Jdsizzleslice wrote:Dukasaur wrote:I think this whole thing pretty much proves BLM's point.
Quite the contrary.
The kid was white, the suspect was black. There is no evidence of racism here (unless the suspect reveals it was racially motivated).
No outcry.
We look at George Floyd's where he was black and the officer was white. There is no evidence that the kneeling on the neck was racism (unless the officer reveals it was racially motivated).
Riots.
If both acts are assumed or alleged to be just as bad on the moral scale, where are the riots for the kid who died? The reason why there are none is because the kid's death doesn't fit the MSM's narrative. It's a damn shame when people are used for a political agenda.
I would not assume both acts to be just as bad on the moral scale. All murder is wrong, unquestionably, but someone who kills in a moment of blind rage as not as culpable as someone who has all the time in the world to reconsider his actions and decides to go ahead anyway.
Jdsizzleslice wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Hundreds of blacks slaughtered every year.
Correct, with a huge stipulation. Hundreds of blacks are slaughtered every year by other blacks.
I'll let this writer at the Milwaukee Independent answer that one:
According to 2018 data, when race of offenders and victims are known, (which is in just 45.7 percent of murders), 81 percent of whites are listed as killed by other whites, 15.5 percent of whites are listed as killed by blacks, 88.9 percent of blacks are listed as killed by other blacks and 8 percent of blacks are listed as killed by whites.
Most people are unaware of these statistics. As a result, they yell and scream that black people need to stop killing other black people with out ever once saying white people need to stop killing other white people. I hear many consistently say that unless we stop killing each other, we should not complain about the police killing black people. People of all racial groups tend to kill people who look like them.
The police on the other hand, kill blacks disproportionately. Data from 2013-2019 shows that Black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as White Americans to be shot and killed by police officers. In Wisconsin, Blacks are 6.32 % of residents but accounted for 24% of those killed by police according to Mapping Police Violence.
Between 2013 and 2019, police in the United States killed 7,666 people. Black people have been 28% of those killed by police since 2013 despite being only 13% of the population. Of those 7,666 killed by police over 1,000 were unarmed and 17.3% of the black people who died as a result of police interactions were unarmed, a rate higher than for Whites (13.3%), and Hispanics (15.5%).
Jdsizzleslice wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Nobody could care less.
Correct, with a huge stipulation. The politicians in the areas with these high murder rates don't care, and haven't for years.
LOL, I see you're working up the the traditional "blame the Democratic mayors" dodge that Republicans like to trot out. Since the causes of the violence are almost all Federal policies, there's sweet f*ck all the Democratic mayors can do about them, except be scapegoated for your campaigns.
Jdsizzleslice wrote: My question is are you attributing "nobody" to "everyone"?
Dukasaur wrote:One white kid is murdered, everybody goes ballistic.
Incorrect. There has been no outcry for this kid's murder. The MSM has not gone "ballistic." (Side-note, this is an amazing out of context quote, lol
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I wasn't talking about the MSM, I was talking about you.
Dukasaur wrote:Where was your concern last time some 6-year old black kid was murdered?
If there is a situation to this one (in which a 5 year old kid was shot in the head) then I will look at the story and condemn just like this one. Race has nothing to do with whether or not someone's actions are justifiable.
All I am asking for here is equal MSM outrage for Cannon as was presented for George.[/quote]
Why should there be? Cannon's murderer was a run-of-the-mill lowlife who flipped out during an argument with his neighbour and shot the neighbour's kid. Was swiftly arrested, and will almost certainly spend the remainder of his existence behind bars. What's to be outraged about? Justice is being done.
George's murderers were veteran cops who had the training and experience to subdue him without killing him. Even if one of them had flipped out, the others had a moral imperative to speak to their buddy and say, "hey listen, this is excessive force. Time to dial it down." None of them did. They were not charged until after enormous publicity, and will probably get off anyway. Justice may or may not be done, more likely not. George's murder was part of a long-standing pattern of police brutality. If it was an isolated incident, it would not have produced that kind of outrage. If the killers had been promptly arrested, as Cannon's killer was, there would probably not have been much outrage.
