[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[degaston]

He made the damn thing. He'd better know what it was supposed to do.

Well, he hasent been very forthcoming about it so far, has he?

Correct, so why are you covering for him by speculating on things that should be easy for him to answer?

Wot does it matter wot teh "paralize" setting wood have dun anyway? How is knowing dat going to move tings forward? Looks like a line of enkwiry desined to genarate noise rather than identify scum.

So now you are accusing me of generating noise?
I don't know if it matters what paralyze did. Why do you have a problem with me asking a question about it?

I know your trying to contribute, but my questions here are just about facts, so adding your speculation just confuses the issue, and makes it more difficult for everyone else to follow.

Teh condescending tone and imperative manner of sum playas - Storr, IB, and yerself been teh usual suspecks - got old a long time ago. Don't like my posts? Don't funken reed dem. I'll spekulate eny goddam time I want to.

No, I don't like a lot of your posts, but I have to read them anyway because that's how the game is played.

[virus90]

i have requested to be replaced or modkilled.
i am to busy during the weekdays, hardly home these days. so i cant keep up with the game. normally i manage with the smaller games to appear and keep up to date but 30 pages of text for each day are to much for me to keep up with.
good luck and have fun to all.

[Metsfanmax]

Mets kinda gets it, but he is rong, in teh lite of teh above quote, too say it is unlikely dat Marashu is diferunt now. It is ackshually likely.

After thinking about it more, I now agree with you. An effect that brings someone back to life is much more likely to be third party/scum than not. Like some sort of thing that brings them back as zombies or something and recruits them to a cult. I think it's likely that he has a different alignment but same role. In that light, it's interesting that Storr is pushing so hard for Marashu's role to be proven again. We can confirm that he is still an insane cop and that doesn't at all mean that he's town -- it doesn't cost him much to give us a confirmed town in return for him being 'cleared'.

Thus my position is that reviver is just very unlikely to be a town-oriented role. So this is one of the reasons I think we should lynch Storr today.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Ok I get that Storr might not be town, but why is he top of the lynch list? Dj and Falko stand well above by my book.

Storr has proved his role, and even if its not one shot, the worst he can do is bring back PCM who is basically a mafia goon. I dont get the lynch. Time tells more.

[AladdinSane]

I would not want to bring someone back from the dead. I would be afraid that they would be a zombie and start to eat townies especially with this being a bastard game. Stor don't off yourself to try to bring back the dead and stay beneficial to town.

It has just struck me dat dis is kinda inneresting. Dis was posted at a point in teh game wen I had awreddy raised teh alarm dat Storr was planing to sacrifise hisself to brink bak Marashu. LSU buys into dat and asks Storr not to kill hisself. Dis is Storr's reply:

May my zombie spawn rule the world

Enywun else, I'd rite dat orf as a joke, but Stor notoriusly hates jokes. But...maybe it's a joke enyway. Teh inneresing ting is dat Storr gives no indikashun he has changed his plans.

I orso asked Storr to hold orf:

Storr posted after night actions deadline for a reason.

It's prob too late fer dis, then, but just in case:

Storr, if you ARE tinking of sacrifising yerself to brink back Marashu, fine, but pleese tink about dis before you do:

ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?

We've scene dat der are delusional/insane rolls in dis game. Evrybody shood questjun there sanity. Particuly if you've been led to beleeve dat you can bring sumwun bak frum teh ded by killin yerself. I'm not sayin dont do it, just have a tink about dis before you do. You mite tink you no wot wil happen based on other games, but dis is a basterd game.

its honestly not worth thinking about. Either it works or it doesn't. idc enough

So we go into N2 wit Storr lookin like he is goin to sacrifise hisself to brink back Marashu, and LSU looking like he beleeves Storr is goin to try dat. And yet...

LSU sends Storr teh swetter. WHY wood you send a swetter dat only tells alinement to somewun you beleeve is goin to be ded? Wen he flips yer goin to know his alinement enyway. It only makes sense if LSU beleeves teh swetter can orso save Storr. But...

LSU says he dident beleeve teh swetter cood save Storr:

In regards to the sweater, it was only meant to give out the role of Storr. Whether it saved him or not I can not say. I just know instead of giving out Storr's role it gave out mine instead.

So, I tink we need LSU TJ too tell us why he sent Storr teh swetter...

[AladdinSane]

Ok I get that Storr might not be town, but why is he top of the lynch list? Dj and Falko stand well above by my book.

Storr has proved his role, and even if its not one shot, the worst he can do is bring back PCM who is basically a mafia goon. I dont get the lynch. Time tells more.

Well, do you tink Mets has cort Storr in a lie, or not? And why?

