D5 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

[halrob64]

Am I the only one still unsure of what Dev has claimed?

I'm also unsure, is it actually a claim or an inference?

[Ragian]

I only got that he said that he was a PR.

[Loose Canon]

I've spent first 95% of D1 looking for (or pretending to look for) indicators on who mafia might be.

It just so happens that a post by strike, inadvertently/accidentally led me late in the last 5% of D1 to think we've accidentally found who 3p is.

If not Dev now then when, because unless we accidentally eliminate an alternative 3p it's difficult to foresee how Dev can be cleared?

Fpd by rag

[Loose Canon]

Rag if you are not satisfied, ok it doesn't necessarily need you to be one of the two to lynch dev D1.

But check back the interactions between sonic and dev, to make sure you are not satisfied?

[halrob64]

@ Devante
Can you argue for why you're suspicious regarding Darin, strike and hal ?[/quote]

Hal given his initial posts seemed scummy to be and then a lot of fluff added in afterwards that just kind of buried it and continues to post a lot without anything of substance. Kind of rubs me as trying to be very active but without saying anything substantial that could be used on him. Darin more so for supporting hal and really not posting much otherwise, seems to be trying to jump in only when necessary possibly to support his scum buddy. Strike is more of a gut feeling as he doesn't seem to be playing with his usual style and involvement but sitting back more even when prodded by Ragian. And king is because he seems to playing like he did initially last game with his posts hence just initial feeling.

I am town and will claim if forced but that would not be of benefit to anyone other then scum.

As for Sonics poems there is something there so I'll be going back to revisit those and the content of posts before as there's some hints there. As much as it gives me a headache to do so[/quote]
Not actually making a claim but threatening to make one. I thought one and the same at the time but maybe this was deliberate to take the heat off and sow confusion?

[halrob64]

A threat to make a claim but is it the same as a claim? I thought so at first an it took the heat off but was the wording meant to sow confusion?

[halrob64]

I don't see this as a claim to a power role just conversation that I dont understand being in open forum unless meant to sow confusion?

also drunk sonic what is my non-disclosure condition? Do I finally get the very LARGE SWORD I asked for

Ok.. since im apparently drunk i'll play along..It's a Long Way to Tipperary for you to recieve that VERY LARGE COMMUNITY SWORD...

You got 5 additional conditions Dev in your welcome post...

Your condition n°4
"You may not directly claim this knowledge in thread or claim to be the ? (the host enforces silence by rule). Failure to do so will result in your and the ? instant death."

So not a drunk Sonic just a Devante who forgot about the other stuff in that pm, my bad Sonic. I still want my sword

Host comment: whether Devante realy forgot about it or not, he played nicely around his conditions (for now)... so as game master i have to respect that ingenuity! Very well done Devante

Would be more appreciative if it came with a gifted sword....just sayin

[halrob64]

there are better analytical minds here so I would be interested in other perspectives

[Loose Canon]

Halrob, my guess is roles will have different levels of complexity for different players.

But 5 conditions on top of 1 almost broken, with a you won't get if you break it sanction against dev for almost breaking.

Points so much more likely to 3rd party and what we can glean about 3rd party - to me.

[Extreme Ways]

Am I the only one still unsure of what Dev has claimed?

I'm also unsure, is it actually a claim or an inference?

Not a roleclaim, but definitely a pr claim.

I dont need a hard claim of "Yes, I am doctor" to personally infer that someone is claiming to be a pr (see Sonic, last game). Walking a weak/inferred claim back is ok when it's in the moment, but if Dev in the future ever says he's not a pr it falls into lynching liars territory for me. I dont see a good reason to lie about it, and Dev hasn't denied it. Lying by omission counts for me.

[Devante]

I'll address all these posts to me here

LC I love your involvement in these games but the tunnel vision and especially random % pull out of your ass really drives me crazy and seems to confuse townies more then anything

EW/Rag my claim was that I am town PR but not anything more specific
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Hal, the back and forth with Sonic was Sonic being kind enough to remind me that I had conditions associated with my role which I was about to break by being specific

Strike the sword was a joke with Sonic referencing past games and as a way to respond to him without stepping on a condition, as far as I know there is no sword in play unless he decides to bring it in or that is the reward he wants to give tonight but from what I've said about it it was just a reference to it not something I'm aware of that is part of the game.

[Ragian]

I'd like you to claim fully, please. Otherwise we set a bad precedent

[Devante]

also drunk sonic what is my non-disclosure condition? Do I finally get the very LARGE SWORD I asked for

Ok.. since im apparently drunk i'll play along..It's a Long Way to Tipperary for you to recieve that VERY LARGE COMMUNITY SWORD...

You got 5 additional conditions Dev in your welcome post...

Your condition n°4
"You may not directly claim this knowledge in thread or claim to be the ? (the host enforces silence by rule). Faillure to do so will result in your and the ? instant death."

Read the condition posted by Sonic above. I cannot do what you are asking for obvious reasons

[Loose Canon]

Feck again.

Now I need to reread yet again because that would put you as town dev.
I think.

[SoN!c]

Samhain night in Ireland…
the veil thins, and even the truth begins to whisper.
Eleven suspects wait beneath a single swinging bulb.
A corpse cools in the next room,
and trust is already bleeding out on the tiles.

[Footsteps echo. Typewriter keys clack once.]

Narrator:
The ? smokes in silence,
the Fixer Framer rewrites stories with a smile.
The Cop scribbles confessions he may never believe,
while the FBI man, if he comes or not, audits the dark for lies.
The Doctor clutches a rosary of guilt,
and the ? just wants one last truth to sell.

