The Thing TOWN WINS!

[strike wolf]

He'll shift to me or Vot and act like he was never really sure about Traf anyways and any indication that he was was a trap to get his real scum target to slip up which he'll say we did when we made [insert supposed scumtell post here] and then wonder why no one will believe him.

[degaston]

@Sonic, let's say we BT Traf and he comes up town. What do we do, then?

He told us what to do back on D1:

And i don't see the consensus on The Plan so Lets lynch Traf. And If im wrong you can lynch me tomorrow. Short and sweet.

[SoN!c]

@Sonic, let's say we BT Traf and he comes up town. What do we do, then?

He told us what to do back on D1:

And i don't see the consensus on The Plan so Lets lynch Traf. And If im wrong you can lynch me tomorrow. Short and sweet.

He is not gonna flip town. 100% The game is played

Or believe the slapstick sync that Charle still is Macready like Traf says??? Do you really believe Town Traf posts this nonsense??. That the "flametrower" is found by Charle then? ( or that he stil holds it??)?

+ dismiss Traf's "panic" vote..??

Even before that, i posted Traf is the Thing and pointed to EW the recruit just before end D2 (posting "Votanic is not the recruit" in bold).

EW was the recruit.. Swang was voting Traf...

Can't believe this nonsense - it's right in front of your eyes???

Traf is the Thing, EW recruit N1, Charle recruit N2.

I won't shift to anybody else because there is nobody else to shift to.

[SoN!c]

@Sonic, let's say we BT Traf and he comes up town. What do we do, then?

He told us what to do back on D1:

And i don't see the consensus on The Plan so Lets lynch Traf. And If im wrong you can lynch me tomorrow. Short and sweet.

Yes, im that sure. 100%

[SoN!c]

@Sonic, let's say we BT Traf and he comes up town. What do we do, then?

He told us what to do back on D1:

And i don't see the consensus on The Plan so Lets lynch Traf. And If im wrong you can lynch me tomorrow. Short and sweet.

He is not gonna flip town. 100% The game is played

Or believe the slapstick sync that Charle still is Macready like Traf says??? Do you really believe Town Traf posts this nonsense??. That the "flametrower" is found by Charle then? ( or that he stil holds it??)?

+ dismiss Traf's "panic" vote..??

Even before that, i posted Traf is the Thing and pointed to EW the recruit just before end D2 (posting "Votanic is not the recruit" in bold).


EW was the recruit.. Swang was voting Traf...

Can't believe this nonsense - it's right in front of your eyes???

Traf is the Thing, EW recruit N1, Charle recruit N2.

I won't shift to anybody else because there is nobody else to shift to.

"flametrower is found by Charle" Sorry this is the only conclusion then as DDS said the flamethrower is found... c'mon just BT Traf this can't be true

[Votanic]

@Sonic, let's say we BT Traf and he comes up town. What do we do, then?

He told us what to do back on D1:

And i don't see the consensus on The Plan so Lets lynch Traf. And If im wrong you can lynch me tomorrow. Short and sweet.

He is not gonna flip town. 100% The game is played

Or believe the slapstick sync that Charle still is Macready like Traf says??? Do you really believe Town Traf posts this nonsense??. That the "flametrower" is found by Charle then? ( or that he stil holds it??)?

+ dismiss Traf's "panic" vote..??

Even before that, i posted Traf is the Thing and pointed to EW the recruit just before end D2 (posting "Votanic is not the recruit" in bold).


EW was the recruit.. Swang was voting Traf...

Can't believe this nonsense - it's right in front of your eyes???

Traf is the Thing, EW recruit N1, Charle recruit N2.

I won't shift to anybody else because there is nobody else to shift to.

"flametrower is found by Charle" Sorry this is the only conclusion then as DDS said the flamethrower is found... c'mon just BT Traf this can't be true

You are misquoting again... accidentally?
DDS wrote:

An unlikely hero has found the flamethrower abandoned.

...which is actually a weird thing to say. I mean the abandoned flamethrower makes it sound like McReady was either converted or ran out of vigs.
...but then who is the "unlikely hero"? That part is confusing... I don't think it would be McReady, not if he was the one who abandoned it.

[degaston]

I think this issue needs to be settled.

BT Traf

[SoN!c]

@Sonic, let's say we BT Traf and he comes up town. What do we do, then?

He told us what to do back on D1:

And i don't see the consensus on The Plan so Lets lynch Traf. And If im wrong you can lynch me tomorrow. Short and sweet.

