[CC7] Finals S&M (31) vs FALL (30) - S&M Wins - Final 4/5/18

[IcePack]

This is something the clan team can discuss and look into etc
There’s things like losing players cuz they are getting cut from playing w their friends to consider, so they don’t spread out they just leave

[rockfist]

This has a 33-28 ish feel to it, which means Fallen has rallied some, but needs to rally more?

[xroads]

We knew they had some wins coming, but we are getting closer to the magic #31

[donche64]

If you do that, you will have to make sets smaller, and allow more players per set. Some wars with 30 game sets would be hard for smaller clans

+1

[benga]

If you do that, you will have to make sets smaller, and allow more players per set. Some wars with 30 game sets would be hard for smaller clans

+1

30 and hard

[emilywink]

30, hard, smaller

[niMic]

But the truth seems to be that asking clans to restrict the roster to 25 players wouldn't entail much more than ejecting all the bench warmers.

This is true, but I wonder if that would lead to a fair amount of semi-active or inactive players - who would otherwise eventually keep playing - never returning to competitive play. I've been in that category a few times during my time at KoRT/S&M, and I doubt I would return to clan play (or even CC at all) if I came back and my old clan with my old friends was inaccessible.

Maybe that accounts for so few people that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme, who knows.

[rockfist]

Maybe there could be an active and inactive roster. If you are inactive you can still play any number of games, just not clan games...If you came back you wait until there is an opening on the active roster. We have people that have left that I would step aside for if they came back. I don't know if this would work, its just another idea.

[IcePack]

My thought was like a sports team w each catagory having its own limit.

Active roster - active players
Short term injured reserve - short term absenses
Long term IR - long term / unknown duration absenses

But I agree w nimic, davekettering and I were discussing a bit. There are definite concerns that would have to be addressed before something like this could be approached

[emilywink]

let's just make huge clans, Fall and S&M merge and we hoist the CC7 trophy together as winners!

[Extreme Ways]

let's just make huge clans, Fall and S&M merge and we hoist the CC7 trophy together as winners!

I'd love to see S&M + TOFU vs FALL + TOP.

[IcePack]

let's just make huge clans, Fall and S&M merge and we hoist the CC7 trophy together as winners!

I'd love to see S&M + TOFU vs FALL + TOP.

Those two groups aren’t even remotely close. Pairing the two most successful clans vs FALL and a new clan that hasn’t even made CCup Finals is a bit lopsided one would think.

[Arama86n]

KORT grabbed TSM. Perhaps my first choice for a merger.
Off the top of my head I really can't see any obvious choice for us today. LoW would be very...fitting considering the history behind our clans, but I really don't know enough about LoW today to even remotely comment, nor do I pay attention to the clan-scene as Ice or Rock do, so hard to comment seriously.

S&M & TOFU merging would be extremely counterproductive for the scene.

That said (as has been discussed at reasonable lengh in this thread), if I would daydream about anything it would be smaller clans. A limit on membership. A merger is not even on the horizon.

[rockfist]

I’m not Lebron James, or Dwayne Wade, or Kevin Durant (its been discussed and if CC is basketball then am Michael Cooper from the show time Lakers). I don’t want to team with S&M or Fallen. I want to beat them.

[Arama86n]

Amen.

[niMic]

I'm more of an Ole Gunnar Solskjær myself.

[IcePack]

IDK basketball, if you talk hockey or nascar i can join in the convo lol

[Extreme Ways]

let's just make huge clans, Fall and S&M merge and we hoist the CC7 trophy together as winners!

I'd love to see S&M + TOFU vs FALL + TOP.

Those two groups aren’t even remotely close. Pairing the two most successful clans vs FALL and a new clan that hasn’t even made CCup Finals is a bit lopsided one would think.

I chose S&M + TOFU as I noticed TOFU supporting S&M over FALL for various reasons, not because of competitive value. The TOP one because I had trouble finding a suitable partner and I think TOP is the most anti-TOFU and anti-S&M of the remaining clans because they claim(ed) they are the #1 clan.

[benga]

let's just make huge clans, Fall and S&M merge and we hoist the CC7 trophy together as winners!

