[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[the white rose]

look storr, i know the game is not a simple game. i cannot give an example based on this game cos i do not know what roles are or are not in play.

suffice to say, do you really want the doc to identify himself to scum? if your mass claim happens then that is what would happen.

Any townie would be keen to keep the doc hidden so that he can continue to protect townies at night, and yet you want him to say, hey look scum, i am the doc......hmmm

[StorrZerg]

look storr, i know the game is not a simple game. i cannot give an example based on this game cos i do not know what roles are or are not in play.

suffice to say, do you really want the doc to identify himself to scum? if your mass claim happens then that is what would happen.

Any townie would be keen to keep the doc hidden so that he can continue to protect townies at night, and yet you want him to say, hey look scum, i am the doc......hmmm

So in your experience how often has the doc had correct saves? Sure its good to keep the doc hidden, less of a chance to be found. i'm expressing interest in breaking the game, to just well win. i mean thats my objective eliminate anti town. Whats to say we dont have several protection roles? We could have a jail keeper? We could have An assortment of roles.

If the doc claims after EVERYONE mass claims, it becomes a race to kill mafia before they get to even with town. Something that im not worried about since, im not scared of their ability to hide their roles, within town. Not to mention being able to coordinate town roles in mass to get results.

Thing is i gave a pretty detailed post on why i want to mass claim. Brought up previous games streakers posted. Many people think they are more important in this game because they are roles. When in reality they are not. Thing is, i've also linked end games when i was mafia, stating that mass claiming would have ensured mafia loss. I've done it in many other games as town as well. So with that, do you still read it as a scummy action from me?

[Falkomagno]

I dont think we can get much more in this day. I re read the posts of Whatsausage isolated, and his defense is weak. Specially I have problems with his second power, where now it only takes 7 instead of 14 people to lynch. This is clearly a rule that benefits scum. He also didn't appear anymore.

unvote - Vote whatsausage

[StorrZerg]

what did you understand about waiting for him to respond?

[StorrZerg]

not to mention you can't even read what his power does

[Iron Butterfly]

I'll repost this. If you have already replied, IB, I apologise. I couldn't find it, though. Could you indulge me, please?

Wing wrote "Note that Sausage didnt claim town, so Benga's investigation that Sausage is Anti Town stands up. IB is it possible that Sausage is third party based on the exact phrasing of your investigation result? (potentially survivor by the sounds of it.)"

Very much so. My result was quite specific with no room for interpretation.

"The Magic 8 ball say's....Town"

This seems contradictory... Am I reading this wrongly or are you saying that it is indeed possible that he is 3rd party only to say that the magic 8-ball says he's town and not 3rd party?

The reason I find it worth reposting is because others have stated that IB has made several ambiguous statements.

The "very much so" Is what makes the statement ambiguous.My apologies. I am not sure what I was thinking at the time but I suspect my thinking was such that if he was third party the investigation could balance out.He is not mafia he is not Town. If his role is as he claims But is lying about alignment and is indeed third party that could be the reason for conflicting investigations. Just a theory on my part.

now in regards to my investigation results, those are exactly as stated. There is no room for interpretation.

I am curious now..."others have stated that I made several ambiguous statements" So with what we have on the record YOU do not say I have made several ambiguous statements you choose to say other people say.

Do YOU THINK I made several ambiguous statements? If so what were they? I repeated my self so many Damn times day one on I was beginning to think people were willfully stupid.

I also do not want this to be a 5 page argument on semantics. If you think I have been ambiguous then say so and show us so but don't pull the "'other people say card"

[AladdinSane]

This is where you sheer inexperience shines through. This applies to several others. Just because one makes a point of accusing someone does not mean it is a viable argument. Several people keep popping in such as DJ and say such and such seem to be scum as if it means something. Scum tells are an accumulation, a record if you will,of things such as vote patterns, contributions, logic ect. As the game wears on and people start to flip patterns and behaviors become even MORE apparent.

