Black Metal Mafia - SCUM WINS

[Charle]

Traf only wants to talk flavour.

I do think biggest onus is on max right now.

I absolutely agree with you here, Max did not post in more than a week now, so even if he is cop, it is time to come out.

Unvote

Vote Max

[Maxleod]

Claiming would only help Scum.

FOS Loose and Charle.

[Loose Canon]

So just to be clear max, given the following a,b,c options regarding you personally

A. I am not a detective
B. I am a detective
C. I am not saying whether I'm a detective or not

You would currently choose C???

Even though evidence of a detective or not, would evidence a recruit or not, and if not which players would more likely opt for no recruit.

Also max, given your FOS on me and Charle, does this signify you would NOT be on board with a lynching of Ew or sonic, if neither are lynched today???

[Loose Canon]

So just to be clear max, given the following a,b,c options regarding you personally

A. I am not a detective
B. I am a detective
C. I am not saying whether I'm a detective or not

You would currently choose C???

Even though evidence of a detective or not, would evidence a recruit or not, and if not which players would more likely opt for no recruit.

Also max, given your FOS on me and Charle, does this signify you would NOT be on board with a lynching of Ew or sonic, if neither are lynched today???

lynching of Ew or sonic tomorrow, if neither are lynched today???

[SoN!c]

Lynching loose today is always better then lynching loose tomorrow..


A. Lynch loose because he is too much "wishy washy" this game.

B. LYNCH LOOSE because of the ABC post towards Max and not answering questions.

C. lynch loose because this will be a better place without his smoke bombs all over the place, and turn this into a happy logic place (without double standards and sillyness)

D. Lynch Loose because he is obvious scum in this game. In no way he even resembles the smart logic Loose he was in the Charle game. Like forced into playing a role and lost it.

E. LYNCH LOOSE for voting / placing FoS on everybody around so you would not look at him. Then going for the players that point out the inconsistencies / double standards..

And remember: in this game, Lynching loose today is always better then lynching loose tomorrow ...

[SoN!c]

Jajajaaaa

[Loose Canon]

Knock knock joke;

KNOCK KNOCK
who's there?
THE INTERRUPTING COW/MAFIA
the inteMOO/SONIC

[SoN!c]

Knock knock joke;

KNOCK KNOCK
who's there?
THE INTERRUPTING COW/MAFIA
the inteMOO/SONIC

????

Perhaps , just perhaps, its no coincidence some players are not that "present" anymore. Im thinking too be less present tmOOOO...

[SoN!c]

You were called out because of your illogic. So if logic no longer applies and its just cow MOOOO random... then why should we play?

[Extreme Ways]

Loose are you still suspecting me?

[Loose Canon]

Yes Extreme, I started the day with 4 Vanila Town down, makes me think no lynch , makes you the most likely driver of a no lynch strategy, gave me a pretty firm vote on you.
I'd had previous slight suspicions on you too. The Sonic posts/play today has added more suspicion on you for me too. So yes I do still suspect you - quite strongly still.

The Sonic play/posts today make me think if Extreme is scum then how on earth can Sonic not be scum too.

But lets look at the possible motivations behind the Sonic posts/play.

1. He is playing an overstrong diversion/distraction strategy for scum partner EW.
2. He is town and genuinely does think I'm scum???
3. He is diverting attention away from a different scum partner(s) to EW and in so doing implicating EW

On the possibility of 3 I don't think he would have started off the day with anything more than the intention of Scum Sonic appearing to be just be more Sonic. I can't believe he started the day with the intention to draw attention to himself so much, with the purpose of implicating EW. But I think it could have sort of developed into play hard diversion, worse comes to worse I go down but I'll probably take EW down with me, I may as well continue, better case EW goes first then if I can bsh*t that I can have another go tomorrow.

Because 3 is a possibility and therefore a scum Sonic does not necessarily mean a scum EW (but I think the opposite probably does hold true), and because a town EW in a scum lynched Sonic and Town EW, can be saved from wrongful lynching by Jailkeeper tonight, I'm thinking a better lynching than EW is now Sonic D3.