If Storr has been lying, dat shood be enuf to put him ahed of DJP and Falko on teh linch list, I wood say - unless he can convinse us dat teh lie was in Town's best innerests, but he has yet to do dat.

Orso, if Storr is scum, he prob woodent brink bak PCM, becorse PCM was Mafia and mite have his alinement changed to Town. More likely he wood brink bak PTLowe and we wood have too zombie ex-cops runnink around.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Ok I get that Storr might not be town, but why is he top of the lynch list? Dj and Falko stand well above by my book.

Storr has proved his role, and even if its not one shot, the worst he can do is bring back PCM who is basically a mafia goon. I dont get the lynch. Time tells more.

Well, do you tink Mets has cort Storr in a lie, or not? And why?

If Storr has been lying, dat shood be enuf to put him ahed of DJP and Falko on teh linch list, I wood say - unless he can convinse us dat teh lie was in Town's best innerests, but he has yet to do dat.

Orso, if Storr is scum, he prob woodent brink bak PCM, becorse PCM was Mafia and mite have his alinement changed to Town. More likely he wood brink bak PTLowe and we wood have too zombie ex-cops runnink around.

Storr is definitely lying, have you noticed that he has never actually claimed? But this is Storr so I expect such dirty play whether he is town or mafia. Why does the lying put him at the top of the lynch list? I've never understood that concept.

[AladdinSane]

Storr is definitely lying, have you noticed that he has never actually claimed? But this is Storr so I expect such dirty play whether he is town or mafia. Why does the lying put him at the top of the lynch list? I've never understood that concept.[/quote]

Well, I did qualify dat:

If Storr has been lying, dat shood be enuf to put him ahed of DJP and Falko on teh linch list, I wood say - unless he can convinse us dat teh lie was in Town's best innerests, but he has yet to do dat.

Ackshually, I agree wit you: I can tink of circumstanses wear telling a lie mite be in Town's best innerests, and so not linchable. But, atm I don't see Storr's lie forling into dat catagory.

But if Storr comes bak and says "yeah, I lied, but I had to becorse blah blah blah and dat wood have been aginst Town's innerests", and it's plorsibul, I'd take him orf teh top of my list. So, let's see wot he has in Storr for us*.

[AladdinSane]

Funk. I knewed I shooda previewed dat:

Storr is definitely lying, have you noticed that he has never actually claimed? But this is Storr so I expect such dirty play whether he is town or mafia. Why does the lying put him at the top of the lynch list? I've never understood that concept.

Well, I did qualify dat:

If Storr has been lying, dat shood be enuf to put him ahed of DJP and Falko on teh linch list, I wood say - unless he can convinse us dat teh lie was in Town's best innerests, but he has yet to do dat.

Ackshually, I agree wit you: I can tink of circumstanses wear telling a lie mite be in Town's best innerests, and so not linchable. But, atm I don't see Storr's lie forling into dat catagory.

But if Storr comes bak and says "yeah, I lied, but I had to becorse blah blah blah and dat wood have been aginst Town's innerests", and it's plorsibul, I'd take him orf teh top of my list. So, let's see wot he has in Storr for us*.[/quote]

[AladdinSane]

Dubble funk. Time I went to bed, I tink. Sorry evrywun - reely...

Storr is definitely lying, have you noticed that he has never actually claimed? But this is Storr so I expect such dirty play whether he is town or mafia. Why does the lying put him at the top of the lynch list? I've never understood that concept.

Well, I did qualify dat:

If Storr has been lying, dat shood be enuf to put him ahed of DJP and Falko on teh linch list, I wood say - unless he can convinse us dat teh lie was in Town's best innerests, but he has yet to do dat.

Ackshually, I agree wit you: I can tink of circumstanses wear telling a lie mite be in Town's best innerests, and so not linchable. But, atm I don't see Storr's lie forling into dat catagory.

But if Storr comes bak and says "yeah, I lied, but I had to becorse blah blah blah and dat wood have been aginst Town's innerests", and it's plorsibul, I'd take him orf teh top of my list. So, let's see wot he has in Storr for us*.

[madmitch]

I warned you guys Storr is a ticking bomb, his truths are lies

[AladdinSane]

I warned you guys Storr is a ticking bomb, his truths are lies

As opposed too yer lies, Mr Deputy-Mailman-Nobody-3P Jester?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I would not want to bring someone back from the dead. I would be afraid that they would be a zombie and start to eat townies especially with this being a bastard game. Stor don't off yourself to try to bring back the dead and stay beneficial to town.

