[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[AladdinSane]

*t makes sense if yore both scum, tho - as scum he wood want to conferm yer roll as Town god. So teh inferense frum yer own argumint is dat you are both scum.

Swetter only reveeled roll, not alinement.

[AladdinSane]

Does anyone else think that's pretty scummy reasoning for lynching a townie?

I logged in today planning to unvote, but having seen dis, I tink I will leave my vote wear it is, fer now.

Wun of:

Wing, Deg, Rish.

I'm not seeing eny kind of a case aginst Deg or Rish yet, so...

[AladdinSane]

Anyway, its turned out well as I get a doublevote which benefits us far more than killing Mitch.

Speaking of which, Mitch do you know what happens at the end of the game if you are still alive?

I ONLY WIN IF I GET LYNCHED so it looks like that ain't going to happen so I choose to help town

I don't like dis deel. At dis point, why are we beleeving ENYTINK dat Mitch says?

@Mitch:
(1) If you can only win by been linched, and you aknowlege dat isent going to hapen, why do you even want to stay in teh game? Maybe yer a surviver and you are cleverly acting like a jester so we don't linch you. And no, dis isent WIFOM, becorse it makes sense of Mitch's aparently strong desire to remain in teh game.

(2) You say dat you want to help Town - teh implikashun been dat by giving control of yer vote to Wing, you are helping Town (i.e.Wing is Town). Cumming frum you, wit yore histery of misdireckshun on dis game, and yer vested interest in keeping Wing alive, dat's like teh kiss of deth fer Wing.

(3) If you reely tink Wing is Town, pleese tell us why. Or, tell us why wun of teh other two named by Benga (Deg and Rish) aren't Town.

[Ragian]

Six pages. Man, this moves fast. From Saturday - Saturday, I'm away FYI. I'll try to log on after skiing, but no promises.

useless-from-read-through

We're not on the same page, here, mate. I did indeed take into account to whom I gave it. I just misjudge that person. Also, I stand by my design. Do you think my design makes me scummy?

How do you know how I used the gift?

Talking about deg, there, my friend

I know how you used your first gift, but only because you said it.

Just read it from Rags statement, if he thinks I used my gift foolishly he then probably knows how I used it.

I think his statement was referring to me, not you.

Already cleared up. Nevermind!

I have used rags item and was bulletprof-so perhaps I was targeted

I have used one more item given to me and one of this 3 is scum
WingCmdr Ginkapo
rishaed
degaston

if rish didn't jail wing and wing tried to shot me, that would explain no kills this night

vote wing

There we motherfucking go! How do you like me now, Deg?

I am 90% sure its Deg. I just cant prove it.

How I hope this is true! I'm leaning deg too, but not because one of the accused claims so. Perhaps it's because I'm butthurt from being targeted. I don't see Rish being scum.

Explaining gifts since they've now been used (cliff notes):

"Personality Module" - choose one of the following for one-shot ability
a) Change your personality into being steellike (i.e. bulletproof)
b) Change your personality into being stealth (i.e. unblockable)

Reason I gave it to benga was because I thought he'd either be targeted given his investigation abilities or blocked. I gave it to him N2, but he never used it till N3 (it seems).

"The Alignment Definer"
One shot use that shows three people, one of which is scum.

Reason I gave it to benga was a) because I trust him and b) because I thought scum wouldn't target him now that he was "out of investigations" being retired cop and all that.

@aladdin, when claiming and all that, I don't withhold information. Also, if he got attention, the invention would help him. I didn't have any worries there.

[StorrZerg]

Why benga was likely not the target.

He was gifted. This was known. It's poor to kill him then confirm a town sided inventor.
In addition he got 2 inventions. If one inventor is mafia, then he was 100% not targeted for kill.

Rishaed, idk how long you want to wait, but you should wait till after mets announces his information.

Atm strong town circle includes
Rishaed
Rage
Storr
Marashu
Benga
Twr

Unlikely mafia includes
Wing
Ib

Moved twr up and added ib as unlikely mafia.
Slash might be modkilled soon.


Rishaed, do you think you saved a town or blocked a mafia?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

N0/N1 cycle - Aladdin or CM gains post restriction
N2 cycle - Rage gains post restriction (and subsequently forgot looking at his last post)
N3 cycle - Benga gains post restriction

CatchersMitt is likely the source.

Catchers EXPLAIN YOURSELF

Rage, Benga, Aladdin - anything to offer?

[StorrZerg]

Why not AladdinSane?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Why not AladdinSane?