Right. Scum reads are an ackumulation. I get that. So why are people expecting detailed reeds on D2? That is wot I don't quite get. I'm tinking we linch WhatSausage (I speled ir rite just for Storr), see what he flips, see what the nite and morning brings, and wot Mitch flips wen he dies, and how peeple vote for D2, and we'll have a lot more to go on. Rite now, the most aparent ting to me is that Wing (again, for Storr), Storr, and prob yerself and maybe PT are inkreesingly looking like a bloc. Why, for example, haven't you and Storr even addressed the blatant inconsistency i found in Wing's posts about the usefulness or not of copchecks? Isn't that exackly the kind of ting you are asking peeple to post about?

I'm happy to post more reeds as and wen I have time, but, you know, we're at 48 pages awready and trorling threw that takes time. Maybe it is time to hamer WhatSausage, and end D2, sinse he dozent seem inclined to reply further. Then we can get orn wid teh game. Just a sujesjun.

In fact I do not fully believe Storr is cleared as Town simply because he got a Town investigation BUT his play so far suggests Town.

Here you are doing wot you ackuse others of doing. Reesons, pleese.

There is a whole game within a game that needs to be played and understood. You are on your second game and seem to know what you speak and yet know jack shit. A little knowledge is dangerous.

A person can look scummy to one person. The key is convincing others that they are scum. Something DJ and you do not know how to do. You seem to think that making a million posts and commenting like you know what you speak about somehow is a good thing. You seem to think if you through enough poop on the wall something will eventually stick.

Firt, pleese drop the condescending tone; it is anoying and geting old fast. Wanna talk about meta? Okay, in our firt game together, you didn't use that tone. Given, you were NKed on N1, but you seemed like a different playa in that game. And agin you criticise me for sumting Wing has been blatantly doing - repeetedly accusing peeple (mainly me and TWR) ad norseum, without giving reesons - throwing lots of mud and hoping sum wil stick - and yet not a word from you about him doing this.

Can you see why peeple are tinking you guys are all working together? You are giving eech other passes in a way that your play does not warrant.

[AladdinSane]

So yeh I do get to write off an alleged link made by a plyer who has contributed absolutely nothing other then to say that Wing and Storr are tied. I base my answer based on his contribution AND Meta. I have been playing with these two for many games and are familiar with their meta and how they play.

Nope. We need details, pleese. Wot eggzackly is it about there Meta and contribushuns that makes you tink they arnt in cahoots? I take it that you want to go on rekord as saying you beleeve Wing and Storr are NOT in scummy colaborashun together?

In fact I do not fully believe Storr is cleared as Town simply because he got a Town investigation BUT his play so far suggests Town.

Details pleese. How does Storr's play sugest Town? Do you, at dis moment, support his persistent push for massclaim? Do you tink he ort to be the wun to fullclaim first, since he wants others to do so? If not, why not? Why do you tink he has becum very hostile toward me as soon as I started suggesting he was acting skummy? Erlier, when I was reeding him as slitely Town, he wasn't hostile toward me at all. it was a pretty radical change in atitude.

[AladdinSane]

what did you understand about waiting for him to respond?

not to mention you can't even read what his power does

Storr, wot exactly are we waiting for frum WhatSausage now? You seem orfully keen to delay the linch on him as long as possibul. Are you hoping to divert the linch on him to sumwun else (me, perhaps?).

Ackshually, maybe you can tel me sumting, and I ask this as an inexperiensed playa: Wot are the possible implikations of this group he talks about? Does it just mean he cood possibly communicate with them sekretly, or is there some chance he can be rekruted by them? We dont need God-like powers in anti-Town hands (if they are not alreddy).

I've been reeding about Kults (Mafiascum.net): "The Cult is a third-party group that seeks to recruit players into itself. The recruitment is done by a Cult Leader who is typically the only member of the Cult at the beginning of the game. At Night, it can recruit players into the Cult; these players henceforth lose their previous role identities and become Cultists. The Cult wins when it comprises half of the player list, at which time it controls the lynch and trivializes the rest of the game.