It has just struck me dat dis is kinda inneresting. Dis was posted at a point in teh game wen I had awreddy raised teh alarm dat Storr was planing to sacrifise hisself to brink bak Marashu. LSU buys into dat and asks Storr not to kill hisself. Dis is Storr's reply:

May my zombie spawn rule the world

Enywun else, I'd rite dat orf as a joke, but Stor notoriusly hates jokes. But...maybe it's a joke enyway. Teh inneresing ting is dat Storr gives no indikashun he has changed his plans.

I orso asked Storr to hold orf:

Storr posted after night actions deadline for a reason.

It's prob too late fer dis, then, but just in case:

Storr, if you ARE tinking of sacrifising yerself to brink back Marashu, fine, but pleese tink about dis before you do:

ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?

We've scene dat der are delusional/insane rolls in dis game. Evrybody shood questjun there sanity. Particuly if you've been led to beleeve dat you can bring sumwun bak frum teh ded by killin yerself. I'm not sayin dont do it, just have a tink about dis before you do. You mite tink you no wot wil happen based on other games, but dis is a basterd game.

its honestly not worth thinking about. Either it works or it doesn't. idc enough

So we go into N2 wit Storr lookin like he is goin to sacrifise hisself to brink back Marashu, and LSU looking like he beleeves Storr is goin to try dat. And yet...

LSU sends Storr teh swetter. WHY wood you send a swetter dat only tells alinement to somewun you beleeve is goin to be ded? Wen he flips yer goin to know his alinement enyway. It only makes sense if LSU beleeves teh swetter can orso save Storr. But...

LSU says he dident beleeve teh swetter cood save Storr:

In regards to the sweater, it was only meant to give out the role of Storr. Whether it saved him or not I can not say. I just know instead of giving out Storr's role it gave out mine instead.

So, I tink we need LSU TJ too tell us why he sent Storr teh swetter...

Simple I didn't believe he would be dead and him wanting to raise the dead along with mass claiming I found suspicious. If the sweater told us his role it could have proved or disproved his "God" role being for town.

[StorrZerg]

@AladdinSane if I flip town, what does that make marashu.

[StorrZerg]

Sweater telling everyone I'm "god" wouldn't of changed anything. A role claim doesn't determine alignment.

[StorrZerg]

I haven't lied.
I had reason to believe I would die when I used my power to bring back Marashu. I didn't die, I don't know why. This was done at the start of day phase.

Night phase, I used a double save, one on ptlowe and one on benga. Something blocked me, or a bus action was used, or an unstoppable kill.

[Metsfanmax]

And you're not going to explain how you have the ability to bring people back and the power to be a double doctor?

[StorrZerg]

And you're not going to explain how you have the ability to bring people back and the power to be a double doctor?

Explain what, that's my fucking role.



My powers being able to bring back someone from the dead one time use, usable at any time, with some choice words that I assumed meant I would die after using it.

Additionally I had the power to do a double save at night.

My role is town god.


What the f*ck else do you want. Do i have to copy paste my role pm and be modkilledfor you to understand my role??????

[AladdinSane]

My powers being able to bring back someone from the dead one time use, usable at any time, with some choice words that I assumed meant I would die after using it.

Additionally I had the power to do a double save at night.

My role is town god.


What the f*ck else do you want. Do i have to copy paste my role pm and be modkilledfor you to understand my role??????

Okay, so teh revive was one-time. You say you "had" teh power to do a dubble-save - does dat imply you no longer have dis power?

Wot other powers, if eny, do you have? It wood be weerd fer our Town god to have eggspended his powers awreddy, I tink. Den you woodent reely be a god enymore, rite?

And why teh strident tone? You havent eggsactly been forthcuming about yore roll.

[AladdinSane]

@AladdinSane if I flip town, what does that make marashu.

Dat's teh ting. Even if you are Town and merely acted rashly in bringink bak Marashu, it dozent tell us enyting about his curent alinement/sanity/role. We have to go bak to treeting him as "untested", and take wotever he says about investimagashuns he has dun with a large grain of salt. In fact, I tink he is werse then "untested" on account of having been Town before but having undergorn a likely alinement-changing resureckshun.

[AladdinSane]

I would not want to bring someone back from the dead. I would be afraid that they would be a zombie and start to eat townies especially with this being a bastard game. Stor don't off yourself to try to bring back the dead and stay beneficial to town.

It has just struck me dat dis is kinda inneresting. Dis was posted at a point in teh game wen I had awreddy raised teh alarm dat Storr was planing to sacrifise hisself to brink bak Marashu. LSU buys into dat and asks Storr not to kill hisself. Dis is Storr's reply:

May my zombie spawn rule the world

Enywun else, I'd rite dat orf as a joke, but Stor notoriusly hates jokes. But...maybe it's a joke enyway. Teh inneresing ting is dat Storr gives no indikashun he has changed his plans.

