The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow Wolves win

[degaston]

This is 21st century.. Spice it up? But yes. Your right Dega. I prefer complicated solutions over simple ones.

I'm sure you'll have fun when you finally are on the scum team.

[Votanic]

@ Traf: Me again...Is it possible that you would have given a W.O.M.H. Town role to the Wolves in this game?
That would be a large divergence from the source material, so is it even something reasonable to consider?

[degaston]

It's just everybody should play their games like Bobby Fisher.

Fun fact: I'm only two degrees of separation away from Bobby Fischer in chess. I played many games with Erich Marchand, and even got a couple of draws. (Though he was getting up there in years at the time.)

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044408

[SoN!c]

It's just everybody should play their games like Bobby Fisher.

Fun fact: I'm only two degrees of separation away from Bobby Fischer in chess. I played many games with Erich Marchand, and even got a couple of draws. (Though he was getting up there in years at the time.)

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044408

Without a witch counterclaim (from Thor?) we have nothing - nothing at all.. Any lawyer west of the Ganges will tell you that. So Ragian is presumed town and we owe him an apology, + with Ragian saying Dega is town aswell.. well without a witch counterclaim he is...that's all folks.

[degaston]

Gee... thanks Dega... but actually I asked Ragian those questions and I'd like an answer from him.

OK, that was kind of more in response to Sonic, who quoted you and asked if I could explain it. But since he didn't add anything, I just quoted you in the reply. Sorry.

[degaston]

So im scum now - all the sudden - Deg? Are you gonna counterclaim Cupid?

I wasn't saying that you were scum. Just that scum would rather play against you than me.

[SoN!c]

So im scum now - all the sudden - Deg? Are you gonna counterclaim Cupid?

I wasn't saying that you were scum. Just that scum would rather play against you than me.

Well, "slick lawyer Dega" we don't need lawyers here - we just lynch people My uncle always said "Shoot first ask later,.. even if the guy is saying he's the postman"

[*Pixar*]

okay got a little break to respond to the people who want me to claim, take it or leave it.

I am a "little girl" kinda pissed about getting this role because of name but oh well . At the beginning of each day I receive a random sentence from the last nights mafia chat, kinda cool kinda not helpful because I don't get to see any names mentioned in these sentences.

Night 1 Chat: "i'm happy to go with whatever you guys choose including nominating me to eat someone."

--- Not real helpful, so couldn't really help much off of that.

Night 2 Chat: "I reckon I should be the one todo the dirty again though whoever it is as chances are my game is up tomorrow?"

--- I'm guessing this was Loose thinking his life was coming to an end? Honestly don't see why, he kind of claimed out of no where. It gave me the feeling we might have been in trouble if swang didn't use his action on Day 3. Thankful he did because that was a dangerous public role for a wolf.

Last Nights Chat: "im going to stay on the low low for next day as I feel this game is coming to an end for us soon."

--- Not really sure who this could be honestly, can't be thor because he hasn't posted much at all days lol but then again who knows.

[Votanic]

So many weird dynamics at Play. I will try to summarize.
Ten Players Left. How many wolves: 1, 2, maybe 3. It can't be more than 3... even 3 would be outrageously sucky this late in the game.

Votanic: Trying to channel my inner Sherlock Holmes. Fetch me a deerstalker, mirschaum and magnifying glass.
Too many players are behaving suspicious and/or daft. They can't all be wolves... I still suspect an epidemic of ergotism... or crack.

Extreme Ways: If Traf didn't tell me he was a Vanilla Townie (formerly Bonesetter), I wouldn't even believe it. Even now he seems to be treating this game as a pass... I could use a confirmed Watson, but EW is not around much, he did say was busy. I'll just ignore outlandish mindfuck theories, at least for now.

Swang918: NO CLAIM YET. Vigged the White Wolf, but could still be a wolf (Maxleod thought so...), especially if game roles are not completely random. recently brought up an incorrect memory about another game that he was not even in... No point really and it was shot down immediately. I'd like an explanation for that, but may be it is just more crazy/clueless Townie play.

Devante: Lord, Seer, and Confirmed Townie in my book. He did a great job finding the White Wolf. Who should he choose to investigate next?

*Pixar*: The Sheriff, Claimed as Little Girl (and thus Town), NO COUNTERCLAIM SO FAR I'm getting less scummy vibes from him than some of the others, but that is not strong evidence. Just now found out about his claimed role. Need to process that.

SoN!c: Claimed as Cupid (and thus Town), NO COUNTERCLAIM SO FAR. Recently some of his ideas are more reasonable, but not necessarily right.

Ewebasher: Claimed as Bear Tamer (and thus Town), NO COUNTERCLAIM SO FAR. His ability has told him that Sonic, Thor (and himself) are not Wolves. Creating the Bear Tamer role out of whole cloth would be a sophisticated subterfuge (but the wolves to talk and plan together at night...). Still I find no contradiction in his story and thus tend to believe it.