Catchers claimed role is about the PR restriction. Which fits cult leader/ infector.

[StorrZerg]

Forgot what it was. Idk if he is mafia, 3p very likely

[AladdinSane]

N0/N1 cycle - Aladdin or CM gains post restriction
N2 cycle - Rage gains post restriction (and subsequently forgot looking at his last post)
N3 cycle - Benga gains post restriction

CatchersMitt is likely the source.

Catchers EXPLAIN YOURSELF

Rage, Benga, Aladdin - anything to offer?

I don't tink teh mispeling has enytink to do wit infeckshun. Ragian got his frum braking his toof frum eeting his appul:

Wow. I'm way behind. I'm sowwy. (Also, I ate the apple and have a bwoken tooth as you can see.)

Orso, his PR was diffrent: he just had to replase "R"s wit "W"s, aparently - dat argues aginst infeckshun.

CM had dat weerd claim:

Ultimately I believe my role is devised for the amusement of the mods and possibly the dismay of another. Whilst I hold no special powers, I am required to agitate those bothered by poor spelling. I am I'm the Town Turperbuoco!

Aparently Mets was susposed to know wot dis ment. I Googled it at teh time, but orl dat came bak was frum CC, so I just assumed it was an in-joke:

I am I'm the Town Turperbuoco!

Can someone explain what this means?

I think the story would be best coming from Mets

In terms of mafia, as I said, it just requires me to misspell in my posts.

We never did hear back frum Mets on dat, inciddently. My PR orso differs frum CM's in dat I seem to be rekwired to mispel a lot moor then he does. If I mispel at his level, I get a rocket.

If it was part of CM's roll, I eggspect he wood have been told about it in his Roll PM. Dat's wot hapened wit me. I got my role PM 20 mins befour Streak's corl fer N0 ackshuns. I tink CM hits dis particklar nail on teh hed wen he sez it was fer teh amusement of teh mods. Orso, he temprarily loses his PR wen he eats his appul:

In other news, I ate the apple and it was so awesome that my post restriction has been lifted for today and this evening! I'm personally excited about these results, intentionally misspelling is slowing killing my soul.

Frum my own Roll PM and subsekwent rockets, I gather I can be punished fer not mispeling enuff, and I tink teh moor I mispel, teh better it will be fer me. I'm a bit of a stikler fer my speling in GC, an I tink Streak mite have picked up on dat.

Benga is now mispeling "Bullettproof", witch is ackshually an eesy werd to spel coreckly. I hadent notised it as a patern until pointed out. Let's wait to hear frum Benga about it. I do have a thery, but I'll wait sinse nobody seems to like speckulashun. Thery hasent enytink to do wit infeckshun, tho - I'll say dat mutch.

I've been tinking about cult too, as it terns out. And orso teh raw deel dat HotShot seemed to get frum teh mods. I'm wundering if IB wasent just handed info about HS, as he claims, but had sum sort of N0 ackshun witch he chose to use on HS - i.e. it cood have been enybody, but he chose HS. I know sum of you hate spekulashun, so I'll put sum thorts in spoilers:

Spoiler

IB strikes me as sumwun who emplys suttulty of frazing, so I was struck by dis:

I come from the school of "lynch all liars". As Town I do not lie or tell half truths to serve my win conditions.

"As Town I do not lie or tell half truths to serve my win conditions."

As Town, he does not lie. But if he is NOT Town...?

Wot if IB infeckted HS on N0, then threw him under teh bus fer Town cred, confidant he cood stay hidden and infeckt others?

[rishaed]

Why benga was likely not the target.

He was gifted. This was known. It's poor to kill him then confirm a town sided inventor.
In addition he got 2 inventions. If one inventor is mafia, then he was 100% not targeted for kill.

Rishaed, idk how long you want to wait, but you should wait till after mets announces his information.

Atm strong town circle includes
Rishaed
Rage
Storr
Marashu
Benga
Twr

Unlikely mafia includes
Wing
Ib

Moved twr up and added ib as unlikely mafia.
Slash might be modkilled soon.


Rishaed, do you think you saved a town or blocked a mafia?

I most likely saved a town.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Tuperbuoco is an in joke created during a chatter event. Both Streaker and Dakky are chatters. Its irrelevant to the role mechanics.

Rage might not be telling the truth about the apple.

[Metsfanmax]

I don't like dis deel. At dis point, why are we beleeving ENYTINK dat Mitch says?

How about because of this thing I pointed out a while back that everyone ignored?

