by new guy1 on Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:55 pm
I don't like the idea of keeping MewTwo around. If what Dakky said was true, then if you get recruited, you can still win, though you gain an additional WC to kill "?" and the possibility of being killed due to the death of your trainer, but the WC is completed if we lynch DY today, so it's really a matter of that extra chance of being killed when your trainer dies. TR needs to be defeated either way, but if a WP gets recruited by a trainer, then at least they're alive and still looking to take TR out of the game, still aligned with WP WC, whereas with MewTwo, if he doesn't like you, then you're probably getting vigged (at best) and will not be able to reach any WC, WP or otherwise. He honestly doesn't seem favorable to any faction, because he is his own faction, and the idea that WP weren't told that they had a hero would make it a bit of a bastard role to me. I think he's trying to paint himself on the WP's side because they have become the clear majority. He said his role was "PRO-WP", which I don't believe, based on flavor and the way Doom has played. If people insist on keeping a SK in the game, maybe you should consider the fact that like any WP, he can probably get stronger with more XP (I don't know that WP can gain abilities with levels, but I would speculate it as a possibility since there were possible "other perks"). Why would we leave a SK to get stronger, under any circumstances? He's not part of WP's WC, but he wasn't mentioned in WP's PMs in any way, which leads me to believe he's an SK. If he was a vig, I would expect it to be many other pokemon before MewTwo... For instance, Mew?
I feel like the only reason anyone has come up with to keep him around is that he can kill those who we tell him to... A much better solution has already been suggested - coordinate to take out the deadweight with WP. Can trust them to have a WC in common, whereas with MewTwo, he's probably trying to prove he's better than everyone else, like he did for most of the film(*cough* SK). We don't need any more night kills than the ones WP can provide from vigging those deemed fit, and any others that TR commit. Would help ease the stress of gaining XP for self-preservation purposes by making sure that all WP agreed on a target(s), and possibly gain levels (with possible other perks). Yeah, all the WP can turn on each other at some point when they have more levels, but that's unlikely and I still would rather take the risk with leveled up pokemon than ANY MewTwo. I'm just pretty convinced if we left MewTwo to be attempted on for a night kill, that he could take pretty much everyone at least for one night, if he's not invincible. There is no evidence to support that he is on our side, his role's flavor SCREAMS otherwise, if his WC was to kill trainers and save WP, and he knew that there were only two trainers, I'm entirely convinced he would have "wasted" the NK on Masket just to make sure he died, and prevent a possible capture, even with the threat of TR. There's flimsy reasoning for attacking Serbia, but for the most part, it appears to be just a kill to kill, because if he suspected Dakky of being scum and Serbia buddying up to him (forgive me if I got the names wrong, I don't have time to go back and look) then he could have attacked Dakky instead.
Everyone is STILL discussing keeping him around for some reason, so I will not vote, as to allow for the discussion. I suppose in the mean time, I will say that Samlen has appeared scummy to me the whole game and one of his more recent posts put Doom at L1 while discussion was still going and with Doom having just gotten out of L1 a few hours prior, which I found more scummy than the rest of his play this game (his last post was alright, made me feel like he was trying to give more information than the rest of the game, so a bit redeeming) and would be a candidate I could get behind for pressuring. I could also see a vote of mine going to legionnare as I have found myself more than once reading a post that I felt was scummy and looking over to see it belonged to him, though to keep this post short (lol) I won't quote those unless there is interest in a case on him (personally behind that MewTwo lynch, I'm bought on that one).
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