Cultists usually do not have the ability to recruit players, so if the Cult Leader dies, the Cultists are defenseless but must survive until they attain a majority. This can be difficult to do, especially if the Cult Leader only lives long enough to recruit one Cultist.

It is not unheard of for Cult and Cult Leader to be aliases of Masonry and Masonizer respectively, but this interpretation is quite outdated given the notoriety Cults have achieved."

Scary stuff! From wot I unnerstand, WhatSausage cood potenshally have been recrooted, although I regard this as unlikely since he wood most likely have kept it a sekret if dis was the case.

I've also been reeding about Masons (again, MafiaScum.net):

"Masons are a group of players who can speak to each other privately and know that everyone in their group is not a member of the Mafia. Whether the Masons' ability to privately communicate can be used at any time or at Night only is up to the moderator's discretion. The number of Masons can vary from game to game, and it is not impossible for there to exist separate Mason groups within the same game.

In Werewolf flavor, these are called Monks (most notably in the Open Setup Masons and Monks).

If there is one Mason, there is always another. A single Mason is equivalent to an Innocent Child.

Masons are the central feature in the Open Setup Friends and Enemies.
Variations

The Mason role has generated a fair amount of controversy and a few offshoots. Be sure you ask the moderator what precisely it means to be a Mason, as all of the below have been known to simply be called "Mason".

Most notoriously, some moderators will introduce Mafia-aligned Masons, taking the term "Mason" to imply that it is probable that the other Masons are Town-aligned, and not absolute. These nonconfirmed Masons are supposed to be middling in certainty between Neighbors (see below) and confirmed Masons; however, this is impossible to mathematically verify. Alternatively, moderators may introduce Werewolves into Masonries (and likewise Mafia members into Monasteries) without bastardry, as the definition of a Mason or Monk is that they are not confirmed to be a member of a specific non-Town faction."

So, other posibilities are the group is Masons or Mafia Masons. Is that rite? The three possibilities are Kult, mason, Mafia mason? Any others?

Also, would WhatSausage know if he was rekrooted by a Kult?

Anyone else, pleese feel free to anser dese questions to.

[AladdinSane]

Wing, Storr, IB, anyone - I wood reely appreshiate your thoughts on this blatant change of opinion. It reeds to me like an attempt to downplay my post on the importance of verifying copchecks. Storr, IB: why arnt you concerned about dis?

Okay Ginkapo, let's talk about inconsistency. In yore neckst-to-useless "reeds", you said:

Mitch and dj need copchecking as i will never get a good read on em.

But just a littul later, when I posted on the importance of verifying copchecks, he does a compeat about-face and says:

Aladdin. Disregard copchecks as they are a crutch,

BAM!!! So, yer obviusly changing yer opinion to soot yore campayne agenst me. Yool just say anyfink to try to make me look bad, won't you? Gonna be fun wotching you squerm out of dis one.

[AladdinSane]

As i go through to murder your reads AladdinSane, I'll just respond to some advice from IB.

"Murder", huh? Inneresting choice of words. Isent that sumthink that Mafia scum do?

What do you hope to accomplish with pressure on me? I know you can't get me lynched.

How can you posibly no that?

The only way i'm claiming is if a vig threatens to shoot me today.

Fine, don't claim. I don't care. But be consistunt and don't press others to claym, esp. massclaim.

Also, have you heard of a term called "town circle" before? Some people play the game by finding people they trust, and lynching outside of that group. Mafia get really panicky when they can't sneak into these circles. Attempting to break an early bond like this isn't going to help anyone on day 2, Specially when we have so many people sliding under the radar...

Okay, so who do you trust, and why? It's D2 - isent it a bit erly to be trusting peeple?


