[Exp] CYOC! #4 Endgame! Town wins, you filthy animals

[HotShot53]

Wow, a lot has gone on already today... sorry for not checking in sooner, with the releases of Fallout 4 and Battlefront almost together as they were, I'm afraid a lot of my time seems to have disappeared.

Streaker is the obvious lynch for today, I will wait to actually vote him until we are done talking for the day though. In a situation like this, the chance that streaker is scum and got caught is probably like 80%, chance that something messed with the investigation somewhere (or ptlowe is just plain lying) is probably 20%... and you're not going to get those odds with lynching anyone else.

The way gifting usually works, it's a one-time use gift, and the gifter can't give to the same person the same thing every night, to prevent a situation like this would be, an unkillable cop. So unfortunately I doubt you'll get another investigation tonight ptlowe, but good job on the one you did get (assuming of course steaker is scum, as is likely).

[ptlowe]

Yes....i literally just received a mod note it is one time use....that blows

[TimWoodbury]

is there any chance that it may have been skewed and popped up as guilty because he was directly the cause of one of them dieing? ie he is guilty of causing the death of someone and if it pops innocent it woula just ment he wasnt directly related to the cause of someone dieing??

not shure if the way im wording the above makes since

Funny thing for me is your profile says USA....how are you so damn bad at english

because the american school system in maine (my state) sucks major ass

[pancakemix]

Well if that spyglass is right you did a lot of good for us. I am basically an unkillable cop now.

If spyglass is accurate and reuseable and you are "shoot first" PGO town has an excellent shot at winning.
By the time lylo comes you will have investigated everyone,especially if there is a regular cop as well.
If spyglass is correct,scum likely kills me before i visit anyone else
If spyglass is incorrect town likely kills me(and/or you pt)for the bad info
Hurrah!

I doubt it was false. Streaker actions kind of confirm our theory also if not then pcm is scum and I would think he would be next target

Uhh how exactly?

Vig didn't have his gun, the opening post strongly suggest vig didn't shoot. And ofcourse I used my action, how else do we find out what it does? I explained why I think it turned your power into a kill. Might as well have blocked you, or killed you, or whatever. And I would have been fine with either of those.

Ehh I tend not to put much stock in these things but I'll concede that's plausible.

Yeah, but why use the power that makes kills? Of the three you listed, none seem town conducive anyway. I have a hard time disbelieving PT's spyglass at this point...

Streaker's either town and is resigned to his defeat or scum playing a gambit. Either way, he's right: he's got to go.

[TheForgivenOne]

Vote Count:

metsfanmax - strike wolf, madmitch (2)
streaker - ptlowe, Marashu, Iron Butterfly, Endgame422, virus90 (5) L-2

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is set for December 5th.

[madmitch]

WOW you got a 3rd party and a PGO voting for Streaker, I.B. , Mars, how did you let these two nut cases convince you guys and finally Virus ,shit I did not even remember that you were in this game and then poof you appear and alas Streaker is scum well thanks for all your info

[TimWoodbury]

wait virus is in this game whees he been??? heck thin hes only posted what twice??

[Streaker]

Streaker if you are indeed town,pushing a lynch on me tomorrow is just plain dumb.(unless you think im actually mafia framer or something)
I think there are 2 scum,each of which has a killing action. Hence 2 deaths in opening scene and 2 deaths today.
If you get lynched and scum kill 2 more townies tonight its 9 left.
If they lynch me and scum kill another 2 townies its 6 left and essentially lylo. Hell,if there are 3 scum here its game over unless town manages to block a kill(unlikely since SOMEONE was deadset on lynching town doc day one and BP townie is already claimed)

Not true. A mafia faction with double kill? Really? I think something else caused the second kill. And lets not forget you arenot confirmed 3rd party town aligned.
You are just trying to scare town at this point, i hope the rest pick up on this as well.

[ptlowe]

WOW you got a 3rd party and a PGO voting for Streaker, I.B. , Mars, how did you let these two nut cases convince you guys and finally Virus ,shit I did not even remember that you were in this game and then poof you appear and alas Streaker is scum well thanks for all your info

Your one to talk.

[Iron Butterfly]

WOW you got a 3rd party and a PGO voting for Streaker, I.B. , Mars, how did you let these two nut cases convince you guys and finally Virus ,shit I did not even remember that you were in this game and then poof you appear and alas Streaker is scum well thanks for all your info

So what exactly is your logic for voting Mets over Streaker? With Streaker we have A confirmed mafia due to an investigation. Now granted the investigation due to a one shot item, which means we have a gifter character/role. Streaker needs to be lynched give us information. Are these gifts good or bad IE can be trusted.

Mitch what is your argument for voting Mets? Why are these guys nutcases for voting on the best evidence we have today?

