EW's Semi-Open Matrix Madness

[Devante]

After catching up on things I'm leaning to scum is fusi/kong/charle. I wouldn't rule out Strike, Ragian or Sonic but they all seem to playing more town side to me. So I'm good with voting on one of those three.

Can we get a vote count? I lost track with all the voting/unvoting going on

Very funny Kong. But you should look over past posts before accusing someone. This is exactly what I posted four days ago. Just one page back. Now I won’t dismiss this yet but ragian is leaning more scum between those two but you I don’t doubt. Your way of posting and when you post seems completely directed I take it by someone who is leading scum group. Your timing is great too as it just adds to that. People are posting now so quick poor excuse old champ. There’s a deadline coming up right away and it’s the start of the weekend. Most are trying to get in before we miss and town is screwed. And kudos to sonic if not for a wall post I would have missed chiming in again just busy in RL. So although you’re on my vote list we’ll save you for last I think. For now I’ll vote the more dangerous of the other two so

VOTE CHARLE

Now raglan is at 2 I believe so fusi, strike, sonic, I am good switching to ragian but think first one in cleaning house should be old Charlie boy unless you guys got a good reason to switch

[Devante]

After catching up on things I'm leaning to scum is fusi/kong/charle. I wouldn't rule out Strike, Ragian or Sonic but they all seem to playing more town side to me. So I'm good with voting on one of those three.

Can we get a vote count? I lost track with all the voting/unvoting going on

Very funny Kong. But you should look over past posts before accusing someone. This is exactly what I posted four days ago. Just one page back. Now I won’t dismiss this yet but ragian is leaning more scum between those two but you I don’t doubt. Your way of posting and when you post seems completely directed I take it by someone who is leading scum group. Your timing is great too as it just adds to that. People are posting now so quick poor excuse old champ. There’s a deadline coming up right away and it’s the start of the weekend. Most are trying to get in before we miss and town is screwed. And kudos to sonic if not for a wall post I would have missed chiming in again just busy in RL. So although you’re on my vote list we’ll save you for last I think. For now I’ll vote the more dangerous of the other two so

VOTE CHARLE

Now raglan is at 2 I believe so fusi, strike, sonic, I am good switching to ragian but think first one in cleaning house should be old Charlie boy unless you guys got a good reason to switch

[Devante]

Weird the back to back posts so sorry about that likely cause I’m in patchy service.

Just one other thing Kong, you said: “ the only people we can truly trust are kingm and vot” to me, because apparently I was not. Look back at my post mate, I said exactly that. Seems rushing to post is indicative no? Starting to think with all the MIA and scatter of this game how it’s gone, and I know my absence played a part in that unfortunately, it seems that desperation is now kicking in for scum who likely thought this was in the bag. So Sonic, Strike, what say you? Switch to Charlie or stay on Ragian

[kongming3]

So why are you now not okay with voting fusi? What changed for you personally that you're now against voting someone in your top three scum list? Legitimate question which I hope you don't dismiss out of hand. And yes, time is running out which is why I tried to get you to say your thoughts just like how sonic walled you to get you back in here. Not sure why you took that personally?

We can move ahead with charle vote here potentially, but I once again sincerely ask that if you are town to be careful not to tunnel vision on people for arbitrary reasons/just because they agreed with you. This is a messy end game, town doesn't know who to trust while scum has a lot of options. It's very easy for them to side with one of the split up townsfolk and agree with what they're saying, but it doesn't in anyway clear them from suspicion. You should be trusting very few people absolutely at this stage, especially given there's been no evidence to do so. Completely fine for you to be suspicious of me, I certainly have reservations about you, but take care you're not clearing people in your head who shouldn't be cleared.

[kongming3]

FPed, again, why are you not willing to vote fusi in that case? You obviously don't have to vote for him, but I'd like to hear a reason for not doing so despite him just being in both your top 4 and top 3 scum list (with 3 scum remaining). If you are town and believe he is innocent/shouldn't be voted for here, then you should explain to other townsfolk why that's the case.

[Devante]

After catching up on things I'm leaning to scum is fusi/kong/charle.

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Now I won’t dismiss this yet but ragian is leaning more scum between those two but you I don’t doubt.

I did answer that. Ragian right is leaning more scum then fusi but he’s not off the list. And your hard on for voting Fusi is part of that. Like I said before; 3 of the 4 potential scum list is voting for him. The other two who I see leaning town are not and are voting for 3 out of the 4. Then fusi is also voting on one who seems town. So ya it’s all there at this point I’m just repeating myself.


Vot may be banned from posting but King now would be a good time to chime in too

[SoN!c]

So Sonic, Strike, what say you? Switch to Charlie or stay on Ragian

Im pretty sure scum is trying a mislynch between Ragian and Fusi and my money is on a scum Fusi doing just that. Charle was kinda sorta forced to vote him so im thinking a last minute switch from Charle is gonna be the play here.