Let's end the massive wankathon of critiquing each others' erlier reeds and start afresh. WING, STORR, IB: since you guys orl bang on about how experiensed you are, and Storr at least seems to want a leedership roll, how about this - show the rest of us how it is done. Eech of you post yer updated list of Top 5 Twon and Scum reeds, complete with sufficient reesoning and evidence to bak them up. Show us the appropriate standard to aim at. If you do that, I will follow soot, aiming to emulate the standard of eggsellence you will,, I am confident, have domonstrated. Pleese be sure to take into ackount that Benga's, PtLowe's, and the Magic 8 borl's accuracy/alinement/sanity are all yet to be verified.

BTW, Storr, if it helps with teh speling thing, I can reveel that one rocket from a mod used the phrase "go full dork on your PR". I'll tone it down as mutch as I dare, but I have orleady had too wornings. I dont reely unnerstand why it is sutch a problem for peeple. I dont tink i wood have any problem reeding it if sumwun else was doing it, nor wood I find it annoying, knowing about the PR. If you have some sort of reading deficiency such as dyslexia that mite make it moor dificult to read it, I suggest you bring this to the attention of the mods, and they wil hopefully allow me to drop it.

[AladdinSane]

DIS IS A REPOST. TEH ORIGINAL CONTAINS LONG QUOTES FROM MAFIASUM.NET AND LOOKED DIFFICULT TO READ. I'VE THEREFOUR HILITED THE QUOTES IN PINK. YORE WELCUM.

what did you understand about waiting for him to respond?

not to mention you can't even read what his power does

Storr, wot exactly are we waiting for frum WhatSausage now? You seem orfully keen to delay the linch on him as long as possibul. Are you hoping to divert the linch on him to sumwun else (me, perhaps?).

Ackshually, maybe you can tel me sumting, and I ask this as an inexperiensed playa: Wot are the possible implikations of this group he talks about? Does it just mean he cood possibly communicate with them sekretly, or is there some chance he can be rekruted by them? We dont need God-like powers in anti-Town hands (if they are not alreddy).

I've been reeding about Kults (Mafiascum.net): "The Cult is a third-party group that seeks to recruit players into itself. The recruitment is done by a Cult Leader who is typically the only member of the Cult at the beginning of the game. At Night, it can recruit players into the Cult; these players henceforth lose their previous role identities and become Cultists. The Cult wins when it comprises half of the player list, at which time it controls the lynch and trivializes the rest of the game.

Cultists usually do not have the ability to recruit players, so if the Cult Leader dies, the Cultists are defenseless but must survive until they attain a majority. This can be difficult to do, especially if the Cult Leader only lives long enough to recruit one Cultist.

It is not unheard of for Cult and Cult Leader to be aliases of Masonry and Masonizer respectively, but this interpretation is quite outdated given the notoriety Cults have achieved."

Scary stuff! From wot I unnerstand, WhatSausage cood potenshally have been recrooted, although I regard this as unlikely since he wood most likely have kept it a sekret if dis was the case.

I've also been reeding about Masons (again, MafiaScum.net):

"Masons are a group of players who can speak to each other privately and know that everyone in their group is not a member of the Mafia. Whether the Masons' ability to privately communicate can be used at any time or at Night only is up to the moderator's discretion. The number of Masons can vary from game to game, and it is not impossible for there to exist separate Mason groups within the same game.

In Werewolf flavor, these are called Monks (most notably in the Open Setup Masons and Monks).

If there is one Mason, there is always another. A single Mason is equivalent to an Innocent Child.

Masons are the central feature in the Open Setup Friends and Enemies.
Variations

The Mason role has generated a fair amount of controversy and a few offshoots. Be sure you ask the moderator what precisely it means to be a Mason, as all of the below have been known to simply be called "Mason".

