Cheers for the well-wishes, guys <3
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Unvote (Was I voting?) I'm caught up, but there are several things that I feel that I have lost track of, so I'm probably in dire need of rereading the entire thread again. Shoot me.
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Hope you're feeling better, EW :*
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strike wolf wrote:I do want to clarify that if Traf flips town and there's no vig kill on Son!c, it does mean that MacReady was likely the N1 recruit but does not necessarily mean that Son!c is the recruiter. BTing him and if it comes clean, he can tell us who he believes is the recruited MacReady is the better play. Otherwise, I think I'd be in favor of Bting Extreme.
I gotta say that I've been of the thought that Strike is so town that he reeks. Everything he says is well thought out and balanced. This, however, strikes *giggles* as too planned. It involves Traf, Son!c, whoever MacReady is, and Extreme. It closes the game if wrong - for instance if Strike is The Thing - but if e.g. MacReady is (already) recruited just that would f*ck things up. It is not unthinkable that Strike is The Thing because he is damn good at this game. I'm just saying that this is dangerous and the might be the first time where I start to suspect Strike.
@Strike, have you voted to BT anyone or lynch anyone?
strike wolf wrote:Oh good. I'm not the only one Starting to wonder of EWs idle comment about Son!c and Traf both being cult was right. Thought I was just going crazy.
Elaborate, please.
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Votanic wrote:strike wolf wrote:Extreme Ways wrote:strike wolf wrote:I do want to clarify that if Traf flips town and there's no vig kill on Son!c, it does mean that MacReady was likely the N1 recruit but does not necessarily mean that Son!c is the recruiter. BTing him and if it comes clean, he can tell us who he believes is the recruited MacReady is the better play. Otherwise, I think I'd be in favor of Bting Extreme.
Or maybe it was a one-shot vig.
Unlikely but possible. If I remember the movie right, the Flamethrower does eventually run dry and I guess it's not impossible that DDS factored that in.
Gee strike, thanks for this attempt at showing up the hypocrisy behind Ragian's lynch vote on me.... but I doubt it will have any effect.
An advocate of a double standard can always come up with a reason for justifying its existence.
Seriously...stop it. Surely, you know the difference between flavour speculation that makes sense in a context and flavour speculation with little to no relevance in order to appear productive. Strike's point is related to any limit to the vig (and his litote even indicates that it is unlikely), so here Strike takes someone's argument, which he starts out by calling unlikely, but then he admits that it could be possible depending on how much DDS has looked at flavour.
Here's my reply to you looking at flavour. Please notice - in the spoiler - that you even agree that you won't find any answers there.
Ragian wrote:[quote="Votanic"][quote="Ragian"]I can dig what you're saying there, Traf. Would've loved it if you had put quotes to substantiate that because I don't have the time to walk through D1 right now. I will, though. (I should also add that I didn't find Pix scummy apart from his lack of participation which he blamed on RL.)
I get an odd feeling that Votanic is talking a lot about the film and the what ifs rather than looking at people's gameplay, but it's only something that I've just picked up based on this post below:
[quote="Votanic"][quote="Ragian"]Looks like a kill from the scene. Kinda obvious, too. Why would you think it was a modkill?
Mostly because there seemed to be a consensus that all town players were Vanilla... and the Thing would presumably convert a player, not kill him.
Actually, the Thing in the movie does kill just as often as he converts, but never with fire. In fact, fire was only used by the humans to kill the Thing.
The two characters in the movie that I recall using flamethrowers were MacReady and Childs...
Also, it does seem a little odd for a vigilante player to target Pixar, though I suppose lack of participation is generally considered scummy.[/quote]
I don't know that there was a consensus about only VTs in the game... And then there's the "this stuff happens in the film". It rubs me the wrong way as a way of posting without saying anything. Votanic does, however, give his take on Pix.[/quote]
Ragian, take the time to watch the movie. Besides being a great film, it will also show you what inspired DDS to make this game. Of course, he must have changed many things, but some of the movie will be in the game mechanics. Do I think I'll find concrete answers there, No, I do not, but it actually feels more grounded than a lot of the fatuous scum-tells being bandied about.
The only two people that stand out as 'extra special' to me are Sonic for his too-scummy-to be scum (or not*) play style and dega for being blood-tested, but that was yesterday. Still don't get why Traf or EW are considered extra scummy by some.
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If Sonic does turn out to be the Thing and gets away with it because nobody though it was worth BTing him, I will face-palm myself hard enough to give myself a concussion, therefore:
BT Sonic
As for the vigilante, if there is a vigilante (and evidence suggests there is), he doesn't have particularly good aim, at least so far. That's totally understandable, but if town wants to be cautious about lynches it should also encourage the vigilante to not be reckless either. I wonder if he has a limited number of flame thrower uses? ...and I also wonder if he still would have that power if converted? A scary thought, but doubtful ...though in the movie (yes, that again) nothing stops the Thing from using human weapons.[/quote][/spoiler]
Well, I've seen the film [well, this is a lie, but maybe I have seen it while I was ill. I haven't, but maybe], and I have played flavoured mafia before. You won't win the game by guessing what the mod has used. It's just flavour. You even agree that you won't find any clues in it. So leave it and look at people's play.
You want to BT Sonic just because you don't want to lose to him? Weak. I'm on your case now.
BT Votanic
FP'ed by Votanic[/quote]
Also, please notice the other point that you've ignored (I've added the red colour). You wanted to BT Sonic because you basically would feel foolish if you were fooled by his foolishness. The rest of your post mentions a few players, but it doesn't really say anything besides you not knowing what to say about them. It's all of this in unison that made me want to BT you because I have seen it so many times [people looking at flavour and not at play in order to appear active] where they turned out to be scum. Obviously, I don't hate flavour. Especially not in the beginning of a game.
Now, you will see that I have unvoted you - even though I think my points for suspecting you are valid. I've unvoted you because Strike's point that you're probably not the recruiter is good. And Sonic's point - yes - that it is weird that you wanted to BT me fully aware that I was on your case and knowing that I would be cleared (if you were The Thing).
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I find that Charle's latest posts have been somewhat insightful. He has earned himself some brownie...townie points for now.
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When I find time outside catching up at work, I want to have a look at Strike's posts to see if he voted anyone during the game and to see his reads on anyway. I feel like he's a tad late to the party, and it is rubbing me the wrong way.