Thor60: NO CLAIM YET, Never around, What could be more fun that playing Mafia and constantly sparring with Sonic, Ragian, etc.? Ewebasher says he is not a Wolf...
I want a claim at least, but also his ideas and input. He might bring a fresh perspective. Okay, even a stale perspective, just show up!

Ragian: Claimed as Witch (and thus Town), NO COUNTERCLAIM SO FAR. Says he is the one who poisoned Charle and the Witch is the only poisoner role from W.O.M.H. that fits. Also says he resurrected Degaston on Night 2. Degaston say he was't told about this but does believe Ragian. I have questions about the Witch role. I want Ragian to explain it to us all in detail.

Degaston: NO CLAIM YET... Nothing overtly suspicious, but lately his reads seem odd somehow, too cavalier or too trusting, but that is not strong evidence.

So now I wait. I want Thor to show up, and I want questions answered by Ragian, and Traf if possible.

I also want to talk to the Defender and find out who he has protected each night so far... especially Night 1.
So yeah, I guess I do want a Mass Claim: swang, Pixar, Thor, and Dega.

FPed by Pixar.

[Votanic]

okay got a little break to respond to the people who want me to claim, take it or leave it.

I am a "little girl" kinda pissed about getting this role because of name but oh well . At the beginning of each day I receive a random sentence from the last nights mafia chat, kinda cool kinda not helpful because I don't get to see any names mentioned in these sentences.

Night 1 Chat: "i'm happy to go with whatever you guys choose including nominating me to eat someone."

--- Not real helpful, so couldn't really help much off of that.

Night 2 Chat: "I reckon I should be the one todo the dirty again though whoever it is as chances are my game is up tomorrow?"

--- I'm guessing this was Loose thinking his life was coming to an end? Honestly don't see why, he kind of claimed out of no where. It gave me the feeling we might have been in trouble if swang didn't use his action on Day 3. Thankful he did because that was a dangerous public role for a wolf.

Last Nights Chat: "im going to stay on the low low for next day as I feel this game is coming to an end for us soon."

--- Not really sure who this could be honestly, can't be thor because he hasn't posted much at all days lol but then again who knows.

Wow, this is interesting.
So the Wolves pick one of them to do the actual killing. Does this mean there is the possibility of an armed bodyguard? The Defender role in W.O.M.H. is not armed, and doesn't get to identify the wolves either. Maybe the wolves are just being extra cautious because they don't know all of Town's night defenses.
Of course, the BBW second kill and AWF conversion would be done seperately by those particular players.

The quote from Night 1, is suggestive of an inexperienced player, but not necessarily.

The quote from Night 2, does suggest LC and makes it sound like he did the kill the day before too.

The quote form Night 3, Well, it;s all relative, isn't it? One player's 'inactive level' is another player's 'very active level'. Besides, the "low low" wolf might have changed his mind as the day went on.

[swang918]

Re votanic— elementary school and prison mafia were the games i read that got me interested in playing mafia on this site. I think i mentioned this in the signup or maybe game thread for the tick game. I actually went back and read the school game thread but somehow did not catch that dega was not in on the lynch of max there.

[Votanic]

Re votanic— elementary school and prison mafia were the games i read that got me interested in playing mafia on this site. I think i mentioned this in the signup or maybe game thread for the tick game. I actually went back and read the school game thread but somehow did not catch that dega was not in on the lynch of max there.

Okay, thanks for the reply. What you say seems reasonable and I am not one to treat every error as a scum-tell.

Actually right now I'm thinking about Pixar's new intel. What do you think of that?

The Hunter probably gets to know and revenge-kill his wolf attacker. That is one reason to explain why a single wolf is chosen each night.

[Devante]

A lot to digest here. We need to hear from Thor. Sonic he’s your clan mate can you reach out. He needs to explain himself or make a claim cause little girl for pix makes sense with the being quiet, although Thor’s random post made me think it originally was him. So is there a counter claim on any of these posts?

@traf when’s our day end?

@ Pixar who you leaning towards voting? Yours counts as two right

@dega, why no claim? Sorry if I mixed you up but there’s one in the mix who hasn’t actually claimed


Technically with all the claims we are in a mass claim already so the rest need to come forward who have not claimed. If you choose not too at least explain

[*Pixar*]

A lot to digest here. We need to hear from Thor. Sonic he’s your clan mate can you reach out. He needs to explain himself or make a claim cause little girl for pix makes sense with the being quiet, although Thor’s random post made me think it originally was him. So is there a counter claim on any of these posts?

@traf when’s our day end?

@ Pixar who you leaning towards voting? Yours counts as two right

@dega, why no claim? Sorry if I mixed you up but there’s one in the mix who hasn’t actually claimed


Technically with all the claims we are in a mass claim already so the rest need to come forward who have not claimed. If you choose not too at least explain

If anyone I would go for Thor until I see a claim out of him, seems the most reasonable for Night 3's chat explanation so far. Unless yeah one of the wolfs changed his plans liked Vot said. I'll have to remember that I have two votes if we happen to get someone close to a lynch.