So with that logic and while I still do suspect EW;

unvote Extreme Ways vote Sonic

[Charle]

EW, who are on your suspect list?

[SoN!c]

Loose, it's you.

You were one of the 3 that voted Charle. You placed FoS on Pixar when he voted Max. Strike was thinking you, so you placed FoS on him, and that night Strike got convienently killed.. If Strike was still alive he would have been voting you today. You did not want to get onboard on the JFM wagon even when Charle asked to do so because (only the next day) you said you "pre-sensed" it.. and then the one question you did in fact answer you said that you just made "a dumb mistake"..

[Ragian]

Official vote count - Deadline: Feb 12, midnight GMT+1



Son!c (1) - Loose
Kong (1) - Devante
Charle (1) - Max
Loose (2) - EW, Son!c
Max (1) - Charle

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline in 6 days, 11 hours, and 47 minutes

Spoiler

[b]Latest post mod time (GMT+1)[/b] 1. Charle - Feb 6, 8:06 am 2. Extreme Ways - Feb 5, 9:47 pm 4. Son!c - Feb 6, 9:01 am 6. Loose Cannon - Feb 5, 10:18 pm 8. Devante - Feb 1, 5:46 am - [b]prodded[/b] 9. kongming3 - Jan 30, 6:27 pm - [b]prodded[/b] 11. Trafalgarlaw01 - Feb 4, 9:57 pm 12. Maxleod - Feb 5, 9:15 am - [b]on final warning[/b]

[Extreme Ways]

EW, who are on your suspect list?

Loose, tad Sonic. I think one of them is always a wolf. Loose doesn't make the most sense to me and it took me asking for him to realise he should suspect Sonic more. Sonic joined me in pushing Loose but does so without actually defending me, making me paranoid that if Loose flips town, Sonic will push me instead as Loose's dying wish. I still think Loose is providing bogus arguments and hasn't really addressed my point of "I could have just lied if I were scum" whilst this is like the cornerpiece of his scumread on me. Sonic should be a bit more paranoid about me, but he reads into it the same way I do so I think he's town of the pair.

I still think Max is scummy, but not significantly more scummy than otherwise. Traf is still silent, mostly. Could be coasting scum.

[SoN!c]

Ive been pushing Loose since D1. You can reread..

The big question is who is his scumpartner. Loose didnt care to search around (in short: just omgus play on whoever pointed at him or point at his friends; see pixar, See strike, now mee and ew)


Ive been fishing at Max as n1 scum partner but current idea is Max is town and scum Loose just wants to trick Max. The first night loose killing Pix makes me think he has a very smart scum partner. Loose in this game is just a big mouth against anybody who is against him. He has not searched everybody, mainly he sticks to those who are posing questions about his illogic. The real question is : who is his partner?

[kongming3]

Flavour feels like a dead-end. Rereading some posts, Sonic called Loose out for "pre-knowing" JFM would turn out town. That was first happening D2 before the lynch went through, and before anyone besides scum had any meaningful information on JFM's role or alignment. A town Loose could reasonably guess for most given lynches that they're more likely than not to turn out town under this setup, but still rather odd. Also possible that sonic was the one who knew JFM was town and so could confidently spot that and call out Loose to look good. For what it's worth, I think the odds of at least one of them being scum is higher than not, but I'd be surprised if they're both scum, and this is assuming we're 100% sure there's only 2 scum in play. Everyone else besides Charle currently has some degree of suspicion in my mind.

I still want to understand Loose's case on EW - Loose, are there any particular reasons to suspect EW beyond the 2-scum preference argument? And if so/if not, what separates Traf from being suspicious for the same reason in your mind?