[ptlowe]

WOW you got a 3rd party and a PGO voting for Streaker, I.B. , Mars, how did you let these two nut cases convince you guys and finally Virus ,shit I did not even remember that you were in this game and then poof you appear and alas Streaker is scum well thanks for all your info

So what exactly is your logic for voting Mets over Streaker? With Streaker we have A confirmed mafia due to an investigation. Now granted the investigation due to a one shot item, which means we have a gifter character/role. Streaker needs to be lynched give us information. Are these gifts good or bad IE can be trusted.

Mitch what is your argument for voting Mets? Why are these guys nutcases for voting on the best evidence we have today?

I don't know if I would read too much into it unless he has Intel as well from his abilities then he should speak up.

[madmitch]

Who was highly present on the benga lynch? Mets. Who used flawed logic in his approach to the Benga lynch? Mets. Who did most of this after Benga claimed town doc? Mets.

This is 1 reason why I voted Mets, and I just have a gut feeling that Streker is telling the truth even if his take on Mets is different than mine

[Iron Butterfly]

Not sure I follow your logic ptlowe.

[Streaker]

Well if that spyglass is right you did a lot of good for us. I am basically an unkillable cop now.

If spyglass is accurate and reuseable and you are "shoot first" PGO town has an excellent shot at winning.
By the time lylo comes you will have investigated everyone,especially if there is a regular cop as well.
If spyglass is correct,scum likely kills me before i visit anyone else
If spyglass is incorrect town likely kills me(and/or you pt)for the bad info
Hurrah!

I doubt it was false. Streaker actions kind of confirm our theory also if not then pcm is scum and I would think he would be next target

Uhh how exactly?

Vig didn't have his gun, the opening post strongly suggest vig didn't shoot. And ofcourse I used my action, how else do we find out what it does? I explained why I think it turned your power into a kill. Might as well have blocked you, or killed you, or whatever. And I would have been fine with either of those.

Ehh I tend not to put much stock in these things but I'll concede that's plausible.

Yeah, but why use the power that makes kills? Of the three you listed, none seem town conducive anyway. I have a hard time disbelieving PT's spyglass at this point...

Streaker's either town and is resigned to his defeat or scum playing a gambit. Either way, he's right: he's got to go.

It's a bit harsh calling me out like that, since I clearly stated I did NOT know what my power would do. Only that the effects are 'more powerfull' equal to position. And of what 3 I listed? You seem to have misread my claim. I was speculating. I don't know that I can do those things, it's what I think it might do.

Why do you think I resigned?
I love ptlowe's logic of when I flip town, we lynch pcm next. Not.

Now for the fun part: everyone is saying 'Streaker must be lynched, but we better wait until we have more information, only to continue and post nothing of substance. This day is being wasted, why is nobody calling Endgame out on his posts?

[madmitch]

Why is everyone in such a big rush to lynch ? We have until the 5th, lots of time to look over the posts and make sure the right person gets hung. I am a bit worried about PT wanting to know my abilities and about End , especially being 3rd party and not really being confirmed if he is leaning to help town or not? It might be better to get rid of him before he changes sides, I will have to give this some more thought/

[Streaker]

Well if that spyglass is right you did a lot of good for us. I am basically an unkillable cop now.

If spyglass is accurate and reuseable and you are "shoot first" PGO town has an excellent shot at winning.
By the time lylo comes you will have investigated everyone,especially if there is a regular cop as well.
If spyglass is correct,scum likely kills me before i visit anyone else
If spyglass is incorrect town likely kills me(and/or you pt)for the bad info
Hurrah!

I doubt it was false. Streaker actions kind of confirm our theory also if not then pcm is scum and I would think he would be next target

What actions by me confirm your theory?

vote streaker
@ streaker Contradictions man, if i was tim i wood have voted benga to, to save the own arse. it takes a lot of trust and williningness to save the doc by not making that move. Anyone can be blamed for the lynch on benga, but of all these Tim is the one that makes most sense to me to vote him, he didnt really have another option.
Also you think tim should be lynched, ok, but that is what i have been saying day 1, yet you see me as probably scummy. these 2 statements are hard to combine in my mind.

Tim thinks I'm scummy for voting a claimed doc, yet did so himself. But if you think this makes sense, sure.

who else would i vote when it was me or him?

So you mean it's better that you survive instead of the doc.

Before you answer with 'it should be me today', you have a cop check. The only way for town to truly know it's worth something, I have to go. I don't want to, but in this case I simply agree to that play.
I would love to see someone else lynched, but honestly don't see how you can.

I understand now. Just surprised you wouldn't push pcm over tim.

This does NOT hold up anymore. Lynching me to prove the worth of the spyglass means nothing, as it was a 1-time use. Now that it's confirmed it was gifted by a 3rd-party, I don't know why you are giving it that much value.