I orso asked Storr to hold orf:

Storr posted after night actions deadline for a reason.

It's prob too late fer dis, then, but just in case:

Storr, if you ARE tinking of sacrifising yerself to brink back Marashu, fine, but pleese tink about dis before you do:

ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?

We've scene dat der are delusional/insane rolls in dis game. Evrybody shood questjun there sanity. Particuly if you've been led to beleeve dat you can bring sumwun bak frum teh ded by killin yerself. I'm not sayin dont do it, just have a tink about dis before you do. You mite tink you no wot wil happen based on other games, but dis is a basterd game.

its honestly not worth thinking about. Either it works or it doesn't. idc enough

So we go into N2 wit Storr lookin like he is goin to sacrifise hisself to brink back Marashu, and LSU looking like he beleeves Storr is goin to try dat. And yet...

LSU sends Storr teh swetter. WHY wood you send a swetter dat only tells alinement to somewun you beleeve is goin to be ded? Wen he flips yer goin to know his alinement enyway. It only makes sense if LSU beleeves teh swetter can orso save Storr. But...

LSU says he dident beleeve teh swetter cood save Storr:

In regards to the sweater, it was only meant to give out the role of Storr. Whether it saved him or not I can not say. I just know instead of giving out Storr's role it gave out mine instead.

So, I tink we need LSU TJ too tell us why he sent Storr teh swetter...

Simple I didn't believe he would be dead and him wanting to raise the dead along with mass claiming I found suspicious. If the sweater told us his role it could have proved or disproved his "God" role being for town.

Wait, at dis point you cleerly beleeved dat Storr wood die if he resureckted Marashu:

Stor don't off yourself to try to bring back the dead and stay beneficial to town.

And der is no indickashun in yer subsekwent posts on dat day dat you had changed yer mind on dis. So wot's dis about not beleeving he wood be ded? There wasent enytink in Storr's subsekwent posts dat day to indickate he woodent die. If you reely changed yer mind about Storr's potenshal deth, why?

If the sweater told us his role it could have proved or disproved his "God" role being for town.

And wot's dis? "being for town"? Teh swetter told roll, rite, not alinement? Even if teh swetter had told us Storr is a god, it woodent have told us if he is a Town god, a 3P god, or a Mafia god. Just as it dozent tell us if you are a Town inventer, a 3P inventer, or a Mafia inventer.

But you invented teh swetter, rite? Why not invent a swetter dat told alinement insted of roll? after all, it's moor inportent to know sumwun's alinement than there roll, rite?

[AladdinSane]

He made the damn thing. He'd better know what it was supposed to do.

Well, he hasent been very forthcoming about it so far, has he?

Correct, so why are you covering for him by speculating on things that should be easy for him to answer?

Wot does it matter wot teh "paralize" setting wood have dun anyway? How is knowing dat going to move tings forward? Looks like a line of enkwiry desined to genarate noise rather than identify scum.

So now you are accusing me of generating noise?
I don't know if it matters what paralyze did. Why do you have a problem with me asking a question about it?

I know your trying to contribute, but my questions here are just about facts, so adding your speculation just confuses the issue, and makes it more difficult for everyone else to follow.

Teh condescending tone and imperative manner of sum playas - Storr, IB, and yerself been teh usual suspecks - got old a long time ago. Don't like my posts? Don't funken reed dem. I'll spekulate eny goddam time I want to.

No, I don't like a lot of your posts, but I have to read them anyway because that's how the game is played.

Okay, well if you tink it's going to leed sumwear, carry on.

[Iron Butterfly]

2 am monday and deadline is Tuesday. We need to cut the BS and decide who the lynch is going to be.

[rishaed]

2 am monday and deadline is Tuesday. We need to cut the BS and decide who the lynch is going to be.

This. Also even keeping up, there is just a ton of fluff recently that is just either pointless to read, or infighting between two people.
Important Notes:
Virus (amidst this destruction) has asked to be either Modkilled or Replaced.
Storr had/has double doc on top of his one shot revive?
Aladdin has way too many colors/length in some of his posts. I mean its fine to post a lot, or to post a larger post, but text walls every page is really hard to process.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I haven't lied.
I had reason to believe I would die when I used my power to bring back Marashu. I didn't die, I don't know why. This was done at the start of day phase.

Night phase, I used a double save, one on ptlowe and one on benga. Something blocked me, or a bus action was used, or an unstoppable kill.

Yesterday you were claiming that you could only save 1 out of the two so were assuming that I shot Benga, hence Rish must be lying! Now that isnt one of your options.

I am extremelly concerned about the bus possibility for obvious reasons. Why not raise it before?