The unholy story of Count Giure "Grando" Stregone TOWN WINS!

[Loose Canon]

I don't know what fusi thinks he's playing at.

I'm comfortable sticking with my current vote or reverting back to fusi though for what it's worth

[Extreme Ways]

I also dont get what fusi is implying about DDS/jfm but I think both of them know.

I will fullclaim shorter to deadline for the sake of getting some info out.

[Loose Canon]

You have to play as you see fit extreme.

But I think delaying what you think you have to say means people will hold off votes till last minute and so comes at a more likely cost of a late vote mislynch.
And you also have to bear in mind that masons in danger of a mislynch can probably save the mislynch by claiming except maybe if the lynch momentum all happens late on.

[jfm10]

Well I see all the Scum were afraid to pile on and vote me so I guess my "tactic" worked.

Vote Rag because EW did and he's the only who knows T.F. is going on here.

Also LOL @ Town DDS using his Vigilante to try and shoot me N1. JFM is Town. FOS Charle.

I won't confirm DDS used his 1st ability on night 1 but fusi seems excited about it being a cop .

[Ragian]

Kong - leaning town: Seemingly attempts to solve this mess. Rereading D2, I'm getting a town vibe. Unfortunately, that means that I have to at least acknowledge that EW and Strike are town. If scum factions consist of twos, it doesn't make sense for a third player to say that two other players are town. Unless done as scum in order to brown-nose the two in question, of course. I'm still getting a town vibe from Kong, though.

EW - leaning town: This is based solely on the stuff above. Otherwise, EW hasn't done anything to convince me that he's town. He's even voted me, which hurts my feelings (He might be miffed that I'm onto his scummate ). Him holding back on his claim to the last minute also seems weird. Holding town votes hostage till he can manipulate it last minute?

Vot - neutral to slightly scummy: He's on to his usual enigma solving wordsmithy display, but his voting seems slightly uncharacteristic for a player who's usually only voting out of fury at others idiocy or with solid evidence at hand. Also unvoted Devante immediately after Devante found his vote scummy. Asks logical questions based on the information at hand, however, and rightly questions Fusi's BS.

Devante - neutral to slightly townish: I did wonder a bit why Devante leaped from Kong's note saying that EW and Strike are town to saying they're masons, but I don't know if that means anything. And Sonic confirmed it a few posts later. Kong, however, claims he doesn't know about their roles. Perhaps Sonic's verification in the thread wasn't about the roles, despite him saying that Devante got it absolutely right. Devante also asks Sonic to shut up about his role, which makes me think him more town than scum. Didn't like him revealing his role, though...

Strike - leaning town: Again, this is based on Kong's note. Apart from asking the mod to shut up with information that ruins the mystery part of the game, Strike hasn't done much to make me feel either way about him. He did, however, say that Kong shouldn't be treated as confirmed town, which is very rational.

Fusi - scummy: Chimes in saying that Kong needs to be careful because the note, while mod-certified, can be faulty. This makes sense, but it could also be trying to sow suspicion due to the fact that Fusi isn't on that list. Chimes in seldomly and then asks everyone to trust him, saying he was targeted N1. Odd. Then he wants people to claim. Bad. Votes self. Detrimental. LOL, now claims it was tactics and votes me and then spews a lot of who is town around. His explanation for his vote on me: "...because EW did and he's the only one who knows T.F. is going on here," despite EW clearly stating that he has "no real reason" for his vote on me.

Loose - leaning scum: I can't get the fact that he stayed at home N1 with all these PRs going about. To me, it reeks of scum self preservation. Moreover, he sort of misrepresented how I behaved D1 saying that I threw "early suspicion on a number of players [...] which could be a scum strategy." That isn't true, and Loose even backs off his own accusation later. Then he settles for voting an inactive. Changes his vote to Pixar after jfm votes for Pixar. His explanation is that "Pixar is a player who I don't have a feel on either way in this game". Odd. However, he does call out EW on the hostage situation.