Most notoriously, some moderators will introduce Mafia-aligned Masons, taking the term "Mason" to imply that it is probable that the other Masons are Town-aligned, and not absolute. These nonconfirmed Masons are supposed to be middling in certainty between Neighbors (see below) and confirmed Masons; however, this is impossible to mathematically verify. Alternatively, moderators may introduce Werewolves into Masonries (and likewise Mafia members into Monasteries) without bastardry, as the definition of a Mason or Monk is that they are not confirmed to be a member of a specific non-Town faction."

So, other posibilities are the group is Masons or Mafia Masons. Is that rite? The three possibilities are Kult, mason, Mafia mason? Any others?

Also, would WhatSausage know if he was rekrooted by a Kult?

Anyone else, pleese feel free to anser dese questions to.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

So why are people expecting detailed reeds on D2?

Good question, why ate you asking for detailed reads, Storr and I have just been asking for reads.

Wing, Storr, IB, anyone - I wood reely appreshiate your thoughts on this blatant change of opinion. It reeds to me like an attempt to downplay my post on the importance of verifying copchecks. Storr, IB: why arnt you concerned about dis?

Okay Ginkapo, let's talk about inconsistency. In yore neckst-to-useless "reeds", you said:

Mitch and dj need copchecking as i will never get a good read on em.

But just a littul later, when I posted on the importance of verifying copchecks, he does a compeat about-face and says:

Aladdin. Disregard copchecks as they are a crutch,

BAM!!! So, yer obviusly changing yer opinion to soot yore campayne agenst me. Yool just say anyfink to try to make me look bad, won't you? Gonna be fun wotching you squerm out of dis one.

Copchecks are useless currently, come day 5 or so when a cop has been calibrated I would like to know Mitchs and DJs alignment. Its ok I have a long enough list of scum to keep me busy lynching till then.

I am not going to repost my reads again, if you choose not to read that is not my problem.

Its amazing to say this, but you are responsible for most of the spam in this game dragging us to so many pages. Its amazing as thats normally me, but you have surpassed me by a country mile. Anyone who makes that many posts cannot complain about game length.

You have gone full dork, never go full dork.

[the white rose]

look storr, i know the game is not a simple game. i cannot give an example based on this game cos i do not know what roles are or are not in play.

suffice to say, do you really want the doc to identify himself to scum? if your mass claim happens then that is what would happen.

Any townie would be keen to keep the doc hidden so that he can continue to protect townies at night, and yet you want him to say, hey look scum, i am the doc......hmmm

So in your experience how often has the doc had correct saves? Sure its good to keep the doc hidden, less of a chance to be found. i'm expressing interest in breaking the game, to just well win. i mean thats my objective eliminate anti town. Whats to say we dont have several protection roles? We could have a jail keeper? We could have An assortment of roles.

If the doc claims after EVERYONE mass claims, it becomes a race to kill mafia before they get to even with town. Something that im not worried about since, im not scared of their ability to hide their roles, within town. Not to mention being able to coordinate town roles in mass to get results.

Thing is i gave a pretty detailed post on why i want to mass claim. Brought up previous games streakers posted. Many people think they are more important in this game because they are roles. When in reality they are not. Thing is, i've also linked end games when i was mafia, stating that mass claiming would have ensured mafia loss. I've done it in many other games as town as well. So with that, do you still read it as a scummy action from me?

this would work fine so long as everyone tells the truth, but do you really expect mafia to claim mafia?

the upshot of it all is, that we still would not know who mafia was as guess what, i think they may lie and claim town.....and yet mafia get to know exactly who to kill at night. they will be discussing tonight who they think is the real cop and who they think is the doc, they will make their best guess and try to kill them, you are suggesting that we take away their guesswork and tell scum who the most dangerous townies are.....now if that is not scum, hell, i do not know what is.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Btw White Rose. I quite liked your reads, didnt agree with them, but liked the effort you put into them. Doesnt mean I read you as town, but neither do I want to rush a lynch on you.

As for mass claiming, this game has multiple factions which is what makes it different. Mafia wont know exactly who is town either, just who is nonmafia, which they already know.