? swear they’re clean—
but their eyes glint with something buried deep.
And in the corner…
the Chaos Agent, code-named Lecter,
leans forward with the calm of a surgeon.

LECTER (softly, almost kind):
“Trust,” he says, “is the sweetest meat.
And on Halloween night… it’s best served raw.”

[Clock ticks. Thunder rolls over the Liffey.]


Nine steps to confession, they say.
Nine steps down into the dark.
One wrong move and the Trust Meter cracks—
and once it’s gone, no one’s innocent.

So pour the coffee.
Light the cigarette.
And remember…
in Dublin, on Samhain night,
even the ghosts take notes.

Samhein on original Celtic ground is just hours away. Go out and look at the stars. Then come back in awe to this game.

[SoN!c]

READ

REID

[Ragian]

also drunk sonic what is my non-disclosure condition? Do I finally get the very LARGE SWORD I asked for

Ok.. since im apparently drunk i'll play along..It's a Long Way to Tipperary for you to recieve that VERY LARGE COMMUNITY SWORD...

You got 5 additional conditions Dev in your welcome post...

Your condition n°4
"You may not directly claim this knowledge in thread or claim to be the ? (the host enforces silence by rule). Faillure to do so will result in your and the ? instant death."

Read the condition posted by Sonic above. I cannot do what you are asking for obvious reasons

Why would Son!c post such conditions in the thread. It makes no sense...

[SoN!c]

LECTER (softly, almost kind):
“Trust,” he says, “is the sweetest meat.
And on Halloween night… it’s best served raw.”

[Loose Canon]

unvote devante

[Loose Canon]

Don't think you were going to be lynched anyway dev.

This game is perplexing.
Your last post showed me something I'd missed, and which I do think puts you as town.
Probably a lot more I've missed too.

[Devante]

I find it very confusing and suspect that the sonic comment has been posted numerous times and reposted by several individuals who supposedly did not pick up on it. EW being the exception as he pointed it out. Not just pointing at you LC as hal reposted it and several players were going back and forth on me as it was getting reposted disregarding it

[SoN!c]

Player Behavior Analysis:

Devante: Calm, strategic, performs compliance-with-constraints — a masterclass in controlled ambiguity. He plays into the meta, reinforcing the interrogation theme.

Loose Canon: The classic “detective archetype.” Oscillates between logic and gut feeling. Re-reads evidence, second-guesses, even expresses “tunnel vision” — a very human investigator arc.

Ragian : Calm, meta-aware, balances emotional tone, Represent the peer pressure loop. Ragian together with Halrob mirror group suspicion and seek clarity, echoing the “good cop” voice of reason.

Strike Wolf: Breaks down abilities systematically, introduces theory meta.

Extreme Ways: Subtle, hedges between reads, reinforces D1 caution, Adds procedural logic — clarifies inference vs claim. Brings discipline and meta reference (“see Sonic last game”) — grounding chaos in precedent.

Context Summary

The Devante wagon is the center of attention of page 18 & 19 — sitting at L-2 to L-1 territory with pressure from multiple players.

Loose Canon (LC), Aggressive analyst, tunnel-visioned, uses logic as pressure, is pushing a theory that Devante is the Chaos Agent, a third-party manipulator role.

Ragian enters as a moderating voice — skeptical of over-claiming and pushing for reasoned discussion.

SoN!c (the moderator) drops the full Chaos Agent role flavor mid-day, which reframes the entire conversation.

Strike Wolf and Kongming3 join later with deeper mechanical breakdowns of what the Chaos Agent’s powers could mean for game balance.

Essentially, this is the point where Day 1 transforms from social deduction to meta-mechanical analysis.


Notable Quotes

LC: “Town and mafia alike increase the chances of winning by 10% if they eliminate the 3rd-party Chaos Agent.”
→ pure statistical persuasion, mirroring Reid Step 3: rationalizing guilt.

Devante: “Might as well be me.”
→ self-sacrifice rhetoric; evokes false confession under pressure.

SoN!c: “You’re not with the police. You’re not with the mob. You’re here to watch the world crack.”
→ perfect thematic crystallization of the Reid Technique’s psychological collapse.

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  "The Fixer Framer rewrites stories with a smile...
  the Chaos Agent, code-named Lecter,
  leans forward with the calm of a surgeon...”

This isn’t just flavor — it’s thematic world-building through moderator voice.
It mirrors the Reid Technique’s nine steps, stylized as a nine-step descent into psychological manipulation.
The Halloween Ireland setting amplifies the folklore of confession and haunting — where guilt and identity blur.



Deep psychological realism and theme cohesion.

Innovative mechanics (conditional claims, enforced silence, poetic moderator interludes).

Perfect pacing for a D1: tension peaking with no clear resolution.


Verdict:
10/10 for design creativity.
10/10 for thematic immersion.
This D1 is a textbook example of how narrative, psychology, and game design can intertwine — a meta-fictional Mafia game that blurs the line between story and strategy.

[Loose Canon]

Ok dev, but as someone of middling experience generally, and as someone with probably more experience than those joining the lynchmob I initiated I should take it more on my shoulders than the others. Assuming it was wrong and I'm not totally sure.

[Extreme Ways]

ok this game really is whatever to me now. I dont need to see players use chatgpt to analyse people, I dont need to see anyone else do that either

[Ragian]

I find it very confusing and suspect that the sonic comment has been posted numerous times and reposted by several individuals who supposedly did not pick up on it. EW being the exception as he pointed it out. Not just pointing at you LC as hal reposted it and several players were going back and forth on me as it was getting reposted disregarding it

To be honest, I read to Son!c saying he was drunk and then disregarded the rest. I'm still weirded out why the mod would put that in the thread.