He is not gonna flip town. 100% The game is played

Or believe the slapstick sync that Charle still is Macready like Traf says??? Do you really believe Town Traf posts this nonsense??. That the "flametrower" is found by Charle then? ( or that he stil holds it??)?

+ dismiss Traf's "panic" vote..??

Even before that, i posted Traf is the Thing and pointed to EW the recruit just before end D2 (posting "Votanic is not the recruit" in bold).


EW was the recruit.. Swang was voting Traf...

Can't believe this nonsense - it's right in front of your eyes???

Traf is the Thing, EW recruit N1, Charle recruit N2.

I won't shift to anybody else because there is nobody else to shift to.

"flametrower is found by Charle" Sorry this is the only conclusion then as DDS said the flamethrower is found... c'mon just BT Traf this can't be true

You are misquoting again... accidentally?
DDS wrote:

An unlikely hero has found the flamethrower abandoned.

...which is actually a weird thing to say. I mean the abandoned flamethrower makes it sound like McReady was either converted or ran out of vigs.
...but then who is the "unlikely hero"? That part is confusing... I don't think it would be McReady, not if he was the one who abandoned it.

Its not a quote but a conclusion.

The only conclusion possible.

Vig charle converted and back up vig swang killed = the reason the flamethrower was abandoned..

Traf and Charle both saying Charle still has it...

[strike wolf]

Vote Traf

[degaston]

Vote Traf

You want to lynch him before the results of the BT are known?

[strike wolf]

Vote Traf

You want to lynch him before the results of the BT are known?

No but I am also trying to state my confidence in this being the right vote. Son!c adds a lot of stuff to his cases that I think actually weakens his actual position and it makes it hard for people to believe him when he's right. However, Trafs weird agreement towards Charle when the scene appears to contradict Charle's statements is just too odd for me to ignore. So I just want to add my weight to Son!c's position. At this point, I'm pretty sure it's either Traf or Vot with Charle as the N2 recruit.

[degaston]

Vote Traf

You want to lynch him before the results of the BT are known?

No but I am also trying to state my confidence in this being the right vote. Son!c adds a lot of stuff to his cases that I think actually weakens his actual position and it makes it hard for people to believe him when he's right. However, Trafs weird agreement towards Charle when the scene appears to contradict Charle's statements is just too odd for me to ignore. So I just want to add my weight to Son!c's position. At this point, I'm pretty sure it's either Traf or Vot with Charle as the N2 recruit.

Placing your vote there does nothing but provide the opportunity for the recruiter (if it's not Traf) and his recruit to insta-lynch Traf and end the day without a BT.
It was stupid of Sonic to do it, but what else can we expect.
I would expect more from you.

[strike wolf]

Unvote

You're right. I was still thinking that we needed 5.

[TrafalgarLaw01]

Hehe should I selfvote? I've been waiting to see who is on the BT or not as its info, but might speed things up. Quite interesting for people to lynch before a BT

[Votanic]

Unvote

You're right. I was still thinking that we needed 5.

Please... BT strike

[Ragian]

There's the thing and his one recruit as one died, right? So, we're five against two. We know it can't be dega, me, or charle. Right? So, it's between Sonic, Strike, Traf, or Votanic.

Right now, I'm seeing Votanic trying to steer it away from Traf and onto Strike because Strike opted for a lynch vote rather than a test. This was also scrutinised by Dega. So, if Votanic is trying to steer heat away from Traf, it would indicate that the two are in cahoots. If Traf if town, however, I would think that Votanic is also town.

What am I missing?

[SoN!c]

Unvote

You're right. I was still thinking that we needed 5.

Please... BT strike

Votanic, you of all people should believe Charle no longer holds the flamethrower and Traf defending the fact he does is - by itself - scummy enough to BT..

The "panic" vote by Traf on back up vig Swang (who was voting Traf by the way) is too.

Town needs to be united so with 3 BT votes on Traf do not scatter.

Ragian and Deg are 100% town. Charle is converted. So for you its me, Traf or Strike.

If you have any doubt that the Thing is Traf you should feel confident Traf gets to vote the lynch (if BT flips him town). Then the new back up vig (the unlikely townie) can flame the other if needed.. no need to BT Strike..

In short: if you believe somebody else holds the flamethrower now (not charle) vote BT Traf.

[SoN!c]

There's the thing and his one recruit as one died, right? So, we're five against two. We know it can't be dega, me, or charle. Right? So, it's between Sonic, Strike, Traf, or Votanic.

