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Re: Lula Orders Army to Withdraw - Afraid of Coup

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:43 pm

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mookiemcgee wrote:what's your opinion of Mussolini Saxi?


Same as my opinion of your mom.


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Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:51 pm

The wonderful new Brazilian president Lula has rejected a German proposal to send weapons to Ukraine before pressing forward on the absolute fact that NATO's bloodthirsty warmongering is to blame for the necessity of the Russian intervention and subsequent peacekeeping operation in Ukraine, Europe's #1 exporter of rentboys and camwhores:

"If one doesn't want to, two can't fight," Lula told reporters, implying Ukraine as well had a role in Russia's invasion.

"I think the reason for the war between Russia and Ukraine also needs to be clearer. Is it because of NATO? Is it because of territorial claims? Is it because of entry into Europe? The world has little information about that," Lula added.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... af-scholz/


Viva Lula!

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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention

Postby mookiemcgee on Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:20 pm

saxitoxin wrote:The wonderful new Brazilian president Lula has rejected a German proposal to send weapons to Ukraine before pressing forward on the absolute fact that NATO's bloodthirsty warmongering is to blame for the necessity of the Russian intervention and subsequent peacekeeping operation in Ukraine, Europe's #1 exporter of rentboys and camwhores:

"If one doesn't want to, two can't fight," Lula told reporters, implying Ukraine as well had a role in Russia's invasion.

"I think the reason for the war between Russia and Ukraine also needs to be clearer. Is it because of NATO? Is it because of territorial claims? Is it because of entry into Europe? The world has little information about that," Lula added.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... af-scholz/


Viva Lula!

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Well that was a very quick pivot Saxi! A couple weeks ago he was the leader of an illegitimate gov't you wanted overthrown. Now he's 'wonderful'!
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:53 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:The wonderful new Brazilian president Lula has rejected a German proposal to send weapons to Ukraine before pressing forward on the absolute fact that NATO's bloodthirsty warmongering is to blame for the necessity of the Russian intervention and subsequent peacekeeping operation in Ukraine, Europe's #1 exporter of rentboys and camwhores:

"If one doesn't want to, two can't fight," Lula told reporters, implying Ukraine as well had a role in Russia's invasion.

"I think the reason for the war between Russia and Ukraine also needs to be clearer. Is it because of NATO? Is it because of territorial claims? Is it because of entry into Europe? The world has little information about that," Lula added.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... af-scholz/


Viva Lula!

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Well that was a very quick pivot Saxi! A couple weeks ago he was the leader of an illegitimate gov't you wanted overthrown. Now he's 'wonderful'!


GO LULA! GO LULA!

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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:59 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:The wonderful new Brazilian president Lula has rejected a German proposal to send weapons to Ukraine before pressing forward on the absolute fact that NATO's bloodthirsty warmongering is to blame for the necessity of the Russian intervention and subsequent peacekeeping operation in Ukraine, Europe's #1 exporter of rentboys and camwhores:

"If one doesn't want to, two can't fight," Lula told reporters, implying Ukraine as well had a role in Russia's invasion.

"I think the reason for the war between Russia and Ukraine also needs to be clearer. Is it because of NATO? Is it because of territorial claims? Is it because of entry into Europe? The world has little information about that," Lula added.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... af-scholz/


Viva Lula!

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Well that was a very quick pivot Saxi! A couple weeks ago he was the leader of an illegitimate gov't you wanted overthrown. Now he's 'wonderful'!


Yes. I was wondering if I'd got my Brazilian presidents mixed up, myself for a moment. But no it was just weathercock Saxi.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:29 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:The wonderful new Brazilian president Lula has rejected a German proposal to send weapons to Ukraine before pressing forward on the absolute fact that NATO's bloodthirsty warmongering is to blame for the necessity of the Russian intervention and subsequent peacekeeping operation in Ukraine, Europe's #1 exporter of rentboys and camwhores:

"If one doesn't want to, two can't fight," Lula told reporters, implying Ukraine as well had a role in Russia's invasion.

"I think the reason for the war between Russia and Ukraine also needs to be clearer. Is it because of NATO? Is it because of territorial claims? Is it because of entry into Europe? The world has little information about that," Lula added.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... af-scholz/


Viva Lula!

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Well that was a very quick pivot Saxi! A couple weeks ago he was the leader of an illegitimate gov't you wanted overthrown. Now he's 'wonderful'!


Yes. I was wondering if I'd got my Brazilian presidents mixed up, myself for a moment. But no it was just weathercock whethercockSaxi.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:42 pm

I have an immovable moral philosophy and will adopt and drop those politicians who mirror it without blinking an eye. This makes me different from, say, Biden supporters who stick with him as this worldview changes from week to week. It's the difference between ideology and personality cult.

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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:23 pm

Are we at war yet?
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:25 pm

saxitoxin wrote:I have an immovable moral philosophy and will adopt and drop those politicians who mirror it without blinking an eye. This makes me different from, say, Biden supporters who stick with him as this worldview changes from week to week. It's the difference between ideology and personality cult.

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I’m pretty sure that’s not an actual quote.