[Devante]

I'm not seeing much here to go either way but will unvote kong, if anything i'd rather go Loose or Sonic right now

[SoN!c]

Flavour feels like a dead-end. Rereading some posts, Sonic called Loose out for "pre-knowing" JFM would turn out town. That was first happening D2 before the lynch went through, and before anyone besides scum had any meaningful information on JFM's role or alignment. A town Loose could reasonably guess for most given lynches that they're more likely than not to turn out town under this setup, but still rather odd. Also possible that sonic was the one who knew JFM was town and so could confidently spot that and call out Loose to look good. For what it's worth, I think the odds of at least one of them being scum is higher than not, but I'd be surprised if they're both scum, and this is assuming we're 100% sure there's only 2 scum in play. Everyone else besides Charle currently has some degree of suspicion in my mind.

I still want to understand Loose's case on EW - Loose, are there any particular reasons to suspect EW beyond the 2-scum preference argument? And if so/if not, what separates Traf from being suspicious for the same reason in your mind?

And point out your case on me to Loose. With logic reasoning.

[SoN!c]

PS: That means more then saying "sonic smokebombed" while if you reread its only you that smokebombed . (calling strike scum because of the 16 minutes gap, pix = scum reasoning for stupid silly reasoning, the same with charle, dev and traf are scum reasoning, ew, me are scum.. but always flimsy reasoning behind all that ... hence why its called "smoke". Please represent the reasoning behind all those cases so its pretty obvious

[SoN!c]

Not wanna flood the thread here but Loose was online and saw all the comments, but he chose not to respond. A Dissapointment if you have nothing to hide

[Extreme Ways]

Flavour feels like a dead-end. Rereading some posts, Sonic called Loose out for "pre-knowing" JFM would turn out town. That was first happening D2 before the lynch went through, and before anyone besides scum had any meaningful information on JFM's role or alignment. A town Loose could reasonably guess for most given lynches that they're more likely than not to turn out town under this setup, but still rather odd. Also possible that sonic was the one who knew JFM was town and so could confidently spot that and call out Loose to look good. For what it's worth, I think the odds of at least one of them being scum is higher than not, but I'd be surprised if they're both scum, and this is assuming we're 100% sure there's only 2 scum in play. Everyone else besides Charle currently has some degree of suspicion in my mind.

I still want to understand Loose's case on EW - Loose, are there any particular reasons to suspect EW beyond the 2-scum preference argument? And if so/if not, what separates Traf from being suspicious for the same reason in your mind?

Unless exactly Max is cop, we are in a 2-scum world.

[Loose Canon]

FFS I play 5 a side football most Thursday nights, so I read and think, but don't necessarily post.

Sonic you are playing one dimensionally, one hit wonderly, One Directionally, and I have more musical respect for them than I do of you in this game.

[Loose Canon]

Kong asked me a valid a question re Ew.

I had microsuspicions of ew to end of d2 and I believe you will find I may not have called them out loud and clear, but I did post regarding them.
To balance these microsuspicions Ew has been asking valid questions - what if I'm wrong, am I still suspicious of him. Of course Ew is a clever player so my microsuspicions and his asking the right questions of me probably each amount to very little.
You are right that the no recruit theory forms the main basis of my suspicion on Ew.
But there is also Sonic's distraction strategy that makes me think he's distracting for a reason, and he started this once I went for Ew d3 and not sonic.

Kong you also ask why not Traf.
I think you will find beginning of d3 I had suspicion of Traf too, it's just sonic has gone so 1 dimensionally on loose is scum that I can't work out what sonic is up to if he's town. Ew made what I think was that argument on sonic too.

[Loose Canon]

Don't be silly Loose. You sound like an exact copy from the Charle game. Pretty funny you mentioned that. Everytime you were 3P serial killer you could (looking back) notice the difference. So nobody is gonna vote you. Unless you start wild loose chases

First of all I looked exactly like I looked in Charles game when I was town mason, now I'm obvious scum. Ok a town sonic can change his mind - just pointing that out for starters sonic.

Thing is maybe at the point you posted the above , scum sonic thought I might be detective so worth backing off D2.
But then d3 I kick off with the no recruit theory and scum sonic figures I'm not, so that removes his reticence to go hard at me.