Fusi also made a honeypie post just now towards you and Strike. It sure looked like he wanted to gain townie support there.

And would a town Fusi go for a no lynch on D1 (following Traf) or a random lynch because you know you have no PR info on D1 and its 12 townies vs 3 scum? Thats 80% chance hitting a townie. Scummy the way he went for Swang. LC mentioned the idea of groundwork on a mislynch on Swang (without even saying names) and was promptly nightkilled.

Im staying on the Fusi-Charle scumbo. Why is Fusi not voting Charle to debunk that? It's only the vote that counts. Fusi knows he can name 3 new names tomorrow so saying its RAGIAN-CHARLE-KONG today but also saying that the vote needs to go to Ragian as "the head of the snake" seems a tactic. Not town play.

PS: No mail from Vot yet.

My idea: We will have to be united on Charle or Fusi as otherwise it's gonna be a last minute scum switch and a mislynch. So with Vot out it seems King will have to decide. If everybody thinks Charle that would be the safe choice just before deadline.

[Devante]

Reasoning seems sound Sonic so I’ll go along. Just don’t want to miss a lynch and will be heading out soon to the bush but I’ll try to check in tomorrow. I’ll stick on Charlie seems to be out of the 3 possibly 4 the one that is more likely a hit. King where you at? Fusi and ragian, nows a time to bring more to the table if you really are town

[fusibaseball]

So Sonic, Strike, what say you? Switch to Charlie or stay on Ragian

Im pretty sure scum is trying a mislynch between Ragian and Fusi and my money is on a scum Fusi doing just that. Charle was kinda sorta forced to vote him so im thinking a last minute switch from Charle is gonna be the play here.

Fusi also made a honeypie post just now towards you and Strike. It sure looked like he wanted to gain townie support there.

And would a town Fusi go for a no lynch on D1 (following Traf) or a random lynch because you know you have no PR info on D1 and its 12 townies vs 3 scum? Thats 80% chance hitting a townie. Scummy the way he went for Swang. LC mentioned the idea of groundwork on a mislynch on Swang (without even saying names) and was promptly nightkilled.

Im staying on the Fusi-Charle scumbo. Why is Fusi not voting Charle to debunk that? It's only the vote that counts. Fusi knows he can name 3 new names tomorrow so saying its RAGIAN-CHARLE-KONG today but also saying that the vote needs to go to Ragian as "the head of the snake" seems a tactic. Not town play.

PS: No mail from Vot yet.

My idea: We will have to be united on Charle or Fusi as otherwise it's gonna be a last minute scum switch and a mislynch. So with Vot out it seems King will have to decide. If everybody thinks Charle that would be the safe choice just before deadline.

I voted Swang because the DDS train that was starting was the stupidest vote I've seen in all my games on this website and I wanted to try to switch the target off him. And I almost pulled it off - going "no vote" doesn't do anything there. DDS and I have been PM'ing afterwards about how bizarre that entire sequence was D1.

And I don't care, I'll vote Charle if I have to to save Town and get the vote off me. But I STRONGLY prefer Ragian or his follower Kong. See how brainwashed he's become all of a sudden and his panic unvote after to save face? Panicking Scum all over it.

[Charle]

The fact that Kong went so quickly for Fusi, changed my mind. I am town, do not follow Sonic's bull dust, we will loose if you do.

Then Devante also jumped quickly to get the vote away from Ragian. Also the fact that Ragian hold back his vote for so long tells me he is scared that we pick up that he is scum. So this is my list after the last few posts:
Ragian, Kong and Devante.

We really need to hit scum today, so here it is:
Unvote
Vote Ragian

Kong and Ragian will now obviously vote for me so that scum buddy Ragian will be safe, and scum Devante already voted me to get the swing away from Ragian. Sonic is too blunt to see all of this happen infront of his eyes. I had a feeling about Ragian from the start of this game. I must say, Fusi and Strike do not post that often, but when they do it makes sense.

[Charle]

So if you lynch me, tomorrow is our last chance, and Sonic, please just sit back and listen to Strike and Fusi for the balance of the votes needed, else we loose.

[SoN!c]

And here is Charle's switch like predicted:

The fact that Kong went so quickly for Fusi, changed my mind. so here it is:

Vote Ragian

Charle on Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:30 pm:

so here is mine now and I am not going to change.



Vote Fusi

Charle on Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:29 pm:

Sonic, read my lips, it is Fusi, Kong and Devante.

If I am on your mind, get it over with and lynch me, believe me, I will flip town, but then tomorrow, just go back to this first line please!!

