Friends & Enemies & Enemies & That Other Guy - Wolves Won

[Loose Canon]

Pepe has to have FOS pointed at him.

He made a few posts about needing guidance, wanting to follow, wanting to vote to lynch someone, late on Max was one of the 3 he mentioned he might vote for then didn't.

[SoN!c]

If you agree, we should expect N2 scum team 1 wanna hit scum team 2 again and vice versa and if there is not a "good scum case on not themselves" the scum teams will hit the strongest player they have doubts on being town. We should be able to work or do something with this theory.

[SoN!c]

Pepe has to have FOS pointed at him.

He made a few posts about needing guidance, wanting to follow, wanting to vote to lynch someone, late on Max was one of the 3 he mentioned he might vote for then didn't.

Pepe seems town to me.
He voted DDS to see if Strike would unvote DDS like DDS already unvoted Strike and then Strike did just that.. Also i asked later to switch to Strike but he stayed strongly on DDS saying he believes they are a scumpair so it wouldn't matter. But now Strike flips town there is no scum reason why he wouldn't have switched (Strike not being his possible scumpartner). Ofcourse Max could be his scumpartner but that would be farfetched and very inexperienced play?

[DirtyDishSoap]

Two really odd kills. Dev was scummy for his joke not joke on Strike, and Strike was being paired with me. Thanks? Updated list based on how the night went/left field theories from me.

Town
Sonic - Unless this is some really elaborate ploy, i can't see him completely sabotaging his own theories

LC - I can't imagine he'd think of this either. Pretty sure this is a safe bet.

Neutral
Rag - Got bumped down after he unvoted just to vote again, last minute and then asked that goofball question of my no lynch stance. That's odd behavior.

Traf - Traf

Max - Max

Scummy
EW - This is a normally very active player. I haven't looked if he browsed the forums lately but I'm concerned he's lurking by.

Kong - Im going to pair him with EW on this.

Pepe - For reasons stated D1.

SK
DDS

[Loose Canon]

For me I'd scrub EW from DDSs list at least for now.
EW joined me in wanting to lynch Max - OK for reasons that were music to my ears - but I don't see why he should have said more than he did later in D1 having given his reasoning.

I'm not really following Sonics reasons why DDS has town cred - but that aside I've no reason to suspect DDS yet.

DDS has Kong on his scummy list.
Kong did vote D1 but for a prolyncher it wasn't for me a vote likely to force a lynch.
So Kong is sort of on my ever growing FOS list too.

And even the players who aren't (yet) on my FOS list - could easily be just playing the game in the shadows or have me fooled.

[SoN!c]

For me I'd scrub EW from DDSs list at least for now.
EW joined me in wanting to lynch Max - OK for reasons that were music to my ears - but I don't see why he should have said more than he did later in D1 having given his reasoning.

I'm not really following Sonics reasons why DDS has town cred - but that aside I've no reason to suspect DDS yet.

DDS has Kong on his scummy list.
Kong did vote D1 but for a prolyncher it wasn't for me a vote likely to force a lynch.
So Kong is sort of on my ever growing FOS list too.

And even the players who aren't (yet) on my FOS list - could easily be just playing the game in the shadows or have me fooled.

Look, it's saturday night in Belgium (close to 01.00 am over midnight and the wine is flowing real good - this game drives on alcohol it seems). The wife looked at a movie but i liked this better watching it on my tablet
Anyways : We are down 2 - just 5 townies left. BUT scum will wanna hit scum again N2.. I get DDS his FoS on EW but LC is close to 100% being town to me.

And It makes no sense trying to kill the Masons at this stage - town will only grow stronger when the spare Mason kicks in. So i will say it.

There are 2 Mason's out there, if you would say this D1 you get lynched but on D2 with only 5 town left you need to get organised.. I was already thinking D1 two of the Masons would be between LC- EW- Kong. All three got me the Mason vibe.. At least one must be lying or hinting he is? . Ofcourse i could be wrong on those 3 (being 2 Masons in there) but.. 5 town left guys, tomorrow it could be only 3 (yes, that's worst case scenario but still).

So if true, IF there are 2 Masons in those 3 (the 2 Masons will know) i think the third one is scum. . And that one needs to be the vote target of today i think.

Town needs to start shooting scum like The Man with No Name

[Loose Canon]

With us each having 9 players to vote from;

I have pointed my FOSs at Kong, Pepe, Rag and Traf.
And Max is strategically bad for Town (- unless he shows himself not to be?)

I'd be very reticent to vote for DDS, EW or Sonic today.

I think I want to hear pros and cons for voting Kong, Pepe, Rag, Traf or Max.
Particularly from the infamous five themselves.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I'll get the show started.

Vote Kong.

[PepeAtila]

Something I think it is clear for me now it is that I was wrong and DDS should be clearly town, so I follow him
vote Kong

[Loose Canon]

Pepe has to have FOS pointed at him.

He made a few posts about needing guidance, wanting to follow, wanting to vote to lynch someone, late on Max was one of the 3 he mentioned he might vote for then didn't.

I might vote for Kong following DDSs lead.
I guess it wouldn't necessarily matter to me that Pepe has voted for Kong too because if Pepe is scum he would still be prepared to vote for someone he suspected to be in other scum faction?
My FOS on Pepe could be a misread?

Either way I think Pepe should answer my FOS on him.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Something I think it is clear for me now it is that I was wrong and DDS should be clearly town, so I follow him
vote Kong

But... why?!

