The Tick Mafia - JUSTICE PREVAILS!

[traffic133]

no time tonight so i will post my role tomoz some time


vote bax

[degaston]

Vote Count:

• General Bax : 5 (PepeAtila, SoN!c, Charle, *Pixar*, traffic133)
  swang918 : 1 (General Bax)
  
  No Vote : 5 (Darin44, Ragian, strike wolf, swang918, TrafalgarLaw01)

11 Alive, 6 votes needed to lynch

[TrafalgarLaw01]

no time tonight so i will post my role tomoz some time


vote bax

How long can it take to write ur role, but enough to vote?

[SoN!c]

no time tonight so i will post my role tomoz some time


vote bax

How long can it take to write ur role, but enough to vote?

Yes exactly.

But for now Bax needs to claim and Swang needs to explain the red tape. ASAP

Tick Tok

[strike wolf]

no time tonight so i will post my role tomoz some time


vote bax

Someone unvote. We need to hear from Swang if no one else before we actually lynch Bax.

Vote Traffic

[SoN!c]

no time tonight so i will post my role tomoz some time


vote bax

Someone unvote. We need to hear from Swang if no one else before we actually lynch Bax.

Vote Traffic

I get the unvote idea but time is up in a way..im not unvoting unless traf or pix ask me to do so.
The saying is "I'll take Gas, Ass or Grass, because nobody rides for free".

Did not see any of that stuff coming from our silent partners. We need something and we need it now

[SoN!c]

So right now, I'll take Gas, Ass, Grass or Baxs. Because nobody rides for free

[strike wolf]

Time running out is why we need to be sure on this lynch. Not just lynch Bax before we have all the facts. I think he's scummy but I've also found out from others that he has not been overly cooperative in other games and I don't trust Swang and Traffic so yes. I want more time and pressure to go after them as well.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I agree with Strike. Bax once was a cop once and didnt even defend himself.
So better also put preassure on swang and traffic.
Why lynch bax before traffic post his role or swang explain the tape?

[SoN!c]

Look EW said "Ride the Train, drive the Train".

Bax and Swang are the 2 suspects unless we have a masterbrain among us, but then the masterbrain will win because a player like Bax did not do shit. So that gives the exact same outcome. Either way, thats enough to lynch.

Bax needs to claim asap. Tick tok.

If Traf says i should unvote i will. But not by heart

[TrafalgarLaw01]

I am not saying we dont lynch bax today. I say no yet

[SoN!c]

Unvote Bax

[SoN!c]

But i wanna see him lynched - we will never be sure "on a 100% level" and Bax did not contribute anything the entire game. But he voted more than once..

EW voted Bax on D3.

And Bax just says "im town" thats all

Even if Bax is town the win chance % for town will rise when a non-contributing player like that is lynched. And Bax will not change. We can wait for days... not gonna happen.

I say time is up and we lynch him asap.

But ok lets give him another 24 hours. Then time is up?

[PepeAtila]

just in case ...
But please Bax claim soon.
it has to be red unvote

[SoN!c]

just in case ...
But please Bax claim soon.
it has to be red unvote

Yes, bax just votes/plays his own idea.. he never alligned with town. Or town strat. What advantage does town has with a player like bax in their ranks? And that is if he is town???. Most players read "scum" on Bax..

[SoN!c]

Losing patience here..

[TrafalgarLaw01]

There is no rush if Bax doesnt say anything we lynch bax. But wait till tomorrow for traffic to post his role and for swang to explain the tape.
Just be patient, we have the votes to lynch bax anytime if it comes to it.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

By tomorrow I mean friday not D5

[swang918]

I see that I'm very popular, with Extreme, strike, Pixar, and Charle all visiting me last night. I feel like a celebrity!

as for the red tape--
I am Mayor Blank. Spineless and ineffectual mayor of the city. I guess that's where the red tape comes from.

I can claim my game role as well if there's a push for it.

[Darin44]

There is no rush if Bax doesnt say anything we lynch bax. But wait till tomorrow for traffic to post his role and for swang to explain the tape.
Just be patient, we have the votes to lynch bax anytime if it comes to it.

I agree I would like to hear what these 3 have to say
I have read everything after the lynch but need to go back to read 38&39 I think I miss a few claims in there

[swang918]

I visited Swang. So it's safe to say he did not perform the kill on EW unless I was somehow redirected.

With his thoughts on there being a Redirector and saying he thought he knew who dropped the Smoke Bomb, I thought he was soft claiming Item Cop or Role Cop but just being the Cop would explain why he was suddenly 100% convinced that Son!c was town D3. I'm a bit surprised he didn't use his investigation on Son!c N1 actually.

Only 1 kill, probably mafia but would like to hear from Pepe on who and if he targeted anyone last night.

There are probably between 3-4 mafia left so we are getting close to Myslynch & Lose or Lynch or Lose time.

Definitively town:

1. Me-The Doorman Roleblocker
2. Pix-Tracker
3. Rage-The Tick
4. Pepe-Vigilante

Almost certainly town.