Mtam was also Vig.

Ok so I'm going to be honest -- I forgot about that when I just posted. But I remembered that when he flipped he was the flying laser pumpkin, so I searched the thread for "pumpkin" and found the following posted on D2:

I see SKOFFIN lost her head and it was replaced by a pumpkin, I hope it wasn't the flying pumpkin that shoots laser beams out its ass or everyone is in trouble.

This is in response to the modkill of Skoffin:

Skoffin, Town Doctor, has been found decapitated and his head replaced by a rotting pumpkin in the town square (Modkill)

Here's the thing -- TFPTSLBOOIA is a fairly arcane mafia reference. Even if madmitch knew about that, which is unlikely, there's no reason for him to have associated Skoffin's head turning into a pumpkin with that particular role. So this very very strongly suggests that somehow mitch knew about mtam's role before mtam flipped.

Ultimately I believe my role is devised for the amusement of the mods and possibly the dismay of another. Whilst I hold no special powers, I am required to agitate those bothered by poor spelling. I am I'm the Town Turperbuoco!

Aparently Mets was susposed to know wot dis ment. I Googled it at teh time, but orl dat came bak was frum CC, so I just assumed it was an in-joke:

It is an in-joke. It was a trivia event where someone in a hurry misspelled "tuberculosis" as "turperbuoco" and we mercilessly gave him shit for it until it became its own thing. It doesn't have an impact on the mafia game.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Mets, look at the role list on mafiascumnet. One role stands out on the page. Tfptslbooia

[benga]

i have no ties/connections to post restrictions or misspelling

[AladdinSane]

Rage might not be telling the truth about the apple.

Dat ocurred to me to, but notise dat he is no longer mispeling? Dat dozent fit teh patern. He coodent just be fergeting, becorse he wood get a rocket frum teh mods, presumabully.

Orso, CM's appul had a (temprary) efect on his PR, so dat's coroborashun, of sorts. Unles there both lying, of corse. But I suspeckt not.

And teh timing is rite - Ragian's mispeling appeered around teh time peepul were eeting there appuls (or not).

[PLAYER57832]

Nothing stated above has changed my opinion, so again,,,,
UNVOTE (no lynch)
VOTE WingCmdr Ginkapo

Reasons mirror those given above by others, in addition to reasons I gave earlier. I have other suspicions, but I am not giving them voice at the moment.

[degaston]

I have used rags item and was bulletprof-so perhaps I was targeted

I have used one more item given to me and one of this 3 is scum
WingCmdr Ginkapo
rishaed
degaston

if rish didn't jail wing and wing tried to shot me, that would explain no kills this night

vote wing

There we motherfucking go! How do you like me now, Deg?

How would you like someone who gave you a suicide gun? But as I said earlier:

I hadn't mentioned [Ragian] directly at all today because I wanted to see what new information was available from the night before I decided what to do. I'll have to reevaluate based on benga's information.

So maybe I was wrong about you - maybe you're sane and LSU is an insane inventor? Maybe LSU is scum. Or maybe you're scum and you made a pro-town invention to gain town cred. Have another glass - I've got plenty of wine. Anyway, this isn't my priority today.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Nothing stated above has changed my opinion, so again,,,,
UNVOTE (no lynch)
VOTE WingCmdr Ginkapo

Reasons mirror those given above by others, in addition to reasons I gave earlier. I have other suspicions, but I am not giving them voice at the moment.

Only Deg has given reasons. In all honesty, you are doing a terrible job of hiding your alignment. There is only so long people will put up with, "I will tell you later". At some point you have to have a voice.

[Ragian]

N0/N1 cycle - Aladdin or CM gains post restriction
N2 cycle - Rage gains post restriction (and subsequently forgot looking at his last post)
N3 cycle - Benga gains post restriction

CatchersMitt is likely the source.

Catchers EXPLAIN YOURSELF

Rage, Benga, Aladdin - anything to offer?

I was told that my problem stemmed from eating the apple on which I broke my tooth. I'm presuming that I would fix that. (Because I would fix that.) Perhaps I should ask the mods...

Aladdin has already explained. I'm always too late for the party...

Tuperbuoco is an in joke created during a chatter event. Both Streaker and Dakky are chatters. Its irrelevant to the role mechanics.

Rage might not be telling the truth about the apple.

Excuse me?

---

@Deg, help a Dane out on the wine joke. Is it a whine-pun? If so, are you suggesting that I am or you are whining?

