jay_a2j wrote:Funny, I don't remember Powel saying that. I do remember Bush saying after 911 that Saddam posed a threat (AS did Kerry, Hillary and a ton other politicians) because Saddam could give WMD's to the terrorists and they in turn could bring them to the US and use them. And THAT is the reason I remember for going into Iraq.
Oh and it wasn't that Clinton "had sex" it was that he LIED under oath. The subject of the lie was not the issue.
And where was the evidence of this connection to Al Qaeda? Hm? I even went as far as to check Fox News to avoid your "liberal media" strawman. And if they didn't report that evidence then it must not exist.
And Clinton committed perjury, ooooooooooooh. Yeah, that's a war crime. And even then, what did the republican-led congress do? Censured him. That's it. If it was such a major blemish on the office why wasn't he stripped of it?
Bush has violated the U.S. Constitution's clauses on the seperation of powers, restricted congress from access to government survelliance programs, used signing statements to circumvent bills that he signed into law, and singlehandedly crippled the civil liberties of the American people.
And Clinton lied under oath.
Yeah, i see what you mean. Clinton was the worse president by comparison. You're right. I mean, you can't lie under oath. That's just abusing your power.
person who's name i can't be bothered to remember wrote:All in all the war in Iraq was a complete victory! If you think about what the U.S. is going to gain from Iraq it definetely outways what has lost from Iraq!
A complete victory? Are you fucking insane? Do you see the troops in Iraq being greeted as liberators or do you see them dying from bombs and bullets fired by insurgents who want them off their land? The US is going to gain sweet f*ck all from this little hornet's nest we've stirred up. Actually, that's wrong. We fed the hornets steroids and PCP, and then we stirred them up. Just look at this whole Israel-Hezbollah thing. That's due to destabilization. Who destabilized the region? We did. We created a massive power vacuum in Iraq, placed a foreign-figurehead government, and created a situation where firebrand islamic fundamentalists have a massive upswell of support for them. Why did we violently take Iraq while we talk terms with Iran? Mutually Assured Destruction that's why. Read your fucking history before you talk about victory and "the ends justify the means."
Also the Vice president didn't even mean to shoot his hunting partner retard!
Have you ever been hunting or gone to a shooting range? The ones with the guns stand in a line, shoulder-to-shoulder. The only way he could've accidentally shot someone standing next to him while he was pointing his gun downrange was if the guy jumped out in front of the gun as he fired. For him to have shot this guy (and have the spread of shot that he had) he would've have to have been at a distance and in front of Cheney. The only way he could've mistaken that bright orange vest for a quail was if he was stone drunk.
The point is, regardless of whether or not it was an accident, if some random schmo had accidentally shot someone in those same circumstances he would've been arrested and sent to prison. That's the law. I don't care if he's the Vice President or the Sultan of Shishkamakistan. If you are inebriated and you shoot somebody that's involuntary manslaughter. That's a felony. You go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect apologies from the guy you shot.
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