5. Son!c-Die Fledermaus
6. Trafalgar-Caped Chameleon-Absorber

That leaves

7. Darin
8. Swang
9. Bax
10. Traffic
11. Charle

As the most likely scum in my eyes. Swang does not seem to be the one who sent in the night kill. So Darin, Charle, Traffic and Bax would be the first 4 on my list to look into.

Ebwopping and noticing that none of the bottom 5 have dropped any definitive name or role claim that I can remember.

There is a fallacy here. The reason you have the top people in your town list is, I would imagine, because they've claimed roles or names and have been corroborated to a degree or other. Like that's how they got to be in your town list. So by default the ones left are going to be the ones who haven't claimed. So to say the bottom five (including me) are scummy, and then to emphasize that we haven't claimed yet, is sort of double counting the same thing.

[strike wolf]

Hmmm...I don't recall anything with Mayor Blank and red tape but wont rule it out. First thought was maybe a mayoral sash but it doesnt look like he usually wears one.. Son!c? Anyone else who's watched a bit of the series?

Updated claims list:

1. Rag-The Tick
2. Pix-Four-Legged Man tracker. N1: Strike (Son!c). N2 Rag (Blocked). N3. Swang (Nowhere) n3: EW: Swang
3. Strike Wolf-The Doorman-Roleblocker N1. Son!c. N2: Pix. N3: Swang
4. Son!c-Die Fleder maus
5. Trafalgar-Crusading Chameleon-Absorber
6. Charle-Flavor Cop. N1. No action. N2: Pix (lots of feet) n3: Swang (Red Tape)
7. Swang-Mayor Blank
8. Pepe-Vigilante
9. Darin
10. Traffic
11. Bax

I don't feel Mayor Blank is a good enough claim to clear Swang. So I definitely want to hear a full claim. Darin, Traffic and Bax should follow up too.

Flavor cop, I don't think proves town alignment but doesn't read particularly strong as a scum role either. Charles targets also make sense from a scum hunting perspective. So I think he's Town at the moment.

To be fair Swang, the claims have been corroborated in some form or another.

1. Rag-Tick is 100% in the game and 100% to be town.
2. Son!c-EW was cop and all but announced that he'd gotten a town result on him. So Son!c is either investigation proof or town.
3. Traf-Corroborated through successful Counterclaim on DDS. Can only be scum if Scum got Crusading Chameleon as a safe claim and knew DDS was lying because of that.
4. Pix-Tracking actions have been corroborated by my own actions.
5. pepe-This game almost certainly has a vig and hes taken credit for the night kill on Loose with no counter claim.
6. Me-Corroborated by actions involving Pix. Role blocker like vig is a very common role for town. Though, can also be mafia.

The non-corroborated claims (Raz and DDS) were both lynched. So it's not just about there being claims but how well those claims can be backed up.

[swang918]

I assume the red tape is because I'm a politician and an incompetent one so lots of red tape useless bureaucracy.

[swang918]

Also I don't like that we are just looking at the less active players only. Not all the more vocal players are confirmed town in my opinion. In my opinion the only near certain towns are Ragian, Pixar, and Pepe.
Sonic is up there as well because of Extreme's defense on D3, most likely got investigated and showed town. But there's a possibility however slight that he's a godfather. Extreme himself even considered this:

What if Sonic is something like godfather and playing us all...

this was on D3 so would've been after he checked sonic and got a town result. but anyway I feel like the godfather possibility is pretty unlikely because we just had a godfather in elementary school (I wasn't there but I read the thread.) So most likely sonic is town, just not as strongly as the top 3.

strike: night actions and role are completely corroborated. But doesn't mean he's town.

Law: This is a blind spot for town I think. Everyone has Law as town from the DDS kill. But I don't rule out a creative scum doing an aggressive gambit by claiming early and lynching a 3p to gain town cred. Killing DDS doesn't hurt scum at all. If Law is scum this would've been a high reward no risk move and I think he is certainly smart enough to recognize this. In fact all we have is the character claim of crusading chameleon, we have no corroboration on the absorber role. If he's scum fake claiming absorber then it's a great fake claim because no town player would dare visit him since they'd lose their own power for the next day. Even if he is in fact absorber then that still doesn't rule out scum for him.

Not saying strike or law are actually scummy, just that they're closer to neutral than full town for me.

Then we have darin traffic charle who are all kind of in the same neutral tier for me. For Charle the only scummy thing he did was when he voted for me right after Extreme tried to push a "swang or Charle" choice. But I don't see why a town would never do the same. Darin and traffic haven't said enough to push above or below neutral for me.

so that leaves Bax who is really not doing himself any favors. So I'll vote bax if we get there. I just don't think we should tunnel vision into strikes list. Strike himself is not cleared yet imo.

[traffic133]

all i will say is that no one is out of suspicion of being scum ,,i have not done any night actions nor had any on me but if you do i will give you a static bang.... my tuppence worth