You have video?
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:26 pm

I recall some statement like that


"The idea that we're going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in, American pilots and American crews, just understand. Don't kid yourself, no matter what you all say, that's called World War Three, okay?" Biden said in his serious-sounding staccato tone.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention

Postby mookiemcgee on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:27 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:The wonderful new Brazilian president Lula has rejected a German proposal to send weapons to Ukraine before pressing forward on the absolute fact that NATO's bloodthirsty warmongering is to blame for the necessity of the Russian intervention and subsequent peacekeeping operation in Ukraine, Europe's #1 exporter of rentboys and camwhores:

"If one doesn't want to, two can't fight," Lula told reporters, implying Ukraine as well had a role in Russia's invasion.

"I think the reason for the war between Russia and Ukraine also needs to be clearer. Is it because of NATO? Is it because of territorial claims? Is it because of entry into Europe? The world has little information about that," Lula added.

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine ... af-scholz/


Viva Lula!

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Well that was a very quick pivot Saxi! A couple weeks ago he was the leader of an illegitimate gov't you wanted overthrown. Now he's 'wonderful'!


Yes. I was wondering if I'd got my Brazilian presidents mixed up, myself for a moment. But no it was just weathercock micropeenSaxi.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:31 pm

HitRed wrote:https://nypost.com/2022/03/11/thats-called-world-war-iii-biden-defends-decision-not-to-send-jets-to-ukraine/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... three.html


Did you read the article?

“The idea that we’re going to send in offensive equipment and have planes and tanks and trains going in with American pilots and American crews — just understand, don’t kid yourself, no matter what y’all say, that’s called World War III,” Biden told a gathering of House Democrats in Philadelphia.


.. going in with American pilots and American crews…

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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:42 pm

HitRed wrote:https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2022/03/11/biden-moving-troops-into-ukraine-thats-called-world-war-iii/7007765001/


Again…this is about troops and NOT tanks.

There is a big difference between giving Ukraine tanks… and putting American boots on the ground.

Either you are willfully ignorant and pretending you don’t see the difference…
or you are just an idiot.

Which is it?

There’s NO OTHER VALID OPTION.

Saxi… please remove the fake and misleading Biden “quote”.
It’s been documented as false.

Thanks.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:44 pm

Bradley’s are a better option. :-$
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:46 pm

HitRed wrote:Bradley’s are a better option. :-$


I’ll take that as willfully ignorant.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:53 pm

Abrams are not what Ukraine needs.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:00 pm

Soviet area bridges can’t handle 75 tons of Abrams.

Since its introduction, the Abrams has just gotten heavier and heavier. The Cold War-era M1 has since given way to a behemoth that weighs nearly 75 tons. The newest Abrams variant has essentially reached the upgrade limit in terms of how much more weight it can support. In particular, it has become a logistical headache and may be too heavy to be combat effective.

At the 70+ ton weight point, American Abrams tanks are not easily transportable or recoverable. Simple tactical maneuvers such as crossing bridges and driving down roads is a challenge, in particular in theaters like eastern Europe, as infrastructure in there can have a lower weight limit than in the United States or Western Europe. Ironically the Abrams has become more logistically complicated as it has become better armed and better protected, resulting in a combat-questionable platform.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:04 pm

HitRed wrote:Soviet area bridges can’t handle 75 tons of Abrams.

Since its introduction, the Abrams has just gotten heavier and heavier. The Cold War-era M1 has since given way to a behemoth that weighs nearly 75 tons. The newest Abrams variant has essentially reached the upgrade limit in terms of how much more weight it can support. In particular, it has become a logistical headache and may be too heavy to be combat effective.

At the 70+ ton weight point, American Abrams tanks are not easily transportable or recoverable. Simple tactical maneuvers such as crossing bridges and driving down roads is a challenge, in particular in theaters like eastern Europe, as infrastructure in there can have a lower weight limit than in the United States or Western Europe. Ironically the Abrams has become more logistically complicated as it has become better armed and better protected, resulting in a combat-questionable platform.


That may or may not be true…depends on the ground you are fighting on.

I trust American Generals and the Joint Chiefs more than I trust your “expertise”.

That wasn’t the point of my comments anyway… which was related to Saxi’s fake “quote” which you tried to weakly confirm as valid… but which your own links demonstrated as false.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:06 pm

That wasn’t the point of my comments anyway… which was related to Saxi’s fake “quote” which you tried to weakly confirm as valid… but which your own links demonstrated as false.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:07 pm

It's an accurate synthesis of a Biden quote. I'll look it up for you, provided you first agree to provide me some form of compensation for my time. I'm tired of having to constantly serve as your personal search engine, always proving you wrong time and time again. It's exhausting and boring. You'll have to start accepting a penalty each time you make these nuisance requests.

In the meantime, while you're deciding what you'll pay me for my services, here's Biden saying he opposes vaccine mandates and would not impose them:



Here's Biden imposing a vaccine mandate 120 days later (immediately suspended by court order, of course):



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Here's Biden voting to overturn Roe v Wade:

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news ... 36859b5c89

Here's a particularly wild-eyed Biden saying anyone who would vote to overturn Roe v Wade is a dangerous extremist -

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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby jimboston on Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:08 pm

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That wasn’t the point of my comments anyway… which was related to Saxi’s fake “quote” which you tried to weakly confirm as valid… but which your own links demonstrated as false.


OK… I switch my vote.

Not willfully ignorant.
Just another idiot.
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Re: Lula Confirms - NATO at Fault for Russian Intervention!

Postby HitRed on Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:08 pm

That wasn’t the point of my comments anyway… which was related to Saxi’s fake “quote” which you tried to weakly confirm as valid… but which your own links demonstrated as false.


False, I was posting so the truth would be known. Multiple links and a video.
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