I'd love to see S&M + TOFU vs FALL + TOP.

Those two groups aren’t even remotely close. Pairing the two most successful clans vs FALL and a new clan that hasn’t even made CCup Finals is a bit lopsided one would think.

I chose S&M + TOFU as I noticed TOFU supporting S&M over FALL for various reasons, not because of competitive value. The TOP one because I had trouble finding a suitable partner and I think TOP is the most anti-TOFU and anti-S&M of the remaining clans because they claim(ed) they are the #1 clan.

LOL

so you admit top is the best clan?

[Extreme Ways]

let's just make huge clans, Fall and S&M merge and we hoist the CC7 trophy together as winners!

I'd love to see S&M + TOFU vs FALL + TOP.

Those two groups aren’t even remotely close. Pairing the two most successful clans vs FALL and a new clan that hasn’t even made CCup Finals is a bit lopsided one would think.

I chose S&M + TOFU as I noticed TOFU supporting S&M over FALL for various reasons, not because of competitive value. The TOP one because I had trouble finding a suitable partner and I think TOP is the most anti-TOFU and anti-S&M of the remaining clans because they claim(ed) they are the #1 clan.

LOL

so you admit top is the best clan?

I try not to write stuff that would make them think I'm against them, but if I said any clan other than TOFU would be the rightful #1 I would be ashamed of myself. There's nothing wrong with appreciating the skill of others, but I see no reason why TOFU can't be the the #1 clan and also no reason why TOP WOULD be the #1 clan over TOFU/S&M.

[emilywink]

this war still seems so close to me, after a quick scan i think it looks like S&M can finish with 31-32 wins barring any setbacks/bad luck.

i also see S&M/TOFU as #1 clans. We beat TOFU by 1 game in that last war and the amount of luck i had in many games was much more than usually. No doubt my clan mates came up with brilliant plans/strategies to give us the best chances to facilitate a win. But where TOFU had us in that war i think 8 times out of 10 they would have won it. Maybe even 9 times out of 10.

In this war with FALL we still could lose or also only win by 1 game, but at least in my games (i know it's a small sample size) i think we haven't needed as much luck to win and i have seen mistakes by both us (S&M) and Fall. When we played TOFU i wasn't seeing mistakes and it just always felt like an uphill battle or how i feel when i play josko.

I am thrilled with S&M, have so much fun with my mates, and many of the players and leaders in our clan put in so much effort into making us great. I also have great respect for FALL and am not trying to be a TOFU cheerleader, but i couldn't say S&M was better than TOFU in our last war. Hopefully when we play TOFU again we wont find ourselves in that spot and wont need to have luck hold our hand.

In this current war with Fall I got ridiculously lucky in the tie breaker on the classic map where we should have lost and I had perfect luck on a hail mary (it was quite ridiculous). But it felt like I had many games like that in the semi finals vs TOFU.

This one is still quite exciting, i bet soon our scores will be close as we race to the finish!

[Rodion]

Just wondering, is there a thread where we can see all CC winners/runners-up and CL winners (or top 3)?

If so, can anyone link me to it?

Thanks!

[Extreme Ways]

Just wondering, is there a thread where we can see all CC winners/runners-up and CL winners (or top 3)?

If so, can anyone link me to it?

Thanks!

CC7: Ongoing
CC6: TOFU wins FALL 2nd
CC5: FALL wins TOFU 2nd
CC4: KORT wins TOFU 2nd
CC3: TOFU wins AFOS 2nd
CC2: KORT wins, TSM 2nd
CC1: KORT wins, 2nd ??? likely TOFU or THOTA.

CL8: S&M - TOP - LHDD
CL7: LHDD - FALL - TOFU (LHDD and FALL tied in points, LHDD win on GD)
CL6: TOFU - ACE - FALL
CL5: KORT - ??? - ??? (photobucket doesnt load final standings)
CL4 and beyond - tough to get data out of the completed wars forums.

[Rodion]

Thanks! CC1 had THOTA as runner-up, by the way.

[IcePack]

Just wondering, is there a thread where we can see all CC winners/runners-up and CL winners (or top 3)?

If so, can anyone link me to it?

Thanks!

viewtopic.php?f=438&t=211255