[SoN!c]

unofficial votecount

Ragian: 3 - Fusibaseball, Strike, Charle
Charle: 2 - Sonic, Devante
Fusi: 1 - Ragian

note to myself: Fusi and Charle again voting together, Prediction made on Charle on Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:53 am:

Im pretty sure scum is trying a mislynch between Ragian and Fusi and my money is on a scum Fusi doing just that. Charle was kinda sorta forced to vote him so im thinking a last minute switch from Charle is gonna be the play here

Prediction fulfilled on Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:14 am.


Also Fusi's words

"I voted Swang because the DDS train that was starting was the stupidest vote I've seen in all my games on this website and I wanted to try to switch the target off him"

and then going for Swang again next day??

[Extreme Ways]

official votecount
Fusi: 1 - Ragian,
Charle: 2 - Sonic, Dev
Ragian: 3 - Fusibaseball, strike, Charle


NB: Votanic will not be modkilled, and if for some reason he's forced out of the game scum will not get their nightkill.
NB2: Votanic may proxy-vote through Sonic's email (or my DMs in CC, if he can use that function)
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[Kingm]

I'm just lazy, and don't want to look through 40 pages of comments.
But maybe EW or someone else have the voting history from the previous votes?

Maybe we could use that, because we have only lynched townies so far, but like myself I have just jumped on the wrong bandowagon every vote, so probably not much info, but maybe we can read something from the voting?

[SoN!c]

I'm just lazy, and don't want to look through 40 pages of comments.
But maybe EW or someone else have the voting history from the previous votes?

Maybe we could use that, because we have only lynched townies so far, but like myself I have just jumped on the wrong bandowagon every vote, so probably not much info, but maybe we can read something from the voting?

Yes we can.

This was the first vote D1 when it got shape:
Swang (5) - fusi, kongming, charle, devante, votanic
No Lynch (4) - kingm, , Pixar, Traf, DDS
DDS (3) - Max, Ragian, pmc
Devante (2) - Strike, Swang
Votanic (1) - Loose

This was the final vote D1:
DDS (5) - Max, Ragian, pmc, Swang, Kongming
Swang (4) - fusi, charle, devante, votanic
No Lynch (4) - kingm, , Pixar, Traf, DDS
Devante (1) - Strike
Votanic (1) - Loose

This was the vote D2:
swang (6) - Vot, charle, fusibaseball, pix, strike wolf, kingm
Charle (1) - PMC
Votanic (2) - swang, LC
Strike (1) - ragian

This was the last official votecount D3:
Max: 4 - Charle, Votanic, Dev, Kingm
Kong: 2 - PMC, Strike
Dev: 1 - Ragian
Ragian: 1 - Sonic
Sonic: 1 - Max

Fusi didn't vote but with Max on 4 votes there was no need, most votes gets lynched anyways

Just vote Charle and we can discuss further after deadline

Strike says RAGIAN-CHARLE-KONG
Fusi says RAGIAN-CHARLE-KONG
Ragian says FUSI-CHARLE-KONG
Dev says RAGIAN-CHARLE-KONG
Kong says FUSI-CHARLE


And still no mail from Vot, so in case he missed the mail adres: brothersinblood.sonic@gmail.com
I don't think Vot is gonna mail, he would have let something know by know.
Also, if he sends the mail, it only counts when i forward the message here so not much time left

Im off to a wedding in 2 hours and busy day tomorrow. Will check in late afternoon again.

[SoN!c]

Im off, the scumbo Fusi-Charle seems the best explanation to me. So King you'll need to decide.

Also 3 scummies with day chat helping each other is key here. Ragian stands alone. And Looks certain scum is bussing Charle as everybody has Charle on his list (except you and Vot still to vote)

[Ragian]

Thanks for showing your hand, Charle. invite vote Charle

[Ragian]

unvote vote Charle

Ffs

[kongming3]

Fusi, given I'm part of a scum trio with these knuckleheads foolishly turning on one another, should I fulfill my minion duties and vote Charle first or rise up and vote Ragian?

[SoN!c]

@King


Lets say its FUSI - CHARLE - KONG. Then 3 scummies are on Ragian any time now. KONG will hammer with 1 town misvote (strike)

Yes drunk as hell here and the wife is driving home but ffs scum is making it happe´ing


Strike ????? If you dont trust me trust a town Ragian

[kongming3]

Hate to interrupt the drunken ramblings, but I will lock in [color=#FF0000]vote Charle[/color] now because I might not get another chance before day end.

[strike wolf]

Unvote. I don't feel like a hammer is necessary since this will more or less guarantee Charle will be lynched but I should be on tomorrow if another Vote is needed.

Ultimately, Son!c is right that the Vote patterns on top of Charle's knowledge of the doc looks pretty damning. Kong's late Vote above does not dissuade me from a potential connection there either as at this point, it would be a smart play to bus charle.

[Charle]

gg Scum well played .... Sonic lost this for town with his absurd theories. There is one chance left for town to win, but Sonic will obviously play right in scum's hand, so town have zero chance in this game.