[Iron Butterfly]

As i go through to murder your reads AladdinSane, I'll just respond to some advice from IB.

"Murder", huh? Inneresting choice of words. Isent that sumthink that Mafia scum do?

What do you hope to accomplish with pressure on me? I know you can't get me lynched.

How can you posibly no that?

The only way i'm claiming is if a vig threatens to shoot me today.

Fine, don't claim. I don't care. But be consistunt and don't press others to claym, esp. massclaim.

Also, have you heard of a term called "town circle" before? Some people play the game by finding people they trust, and lynching outside of that group. Mafia get really panicky when they can't sneak into these circles. Attempting to break an early bond like this isn't going to help anyone on day 2, Specially when we have so many people sliding under the radar...

Okay, so who do you trust, and why? It's D2 - isent it a bit erly to be trusting peeple?


Let's end the massive wankathon of critiquing each others' erlier reeds and start afresh. WING, STORR, IB: since you guys orl bang on about how experiensed you are, and Storr at least seems to want a leedership roll, how about this - show the rest of us how it is done. Eech of you post yer updated list of Top 5 Twon and Scum reeds, complete with sufficient reesoning and evidence to bak them up. Show us the appropriate standard to aim at. If you do that, I will follow soot, aiming to emulate the standard of eggsellence you will,, I am confident, have domonstrated. Pleese be sure to take into ackount that Benga's, PtLowe's, and the Magic 8 borl's accuracy/alinement/sanity are all yet to be verified.

BTW, Storr, if it helps with teh speling thing, I can reveel that one rocket from a mod used the phrase "go full dork on your PR". I'll tone it down as mutch as I dare, but I have orleady had too wornings. I dont reely unnerstand why it is sutch a problem for peeple. I dont tink i wood have any problem reeding it if sumwun else was doing it, nor wood I find it annoying, knowing about the PR. If you have some sort of reading deficiency such as dyslexia that mite make it moor dificult to read it, I suggest you bring this to the attention of the mods, and they wil hopefully allow me to drop it.

A prime example of a post that just takes up space and wastes people time. "Show the rest of us how it is done". Your so busy talking you do not know how to listen.

[DJPatrick]

i'M listening not talking UNVOTE VOTE STORR

[Iron Butterfly]

i'M listening not talking UNVOTE VOTE STORR

Scummy

[rizky_biznezz]

I'm trying to remain as active as i can but there is so much to go thru.. It seems to be heavily surrounding store/wing and Aladdin which is good that there is a lot of discussion going on but has me a little worried that scum is laying low and hiding out quite easily amongst the other 20 plus players.. Deadline isnt far away still a lot of quiet ppl

[the white rose]

Btw White Rose. I quite liked your reads, didnt agree with them, but liked the effort you put into them. Doesnt mean I read you as town, but neither do I want to rush a lynch on you.

As for mass claiming, this game has multiple factions which is what makes it different. Mafia wont know exactly who is town either, just who is nonmafia, which they already know.

maybe its because i am a noob or something, but i still do not get how town pr's claiming can be anything but bad for town.

perhaps you could explain what advantage town has if the doc claims? i just do not get it. Why on earth would we want to tell scum who the doc is?

I understand multiple factions, but if a non-scum were to claim doc, how could they be anything but anti-scum?

No, I have made up my mind, Storr is mafia and anyone else who tries to justify mass claiming must also be mafia, i certainly will not be telling mafia what my role is.

[the white rose]

I'm trying to remain as active as i can but there is so much to go thru.. It seems to be heavily surrounding store/wing and Aladdin which is good that there is a lot of discussion going on but has me a little worried that scum is laying low and hiding out quite easily amongst the other 20 plus players.. Deadline isnt far away still a lot of quiet ppl

rizky, i agree with you. sausage will be lynched today, but tomorrow we should take a look at the non-posters.

whatever cops we have should be encouraged to investigate those not posting much.