[swang918]

Re votanic— elementary school and prison mafia were the games i read that got me interested in playing mafia on this site. I think i mentioned this in the signup or maybe game thread for the tick game. I actually went back and read the school game thread but somehow did not catch that dega was not in on the lynch of max there.

Okay, thanks for the reply. What you say seems reasonable and I am not one to treat every error as a scum-tell.

Actually right now I'm thinking about Pixar's new intel. What do you think of that?

The Hunter probably gets to know and revenge-kill his wolf attacker. That is one reason to explain why a single wolf is chosen each night.

When I was a wolf in the tick, we also had to choose one wolf to do the hit. I think it might just be how online mafia works.
I don't think the Hunter has anything to do with it. Max was the Hunter and he shot Fusi who was town.

[Votanic]

Let's not rush into a lynch. What I want is Info.

I want Thor to show up and claim.

I want swang and Dega to claim too.

I want Traf to answer all the mod questions, if its appropriate.

I want to talk to the defender who ever that turns out to be.

I want Ragian to explain the details of being a Witch.

...and I also would like to know who everyone thinks should be investigated by Devante tonight.
I'll start that by suggesting Degaston.

[Devante]

I agree with everything in vots post before moving to lynch. We need intel. Historically based on how it’s gone believe we have a week prior to days end. So second this motion for those mentioned to come forward.

Side note, vot you assume I’ll survive the night but I believe defender can only pick target to protect once so I’m likely dead. But I’d not yes a general consensus would be nice which was missed last night as I didn’t think we’d be night time once someone got killed.

But fair warning I will still pick who I choose with or without consensus based on what’s best for town from my perspective

There , I have spoken…

[Devante]

To add to this…I am going to celebrate Pixar’s name day like it’s my own, kindred spirits that way. He would wish that I indulge in his absence. You’re welcome good sir, so I shall. The lord has spoken…

[Ragian]

Good morning! 5:45 here. Kid is not even up yet

1) I got a PM telling me who was eaten by the wolves and had the chance to revive said target. Given it was dega, whose experience we could defo use, I chose to revive him. I don't get these PMs now that I'm out of potions.

2) I can't know why they targeted Dega. Maybe to avoid being blocked? Maybe to get rid of a good player?

3) Don't investigate Dega tonight. It doesn't make any sense. He was targeted by the wolves N2. He is NOT a wolf. Check Pixar, Swang, Thor, or another unknown (if any). Really Dega could just claim.

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Congratulations, Pixar

[Votanic]

Good morning! 5:45 here. Kid is not even up yet

1) I got a PM telling me who was eaten by the wolves and had the chance to revive said target. Given it was dega, whose experience we could defo use, I chose to revive him. I don't get these PMs now that I'm out of potions.

2) I can't know why they targeted Dega. Maybe to avoid being blocked? Maybe to get rid of a good player?

3) Don't investigate Dega tonight. It doesn't make any sense. He was targeted by the wolves N2. He is NOT a wolf. Check Pixar, Swang, Thor, or another unknown (if any). Really Dega could just claim.

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Congratulations, Pixar

"Maybe to avoid getting blocked?"
Are you suggesting Dega is the Defender and he was defending somebody (probably strang...) on Day 2?
Is that how the Defender works? Like a Mafia Bodyguard? That he takes the hit instead of the player he is defending?

[Devante]

Vot, not gonna disagree your play has been pro town thus far for the most of it, but I’m a little confused why your jumping down throats the moment they post, seems odd

[Devante]

You’re online we can see it but it’s an auto attack right away for the most of it. Now maybe that’s you as town trying to get the rest of us townies in line I don’t know. Regardless pressure is in order. I say we do a slow lunch and Pixar holds to the end as he’s two. Again I say Thor claim y less is not worth doing so

[degaston]

I say we do a slow lunch and Pixar holds to the end as he’s two. Again I say Thor claim y less is not worth doing so

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here?
I'll try to post an analysis tomorrow. It's late.

[Ragian]

Good morning! 5:45 here. Kid is not even up yet

1) I got a PM telling me who was eaten by the wolves and had the chance to revive said target. Given it was dega, whose experience we could defo use, I chose to revive him. I don't get these PMs now that I'm out of potions.

2) I can't know why they targeted Dega. Maybe to avoid being blocked? Maybe to get rid of a good player?

3) Don't investigate Dega tonight. It doesn't make any sense. He was targeted by the wolves N2. He is NOT a wolf. Check Pixar, Swang, Thor, or another unknown (if any). Really Dega could just claim.

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Congratulations, Pixar

"Maybe to avoid getting blocked?"
Are you suggesting Dega is the Defender and he was defending somebody (probably strang...) on Day 2?
Is that how the Defender works? Like a Mafia Bodyguard? That he takes the hit instead of the player he is defending?

No. I'm suggesting that scum should never go for the obvious target because the obvious target is most likely defended.

[Ewebasher]

No. I'm suggesting that scum should never go for the obvious target because the obvious target is most likely defended.

Surely you should keep this kind of talk between you and your (potentially) inexperienced fellow scum during the night