Charle - neutral: Is quick to process the information given and make it useful in terms of lynching candidates. I like that. Didn't like his argument to kill off Fusi, saying it doesn't matter if "scum or not". Does take a lot of offence to jfm's vote, though. Seemed almost OMGUS.

Pixar - slighly scummy: Chimes in asking if he's missed anything... If that's not scummarining, I don't know what is. Does seem rational in relation to the note, though.

JFM (formely known as DDS) - neutral: Starts out with loads of good stuff and seems eager to participate. His FoS on Charle, however, seems overeager.

PMC - no read: AWOL
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Conclusion: My vote would be placed on either Fusi, Loose, or Pixar at this point. I just have a couple of question to get off my chest first.

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Questions:

...but I will say for the last time that this is mod-verified guaranteed to be true as of last night hard intel that neither strike wolf or EW are part of either scum faction.

Does this mean that it could change? Or that it will change?

@jfm, if you don't like Pixar's vote on Devante, what about Vot's? And your last post...the "being a cop" bit. Are you saying that Fusi is the cop or that Fusi thinks that DDS is?

@EW, if your role reveal helps guide town votes (even if you're voting me), why are you withholding it?

[Extreme Ways]

f*ck it we ball.

I am in possession of the masonic axe at the moment. That's why I knew all the things about how to kill the striga. Using the axe at the end of the day reveals the user, which is why I wanted to claim closer to eod but there is indeed good chances of not getting any good discussion in if I blue balls you like this.

I'm dying tonight most likely given I can't be protected

[Ragian]

Okay...okay...

You have the axe now. So whomever we lynch, you need to tell the mods that you'll cut off the lynchee's head, yes? Obviously, there's no reason not to do that (and if you know if there is, please use your axe carefully). Do you know if we lose the axe if we lose you? I have a sense that this topic might have been covered already, but I fail to recall with all the information flying about. It doesn't make sense that you can't be protected. I mean, we have a bodyguard...

[jfm10]

@jfm, if you don't like Pixar's vote on Devante, what about Vot's? And your last post...the "being a cop" bit. Are you saying that Fusi is the cop or that Fusi thinks that DDS is?

It is my opinion that Fusi knows my 1st ability is/was as a cop.

[Votanic]

f*ck it we ball.

I am in possession of the masonic axe at the moment. That's why I knew all the things about how to kill the striga. Using the axe at the end of the day reveals the user, which is why I wanted to claim closer to eod but there is indeed good chances of not getting any good discussion in if I blue balls you like this.

I'm dying tonight most likely given I can't be protected

EW's axe possessionsounds reasonable, ...and probably should have already been deduced.
@Ragian, Yes he already said another player would inherit the axe.
I already said Town needs to get a lynch on, ...but it is such a long way to seven votes, especially with so much too-good-to-be-true news flying around.

As for bodyguards this game, (if Devante is anything to go by):
• They claim Day 1.
• The don't use they're PR on Night 1.
• ...but his silver protection-vest gets (half?-)broken anyway.
Ugh, I give up.

Of course fake?/real? reporting/revealing/claiming as soon as possible seems to be a raging mega-trend this game.

I need to re-read themany pages of nonsense and then futilely compile a read-list, ...but I just don't have the energy to do so yet.

This game is either going to be the most brilliant one ever, ...or the most stupid.
I do have a suspicion about which of those it might be, but I shall keep that to myself for now.

FPed by jfm, who seems to be completely on-trend.

[jfm10]

Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons Ew Strike uncontested long enough
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ? traf dead cop fusi my opinion
2 rest of town
2 ? devante and sadly pixar for being closest to contest a probable 2 role game
1 other guy me

how hard would it be to fill and see where the wolves and vampires have to try to hide?

unvote pixar

that's how i am leaning without putting the other 2 at risk but us 6 need to be the bandwagon or we get nowhere.

[jfm10]

Well I see all the Scum were afraid to pile on and vote me so I guess my "tactic" worked.

Vote Rag because EW did and he's the only who knows T.F. is going on here.

Also LOL @ Town DDS using his Vigilante to try and shoot me N1. JFM is Town. FOS Charle.

