whether you have 3500 credits or 10,000 credits in your account, it'll cost the same to get 12 month for you or someone else.iAmCaffeine wrote:That hides the truth, let's be honest. You cannot purchase premium for another member at the same price as yourself as you have to purchase a set number of credits, which results in leftovers and more money.IcePack wrote:The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread
A SoC trainer doesn't qualify as a volunteer.owenshooter wrote:now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed

IcePack wrote:To purchase 12 month premium it is exactly the same price for you or someone else, UNLESS you choose to subscribe and get the discount. Yes you have to get more credits etc but that's not what I said, I was specifically addressing the specific number of credits are equal for you or others. Not hiding anything you & everyone else are happy to point out the purchase quantities, I'm talking about whether you have 3500 credits or 10,000 credits in your account, it'll cost the same to get 12 month for you or someone else.iAmCaffeine wrote:That hides the truth, let's be honest. You cannot purchase premium for another member at the same price as yourself as you have to purchase a set number of credits, which results in leftovers and more money.IcePack wrote:The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread
A SoC trainer doesn't qualify as a volunteer.owenshooter wrote:now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changed
iAmCaffeine wrote: Except you can only buy credits in the following quantities:So, you either buy 3750 credits @ $40 or 5200 @ $50. That is, quite clearly, more expensive. Trying to hide it is pitiful.
- 500
- 1250
- 2500
- 5200
- 11,000
You keep bypassing the actual costs involved and just focusing on the amount of credits required. Bravo.iAmCaffeine wrote:I was aware of that. However, the issue is that to purchase someone else a premium membership has to be done with credits, ergo more money has to be spent. The fact that the "amounts" are the same is irrelevant and misleading when it's clear cost is the primary concern.
If you're not purchasing through credits you pay $29.99. Yet this option isn't available to buy for someone else, which leads me to question the system on the basis it contributes to the ongoing decline in membership.


And you keep missing the fact you're talking about two different products.iAmCaffeine wrote:IcePack wrote:To purchase 12 month premium it is exactly the same price for you or someone else, UNLESS you choose to subscribe and get the discount. Yes you have to get more credits etc but that's not what I said, I was specifically addressing the specific number of credits are equal for you or others. Not hiding anything you & everyone else are happy to point out the purchase quantities, I'm talking about whether you have 3500 credits or 10,000 credits in your account, it'll cost the same to get 12 month for you or someone else.iAmCaffeine wrote:That hides the truth, let's be honest. You cannot purchase premium for another member at the same price as yourself as you have to purchase a set number of credits, which results in leftovers and more money.IcePack wrote:The answer lies in one of your other topics. It's the same price as your premium not more.
More details on your other thread
A SoC trainer doesn't qualify as a volunteer.owenshooter wrote:now, we have a volunteer posting about these practices we have been trying to have changediAmCaffeine wrote: Except you can only buy credits in the following quantities:So, you either buy 3750 credits @ $40 or 5200 @ $50. That is, quite clearly, more expensive. Trying to hide it is pitiful.
- 500
- 1250
- 2500
- 5200
- 11,000
You keep bypassing the actual costs involved and just focusing on the amount of credits required. Bravo.iAmCaffeine wrote:I was aware of that. However, the issue is that to purchase someone else a premium membership has to be done with credits, ergo more money has to be spent. The fact that the "amounts" are the same is irrelevant and misleading when it's clear cost is the primary concern.
If you're not purchasing through credits you pay $29.99. Yet this option isn't available to buy for someone else, which leads me to question the system on the basis it contributes to the ongoing decline in membership.
To purchase premium for somewhere else you spend a minimum of $40, whereas it's $29.99 for yourself. This doesn't take potential existing credits into account, and nor should it.
I highlighted that little word above in case you were getting confused.