WOW you got a 3rd party and a PGO voting for Streaker, I.B. , Mars, how did you let these two nut cases convince you guys and finally Virus ,shit I did not even remember that you were in this game and then poof you appear and alas Streaker is scum well thanks for all your info

So what exactly is your logic for voting Mets over Streaker? With Streaker we have A confirmed mafia due to an investigation. Now granted the investigation due to a one shot item, which means we have a gifter character/role. Streaker needs to be lynched give us information. Are these gifts good or bad IE can be trusted.

Mitch what is your argument for voting Mets? Why are these guys nutcases for voting on the best evidence we have today?

This is simply not true... I am not confirmed mafia, and I have not been cop-checked (this implies a TOWN cop investigates me and has a guilty result). You have a '3rd party' cop check, that says I'm scum. One which very possibly has 'side effects'.
You say here you want to (risk) lynching a townie to confirm the role of a 3rd party. How does that make sense?

You have a dubious check on me, vs a solid case on Tim (and a worthy 3rd-part lynch). Yet I'm the one on the block? Come on town wake the hell up.

[Streaker]

Vote Tim

[Endgame422]

First off streaker its not a "confirmed 3rd party check."
Im speculating that my visit resulted in pt getting the spyglass,not claiming it.
I never said i was gifter only that i visited pt,i have no way of knowing if pt even got a spyglass for all i know hes scum just making it up so he can pin it on me tomorrow.
And you seem desperare streaker,you didnt like the tim case yesterday(you voted claimed doc over it) what changed?

[Endgame422]

Also as to "calling me out"
If your town and 2 more townies die tonight town simply cannot afford to lynch me if they want to win.
Thats not me trying to scare town thats just the straight-up truth,although i dont really believe your town so its kind of a moot point.

[Streaker]

First off streaker its not a "confirmed 3rd party check."
Im speculating that my visit resulted in pt getting the spyglass,not claiming it.
I never said i was gifter only that i visited pt,i have no way of knowing if pt even got a spyglass for all i know hes scum just making it up so he can pin it on me tomorrow.
And you seem desperare streaker,you didnt like the tim case yesterday(you voted claimed doc over it) what changed?

What changed? We killed the wrong one. How can you NOT go back to the other prime suspect? It's disturbing nobody else is looking. Also, I have elaborated on why Tim now in previous posts, I will not repeat it.

And hell yes, I am desperate. I'm about to be lynched, and you will have almost no information to go with it because nobody is dicussing.

[Metsfanmax]

First off streaker its not a "confirmed 3rd party check."
Im speculating that my visit resulted in pt getting the spyglass,not claiming it.
I never said i was gifter only that i visited pt,i have no way of knowing if pt even got a spyglass for all i know hes scum just making it up so he can pin it on me tomorrow.
And you seem desperare streaker,you didnt like the tim case yesterday(you voted claimed doc over it) what changed?

This spy glass sounds like the sort of thing you don't just get by accident. If Endgame didn't intend to give it to him, it probably wasn't Endgame's action. And while I admire Streaker's cleverness in trying to save himself, I certainly am not going to stand by and let that happen.

Vote Streaker

[virus90]

my vote is already there but i agree, think its a inevitable lynch, and i believe its the right choice.

[madmitch]

well I hope you are right

[Endgame422]

What changed? We killed the wrong one. How can you NOT go back to the other prime suspect? It's disturbing nobody else is looking. Also, I have elaborated on why Tim now in previous posts, I will not repeat it.

First off i havent seen anything from you regarding a case on tim. Perhaps it was lost or i missed something but there was definetly not a major case on tim from you.

Vote Tim

This was the entire post where you voted tim,the previous post just basically rolefishs tim by asking if it was better for him or doc to die.
Secondly you say its disturbing noone is looking but cant be bothered to provide any kind of case?

[Streaker]

First off streaker its not a "confirmed 3rd party check."
Im speculating that my visit resulted in pt getting the spyglass,not claiming it.
I never said i was gifter only that i visited pt,i have no way of knowing if pt even got a spyglass for all i know hes scum just making it up so he can pin it on me tomorrow.
And you seem desperare streaker,you didnt like the tim case yesterday(you voted claimed doc over it) what changed?

This spy glass sounds like the sort of thing you don't just get by accident. If Endgame didn't intend to give it to him, it probably wasn't Endgame's action. And while I admire Streaker's cleverness in trying to save himself, I certainly am not going to stand by and let that happen.

Vote Streaker

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my vote is already there but i agree, think its a inevitable lynch, and i believe its the right choice.

And yet you fail to give a SINGLE reason why. Or participated in any kind of discussion today. Here is the recap of virus on
D1: .....
D2: Vote streaker. My vote is on him now. I played the game. .....

Once again, this is HP all over again. Claimed third party leading town.