[StorrZerg]

this would work fine so long as everyone tells the truth, but do you really expect mafia to claim mafia?

the upshot of it all is, that we still would not know who mafia was as guess what, i think they may lie and claim town.....and yet mafia get to know exactly who to kill at night. they will be discussing tonight who they think is the real cop and who they think is the doc, they will make their best guess and try to kill them, you are suggesting that we take away their guesswork and tell scum who the most dangerous townies are.....now if that is not scum, hell, i do not know what is.

zzz of course im not expecting them to claim mafia... Im expecting it to be able to figure out who is mafia or scum based on claims, activity in game, reading them, and coordinating town powers.
sigh... this conversation is over for now. we can bring it back up on day 3. You're not actually responding to the case that I made, and instead just keep stating how scared you are and h ow fearful you are of doing a mass claim, you have never done one you have no idea whats going on and are unwilling to see reason.

[StorrZerg]

Storr, wot exactly are we waiting for frum WhatSausage now? You seem orfully keen to delay the linch on him as long as possibul. Are you hoping to divert the linch on him to sumwun else (me, perhaps?).

Well if you noticed, whatsausage never posted consistently... so it was very likely regardless of his alignment that he would show up one last time before deadline... Additionally, more time doesn't hurt town, it allows for more discussion. Which has come to show now several people ignoring this, and just attempting to end the day.

Ackshually, maybe you can tel me sumting, and I ask this as an inexperiensed playa: Wot are the possible implikations of this group he talks about? Does it just mean he cood possibly communicate with them sekretly, or is there some chance he can be rekruted by them? We dont need God-like powers in anti-Town hands (if they are not alreddy).

the group is likely antitown in meaning since it hasn't been used. Or more likely it contains inactive people that haven't posted. Whatsausage admitted that he hasn't even attempted to talk in the group. I don't like that. One should only worry about a cult, if some evidence comes to light of one. Till then just hunt for scummy people and anti town.


Regarding wing comment on cop checks. He states latter that the cop checks can be "decoded" latter in the game. He isnt' expecting a result asap to know about deg/mitch, just that he would like that help so that latter in the game when a cops sanity/power is confirmed one can know about those players. He isn't contradicting himself.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

i'M listening not talking UNVOTE VOTE STORR

Scummy

Yup, I take it back, we dont need a cop check on dj. Aladdin was accused of not listening, dj feels threatened.

Rizky, its a fair comment and happens a lot.

[Iron Butterfly]

Storr, wot exactly are we waiting for frum WhatSausage now? You seem orfully keen to delay the linch on him as long as possibul. Are you hoping to divert the linch on him to sumwun else (me, perhaps?).

Well if you noticed, whatsausage never posted consistently... so it was very likely regardless of his alignment that he would show up one last time before deadline... Additionally, more time doesn't hurt town, it allows for more discussion. Which has come to show now several people ignoring this, and just attempting to end the day.

Ackshually, maybe you can tel me sumting, and I ask this as an inexperiensed playa: Wot are the possible implikations of this group he talks about? Does it just mean he cood possibly communicate with them sekretly, or is there some chance he can be rekruted by them? We dont need God-like powers in anti-Town hands (if they are not alreddy).

the group is likely antitown in meaning since it hasn't been used. Or more likely it contains inactive people that haven't posted. Whatsausage admitted that he hasn't even attempted to talk in the group. I don't like that. One should only worry about a cult, if some evidence comes to light of one. Till then just hunt for scummy people and anti town.


Regarding wing comment on cop checks. He states latter that the cop checks can be "decoded" latter in the game. He isnt' expecting a result asap to know about deg/mitch, just that he would like that help so that latter in the game when a cops sanity/power is confirmed one can know about those players. He isn't contradicting himself.

Two more days is not going to produce anymore information.I would rather lynch and move on. Sausage is not doing himself any favors either.