Okay. I didnt catch the Vig softclaim from Pepe. That does move him onto my town list.
PepeAtila wrote:Fist of all I'm going to believe you, even because now I realize you were wrong and that is why I did vote against you, I think was important.
PepeAtila on 26 Sep 2023, 21:51(pag 34) [quote="PepeAtila"][quote="strike wolf"]Because as I've already said more than once, I don't trust you or your play style Son!c. All I can confirm is that you didn't [b]personally[/b] send in the kill on Charle. It doesnt mean you werent part of the mafia team who did. It doesnt mean that you didnt try to kill someone else night 1 and just failed....
Explain how you confirm that Sonic didn't try to kill doc Charle, but perhaps Sonic tried to kill someone else ... (or I read wrongly?)
Vote Strike[/quote][/spoiler]
so now
unvote Strike
But I don't understand why you changed what you were thinking about Sonic.
[quote="strike wolf"]Because as I've already said more than once, I don't trust you or your play style Son!c. All I can confirm is that you didn't [b]personally[/b] send in the kill on Charle. It doesnt mean you werent part of the mafia team who did. It doesnt mean that you didnt try to kill someone else night 1 and just failed. There were still a lot of ways you could be mafia or 3rd party. Die fledermaus is a pretty strong claim but not one I considered guaranteed. Especially since all the town members killed so far weren't significant characters in the show and my own character only appeared in one episode which suggests to me that Dega did indeed leave room for strong fake claims. Then you seemed to be really pushing against the Raz wagon which I thought seemed odd and brought up The idea that The Tick could be 3rd party. It made no sense that you would think heroes were third party unless:
1. You werent a hero. In which case, the Die Fledermaus soft claim was a lie. Very scummy.
Or
2. Our dear Die Fledermaus was third party and thus thought other heroes would be too. Probably survivor since he's usually described as a coward.
However, your actions of being pretty aggressive made even less sense as a survivor than as scum. So I leaned into option 1. Then, Raz flipped 3rd party, meaning you two weren't connected and your concern was possibly legitimate. I also failed to consider that your action just didn't go through on N1 which I really should have.[/quote]
strike wolf wrote:Since when is it accepted fact that mafia has 2 kills on top of Fusi's electrocution mechanic?
I think Mafia had 2 killers (Fusi and another)
about day 2: I dont understand how or who did kill Fusi.(fusibaseball has been blown up!).
Perhaps 'to be preforming the faction kill' did not allow Fusi electrically charge any player?. Did he receive a bomb? - so the Bomber is not scum(3P) ?.
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[u]Name:[/u]
[list][*][b][color=#FF0000]Shiela Eel[/color][/b][/list]
[u]Role:[/u]
[list][*][b][color=#FF0000]Mafia, Electrifier[/color][/b][/list]
[u]Abilities:[/u]
[list][*][url=https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Electrifier]Electrifier[/url]: Each night, if you are not performing the faction kill, you may target a player to electrically charge them. If an electrically charged player ever targets another electrically charged player, both players will die.[/list]
Just I don't undertand about the 'faction kill' because I doubt if you blocking Sonic means something or not for Mafia.
But even when I think he is 3P, ... he is very slippery.[/quote]
Honestly, i dont think Son!c is town. I still find it hard to believe he could be town with a hero role and have believed that The Tick would be 3rd party. I wanted to reconsider my position on him based on new info provided by N2 and see if I still wanted to push him. I also wanted to look at other players. At some point, I want to say a bit before I confirmed Son!cs soft claim, EW seemed to be backing off him. He hasnt confirmed why but from what I've read at that point and since, I think I get the gist of what EW discovered and if I'm right, I would have to agree that Son!c is likely not mafia.
So ultimately I think he's probably third party and I would rather focus on finding mafia than pursuing him at the moment. I kind of want EW to explain more clearly why he changed his position but trust him enough that I don't think he should be pushed to confirm.