Right now, I'm seeing Votanic trying to steer it away from Traf and onto Strike because Strike opted for a lynch vote rather than a test. This was also scrutinised by Dega. So, if Votanic is trying to steer heat away from Traf, it would indicate that the two are in cahoots. If Traf if town, however, I would think that Votanic is also town.

What am I missing?

Your missing the unlikely hero that wants to find out who to flame if Traf flips town..

Just BT Traf - game is played

[degaston]

There's the thing and his one recruit as one died, right? So, we're five against two. We know it can't be dega, me, or charle. Right? So, it's between Sonic, Strike, Traf, or Votanic.

Right now, I'm seeing Votanic trying to steer it away from Traf and onto Strike because Strike opted for a lynch vote rather than a test. This was also scrutinised by Dega. So, if Votanic is trying to steer heat away from Traf, it would indicate that the two are in cahoots. If Traf if town, however, I would think that Votanic is also town.

What am I missing?

I think it's almost certain that Charle was recruited last night. The Thing knew that he was the vig, and probably hoped it would eliminate that power. Swang flipped as a backup vig, but given the DDS post about someone finding the flamethrower, I think it's possible there was more than one backup.

Either way, if Charle was converted, then the Thing has no other recruits, and our problem is that too many town players are playing very scummy.

[Votanic]

Sonic, that's an interesting theory that there is another back-up vig... Hmm, maybe that is what DDS meant by an 'unlikely hero'...
And don't take this the wrong way, Sonic, but you would be the unlikeliest hero, wouldn't you... or a total liar.
However, that would be great if Town does still has a BT, a lynch, and a vig.

strike's voting for a lynch before the BT and then claiming to forget how many votes are needed is just unbelievable.
That is one of the most obviously scummy things I've seen all game. Doesn't anyone else think so?

I suppose we could BT Traf, and if he is town, lynch strike...
But then there is you Sonic, implying you're the new vig... which I wouldn't believe at all, except for that weird thing DDS wrote... which might mean something else.
Is it reasonable to have a second back-up vig?

I'm not opposed to BTing Traf, but I want to hear some more debate about this.

fast-posted by Dega

I see he's not sure if we should believe Sonic either...
So Dega, who do you think we should BT?

[Ragian]

That's some true shit.

So, Dega, my friend in mafia arms, what do you suggest? I can't recall all the votes and unvotes. (Where the frick is that lazy DDS dude?)

[SoN!c]

That's some true shit.

So, Dega, my friend in mafia arms, what do you suggest? I can't recall all the votes and unvotes. (Where the frick is that lazy DDS dude?)

3 bt's on Traf (me, strike and deg)

1 lynch vote on Traf (me)

Look Traf defending Charle he is "not converted" (the slapstick sync) is a real "panic" defense while the "panic" vote on Swang was not a panic move at all.

So that alone should justify the BT on Traf.

[Ragian]

Alright, alright. Get off my back

unvote vote Traf

[SoN!c]

Sonic, that's an interesting theory that there is another back-up vig... Hmm, maybe that is what DDS meant by an 'unlikely hero'...
And don't take this the wrong way, Sonic, but you would be the unlikeliest hero, wouldn't you... or a total liar.
However, that would be great if Town does still has a BT, a lynch, and a vig.

strike's voting for a lynch before the BT and then claiming to forget how many votes are needed is just unbelievable.
That is one of the most obviously scummy things I've seen all game. Doesn't anyone else think so?

I suppose we could BT Traf, and if he is town, lynch strike...
But then there is you Sonic, implying you're the new vig... which I wouldn't believe at all, except for that weird thing DDS wrote... which might mean something else.
Is it reasonable to have a second back-up vig?

I'm not opposed to BTing Traf, but I want to hear some more debate about this.

fast-posted by Dega

I see he's not sure if we should believe Sonic either...
So Dega, who do you think we should BT?

It could mean anyThing Vot. Like any townie would be the new unlikely hero because just by finding the flamethrower you would be the new hero... and unlikely as any other town character then the movie hero's Childs and Macready would be "a unlikely hero"...

Also, if i was The Thing i would have let my recruit Charle say that he got a message from DDS after "The EW Torch" saying he lost the flamethrower because after two vigs its fueltank ran empty..and was abandoned for that reason... + saying "i think the The Thing knew that (empty fueltank after 2 vigs) and that is why i was not recruited knowing all too well town would not believe me"

But instead we got the slapstick sync

[Charle]

I will wait for Traf's BT result, before I comment. I honestly did not get the PM after N2.