Now, it seems to me that Wing is subtly trying to undermine my credibility by stating that perhaps I'm lying about my (former, I presume) PR. Next, he'll say that if I'm lying about that (which I'm not), I'll be lying about other things too or at least have given benga faulty shite. That's some scummy stuff right there. I think deg is playing the accusations much cooler than wing at the moment.

To reply to deg's airing of my sanity, I can't say much. I've never heard of an insane inventor, but I guess it could happen in a surprise bastard game. If so, there's not much I can do with it and the only proof we have of my inventions working is the fact that benga investigated me and I came back to town. I'm pretty sure such a circular argument won't fly with people close to the noose.

To the idea that I might be scum, I can say loads, but I think my inventions (even if deg disagrees) and my choice of recipients speak for themselves. If you disagree, go right ahead and vote me. I doubt you'll get many people behind you given that we have one scum out of three on the table. (Also, I did see that I'm not deg's priority today, so this is meant for everyone.)

So, wing. Do you think I've been acting scummily? Do you think I was lying about my PR? To what end?

[degaston]

@Deg, help a Dane out on the wine joke. Is it a whine-pun? If so, are you suggesting that I am or you are whining?

To reply to deg's airing of my sanity, I can't say much. I've never heard of an insane inventor, but I guess it could happen in a surprise bastard game. If so, there's not much I can do with it and the only proof we have of my inventions working is the fact that benga investigated me and I came back to town. I'm pretty sure such a circular argument won't fly with people close to the noose.

To the idea that I might be scum, I can say loads, but I think my inventions (even if deg disagrees) and my choice of recipients speak for themselves. If you disagree, go right ahead and vote me. I doubt you'll get many people behind you given that we have one scum out of three on the table. (Also, I did see that I'm not deg's priority today, so this is meant for everyone.)

The wine joke is just a reference to WIFOM, and me admitting that though I don't think your invention necessarily proves your alignment, any speculation about it is just pure speculation at the moment.

Yes, I made up the idea of an insane inventor as one possible explanation for why we might have two town inventors in the game. Your inventions appear to work as planned, and LSU's don't. It doesn't seem impossible to me that a game like this could have an insane inventor, but there are several other possible explanations.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

So, wing. Do you think I've been acting scummily? Do you think I was lying about my PR? To what end?

If CM is a cult recruiter and the PR is a outward sign of recruitment, then your win condition would have changed upon recruitment to winning when the cult outnumbers town. It would not be in your interest (or Aladdins) to acknowledge the existance of a cult. There is little sign that Mafia have multiple killing powers which suggests a cult in the game. Cults are dangerous as they snowball very quickly into a large force. If there is any truth to this then CM needs to be lynched immediately.

Aladdin is really strongly protecting you.

This has nothing to do with the three way scum check I am in. Benga has corrected his spelling now and it doesnt look like anyone gained a PR last night, so not quite so concerning as I thought.

I believe that you started of as town. I dont believe that you have any reason to lie about anything except the existance of a cult (if it does exist).

[CatchersMitt14]

Aladdin has been speaking for people this entire tame, it should be no surpize that he's attempted to explain my PR as well. In fact, I think he did a pretty good job summig up my role and I'm actually feeling better about his alignment.

Wing, I feel like you're grasping at straws for this one in an attempt to find some reazon to linch me. You keep trying to tie together anyone who shows signes of misspelling in their posts. No matter what explahnations people have for the errors. As already dizzcussed, I had nothing to do with the apples or with the on e that broke Ragian's tooth.

As for Benga, I chaulked it up to it being unlikely that English is his first language. His posts have contained errors since this game started, you're just now using them in an attempt to discredit me.

Vote WingCmdr Ginkapo

[AladdinSane]

If CM is a cult recruiter and the PR is a outward sign of recruitment, then your win condition would have changed upon recruitment to winning when the cult outnumbers town.

But a cult wit sutch an obvius "tell" wood be ludicrusly eesy to wipe out, wunce deteckted. And it wood be luicrusly eesy to deteckt, becorse their wood be sumwun wit a mispeling PR appeering evry day. It wood be a cult doomed to fail.

This has nothing to do with the three way scum check I am in.

Are you shore? Teh timing sort of screems "Diversionery tacktic"...

Benga has corrected his spelling now and it doesnt look like anyone gained a PR last night, so not quite so concerning as I thought.

Ragian has orso coreckted his speling. But I gess it was werth seeing if it wood fly. Eny port in a storm, eh?

[StorrZerg]

Those voting wing, are you reading deg town? If so why ? If not, why wing over deg