I won't confirm DDS used his 1st ability on night 1 but fusi seems excited about it being a cop .

After looking up Vigilant then fusi with a cop role would have read me right . Sorry for the confusion because i am the other guy

[Ragian]

I seriously think that people should put more effort into their sentences. This feels like deducing the content of teenagers' texts...

[Loose Canon]

Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons Ew Strike uncontested long enough
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ? traf dead cop fusi my opinion
2 rest of town
2 ? devante and sadly pixar for being closest to contest a probable 2 role game
1 other guy me

how hard would it be to fill and see where the wolves and vampires have to try to hide?

unvote pixar

that's how i am leaning without putting the other 2 at risk but us 6 need to be the bandwagon or we get nowhere.

So how do you know you are the other guy jfm?

Also not sure how Pixar has become less suspicious to you?

[*Pixar*]

Chinese piu-wuy or that other gambling game - "make 9"- is mandalin or cantonese..

2 masons Ew Strike uncontested long enough
2 vampire faction
2 wolves
2 ? traf dead cop fusi my opinion
2 rest of town
2 ? devante and sadly pixar for being closest to contest a probable 2 role game
1 other guy me

how hard would it be to fill and see where the wolves and vampires have to try to hide?

unvote pixar

that's how i am leaning without putting the other 2 at risk but us 6 need to be the bandwagon or we get nowhere.

So how do you know you are the other guy jfm?

Also not sure how Pixar has become less suspicious to you?

JFM actually put me in the right group, I'm impressed lol. I'm most related to Devante I would say mostly why I didn't believe Devante.

[Loose Canon]

But jfm shouldn't know if he's the other guy and the other guy is a reserve mason

[jfm10]

Welcome jfm

I'm speculating there is some kind of thief role maybe night and day which would explain loss of Devs vest and the silver bullets.
Maybe a minion to the striga.
Also in chess notation x signifies takes. ie b x q means bishop takes queen.

Devs vest took damage and the bullets well i reckon i'll be needing a whole lot more

Fusi read me as town so he would say this statement can't be true but the statement is true.

[Loose Canon]

JFM - How do you know you are "THE OTHER GUY"????

A reserve mason doesn't know they are the reserve mason - have you scum slipped???

[Loose Canon]

unvote Pixar vote jfm10

[Devante]

Just getting back now. We'll need some time to catch up the last couple days of posts

[Ragian]

JFM - How do you know you are "THE OTHER GUY"????

A reserve mason doesn't know they are the reserve mason - have you scum slipped???

Why does "the other guy" have to be a mason?

[Votanic]

I'm going to remember this game as the one where everybody claimed to know everything right off the bat...

[Loose Canon]

JFM - How do you know you are "THE OTHER GUY"????

A reserve mason doesn't know they are the reserve mason - have you scum slipped???

Why does "the other guy" have to be a mason?

The other guy was a secret reserve mason known only to the mod and not to the reserve in the last game, and that is apparently the customary set up for these games.
Doesn't necessarily mean sonic hasn't abandoned custom.
Think jfm has to answer how he knows he's the other guy at least.

[Charle]

JFM - How do you know you are "THE OTHER GUY"????

A reserve mason doesn't know they are the reserve mason - have you scum slipped???

Why does "the other guy" have to be a mason?

We don't really know who and what the "other guy" is, all we know is that he is a back-up for a town role and he definitely does not know it at this stage. That's why I am sure that jfm is not completely honest with us.

[Extreme Ways]

unvote ragian vote jfm

I will join this for the sole purpose of not being confused about what they are saying.

One thing to note is that a different mod + different setup = different rules. A backup may be aware of being a backup in this specific game. In the context of this game "the other guy" feels more like a third party rather than backup masons and I, like rag, dont understand whether jfm claims cop or vig.

If cop they claimed a greencheck on fusi?

[Devante]

After reading over things I'm leaning Fusi, Pixar or JFM right now as leaning scum. I'd be fine voting either one of those. Mod can we get a vote count