[Ragian]

Skimmed. Busy Sunday as the footie is on. Why do I have any explaining to do that you didn't get from your apparent rereading, Loose?

@Pepe, why are you voting Kong?

[Loose Canon]

Skimmed. Busy Sunday as the footie is on. Why do I have any explaining to do that you didn't get from your apparent rereading, Loose?

@Pepe, why are you voting Kong?

WHAT A POST!

You are on the whole a pro-lyncher rather than a no-lyncher
Second game running you have come to Max's defence.
Last game you were scum.
This game your last say on not voting Max is you are "not comfortable"

You are well capable of misdirection and causing misdirection.
A lot of players would have seen Strike as a strong player and therefore threat.
You most so though, he was your scum buddy last game, you'd me more wary of him than anyone this game.

And you slip in your dismissive "why do I have anymore explaining?" between busy watching football and asking Pepe to explain while adding to suss on Kong.

WHAT A POST!

[Ragian]

Interesting. Are you saying that you don't know why I didn't vote Max?

[Loose Canon]

I'm saying it didn't make sense to me if you are town.

[SoN!c]

Interesting. Are you saying that you don't know why I didn't vote Max?

No, yes, could be, perhaps??, all we know is that you look like a teflon Don with these answers..

But i suppose thats better then not answering at all? Like others,,??

The question at hand here is: are you gonna side / align with town or are you just keep being a rogue rebel playing on your own?

5 townies left. If we mislynch its 4 town going into the night . With possible another 2 town hits (wcs ) tonight..so today is fight day - so lets fight ,??

[Loose Canon]

Rag, it also has occurred to me that you have targetted Max as a vote you can buy off of you later in the game?

[Loose Canon]

Rag, it also has occurred to me that you have targetted Max as a vote you can buy off of you later in the game?

Or indeed Rag if Max is rival scum faction make it less likely you will be night killed by the rival faction.

Defending Max would I suggest be a win win win option for you as you might see it as scum.

1. If he's fellow scum you have to defend him
2. If he's rival scum, you figure rival scum are less likely to kill you
3. If he's town you figure he's less likely to vote to lynch you

Yes you do have to answer for your defence of Max!

[Loose Canon]

And in fact Rag just looking back now at the last game, you and Max were 2 of the initial 3 and had stuck at the end on the D1 mislynch of DDS.
You weren't shy of a no evidence lynch then.
So yep the more I think about it there is a definite case that as scum you see Max as a player you can draw into your pocket.

[Extreme Ways]

Hi, I was away for a week did I miss anything important

I will catch up after work

[Ragian]

And in fact Rag just looking back now at the last game, you and Max were 2 of the initial 3 and had stuck at the end on the D1 mislynch of DDS.
You weren't shy of a no evidence lynch then.
So yep the more I think about it there is a definite case that as scum you see Max as a player you can draw into your pocket.

Dude, I wrote out throughout D1 why I didn't want to lynch Max. I am weirded out that you keep flogging that dead horse when you can just see all the times when I wrote that I didn't want to lynch Max because I think it's a copout and that it won't reveal any information that we can use further on in the game. I've been very explicit about those two points.

Your comparison to the former game also weirds me out. A) I was scum then and my agenda at that point was to get rid of one of the players that would be on to me quickly. DDS made it quite easy by abandoning his usual no lynch D1 policy and contradicting himself. B) This is about NOT lynching someone, so it's apples and oranges.

I think you need to vote for me and convince others to do the same if you want a resolution to this because you keep asking questions that I answered D1. Right now, it feels to me as if you're trying to use my unequivocal stance D1 as a setup for a mislynch D2.

[PepeAtila]

Pepe has to have FOS pointed at him.

He made a few posts about needing guidance, wanting to follow, wanting to vote to lynch someone, late on Max was one of the 3 he mentioned he might vote for then didn't.

I might vote for Kong following DDSs lead.
I guess it wouldn't necessarily matter to me that Pepe has voted for Kong too because if Pepe is scum he would still be prepared to vote for someone he suspected to be in other scum faction?
My FOS on Pepe could be a misread?

Either way I think Pepe should answer my FOS on him.

Sorry, what is your question? ... I mean... what FOS mean?

[Loose Canon]

Fair enough Rags that is an explanation. Not sure what would have convinced me in all honesty.
I am not afraid of a mislynch per se.
Don't believe you are either.
You'd be a more costly mislynch than others, and there are others I am suss of too.
Right now I suspect you most of all though.

Therefore Vote Ragian

[SoN!c]

Rag, the one i think knows you best (DDS) said this about you: "Got bumped down after he unvoted just to vote again, last minute and then asked that goofball question of my no lynch stance. That's odd behavior."

But you ignored that, only saying this :

Skimmed. Busy Sunday as the footie is on. Why do I have any explaining to do that you didn't get from your apparent rereading, Loose?
@Pepe, why are you voting Kong?

And that was rather strange because DDS already asked that question to Pepe 3 hours before. So that can't be a FP.
So that was your first post D1 when it was your D1 target Devante that died? That's odd behavior don't you think?.
(not taking that goofy last-minute switch to Pepe just to unvote him a few hours later into account).

FP by Loose

[Loose Canon]

Pepe, FOS means finger of suspicion and yes I have one on you.
It is a way of signifying that I suspect someone that stops short of a vote to lynch, whilst giving a player a chance to respond and for others to say whether they suspect too or not.