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jako · Post by **jako** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:03 pm

records dont say, it just has it down as the battle of chibi, where Cao Cao was tricked by a shu spy into chaining his entire fleet together which made it easier to burn the entire fleet.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:05 pm

jako wrote:records dont say, it just has it down as the battle of chibi, where Cao Cao was tricked by a shu spy into chaining his entire fleet together which made it easier to burn the entire fleet.

am i correct in saying in was pang de that was the spy?

Im also wanting to know where the han capital was and where hte gates are that dong zuo had to fight the alliance that yuan shu organised.

jako · Post by **jako** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:12 pm

gimil wrote:
jako wrote:records dont say, it just has it down as the battle of chibi, where Cao Cao was tricked by a shu spy into chaining his entire fleet together which made it easier to burn the entire fleet.

am i correct in saying in was pang de that was the spy?

Im also wanting to know where the han capital was and where hte gates are that dong zuo had to fight the alliance that yuan shu organised.

actually it was pang tong that was the spy from what i have read.

am i correct in assuming u are referring to when Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Jian joined forces with Yuan Shu against dong zhou?

the yuan shu coalition against dong zhou was in luo yang which is where the han capital was because dong zhou overtook the capital and replaced the original emperor with his own emperor at that time. based on ur map, luo yang would be in the si province.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:34 pm

It's too top - bottom. You can defend the entire north side from a single territory. It's fucked.

jako · Post by **jako** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:41 pm

unriggable wrote:It's too top - bottom. You can defend the entire north side from a single territory. It's fucked.

we know. its been pointed out by the map maker himself.

Arbustos · Post by **Arbustos** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:46 pm

jako wrote:
gimil wrote:
jako wrote:records dont say, it just has it down as the battle of chibi, where Cao Cao was tricked by a shu spy into chaining his entire fleet together which made it easier to burn the entire fleet.

am i correct in saying in was pang de that was the spy?

Im also wanting to know where the han capital was and where hte gates are that dong zuo had to fight the alliance that yuan shu organised.

actually it was pang tong that was the spy from what i have read.

am i correct in assuming u are referring to when Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Jian joined forces with Yuan Shu against dong zhou?

the yuan shu coalition against dong zhou was in luo yang which is where the han capital was because dong zhou overtook the capital and replaced the original emperor with his own emperor at that time. based on ur map, luo yang would be in the si province.

Liu Bei was actually just a subordinate under Gongsun Zan, with Yuan Shao leading them all.

Si Shui and Hu Lao Gates (although they are one and the same), are most likely in Wei Jing (by your map).

P.S. I personally really like the idea of a Battle of Red Wall map. :wink:

The Fuzzy Pengui · Post by **The Fuzzy Pengui** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:55 pm

Image posted on this page so people don't have to flip between pages.

gimil wrote:

I love the map! It's nice and simple, but yet elegant and unique. Too many maps have too much fluff, instead of being worried about gameplay itself. I can't wait to see how quickly this gets through the foundry

. Great job so far, and keep up the good work.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:01 pm

If you're up to it I'd like to see better mountains in the next draft. Also I'd like to suggest WidowMaker's bonus calculator to figure out the bonuses. If you aren't sure what that is let me know and I'll hunt it down for you.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:57 pm

Coleman wrote:If you're up to it I'd like to see better mountains in the next draft. Also I'd like to suggest WidowMaker's bonus calculator to figure out the bonuses. If you aren't sure what that is let me know and I'll hunt it down for you.

Im not bothering wih bonuses till hte gameplays settled

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:57 pm

unriggable wrote:It's too top - bottom. You can defend the entire north side from a single territory. It's fucked.

we if you bothered to read the full thread you would of noticed that ive addressed this issue and intent to repair that in hte next draft.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:16 pm

I don't know if I like Wei Jing being a one stop shop to defending the entire Wei area. Although at the point you'd be doing that you are probably winning anyway so it probably isn't a big deal.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:17 pm

Coleman wrote:I don't know if I like Wei Jing being a one stop shop to defending the entire Wei area. Although at the point you'd be doing that you are probably winning anyway so it probably isn't a big deal.

colman im going to say to you the same as i said to unriggable this WILL be addressed in the next update, and you would know this if you read the full thread

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:19 pm

Yeah, but I didn't like the way he put it, in fact I didn't even understand what he was saying, but now I see it is the same thing.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:21 pm

Coleman wrote:Yeah, but I didn't like the way he put it, in fact I didn't even understand what he was saying, but now I see it is the same thing.

lol no hard feeling then.

jako · Post by **jako** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:28 pm

Arbustos wrote:
jako wrote:
gimil wrote:
jako wrote:records dont say, it just has it down as the battle of chibi, where Cao Cao was tricked by a shu spy into chaining his entire fleet together which made it easier to burn the entire fleet.

am i correct in saying in was pang de that was the spy?

Im also wanting to know where the han capital was and where hte gates are that dong zuo had to fight the alliance that yuan shu organised.

actually it was pang tong that was the spy from what i have read.

am i correct in assuming u are referring to when Cao Cao, Liu Bei, and Sun Jian joined forces with Yuan Shu against dong zhou?

the yuan shu coalition against dong zhou was in luo yang which is where the han capital was because dong zhou overtook the capital and replaced the original emperor with his own emperor at that time. based on ur map, luo yang would be in the si province.

Liu Bei was actually just a subordinate under Gongsun Zan, with Yuan Shao leading them all.

Si Shui and Hu Lao Gates (although they are one and the same), are most likely in Wei Jing (by your map).

P.S. I personally really like the idea of a Battle of Red Wall map.

i didnt go into detail with that part, but yeah ur techinically right even though gongsun zan is so minor a character.

guess i estimated a little too far north. im not used to this map.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:37 am

jako · Post by **jako** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:21 pm

so what other things are u planning for this map?

i'l have to spend a little time looking at stuff for ur map, and i'l see what i can find but its hard tp be sure since there is so much inaccuracies of this era.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:34 pm

jako wrote:so what other things are u planning for this map?

i'l have to spend a little time looking at stuff for ur map, and i'l see what i can find but its hard tp be sure since there is so much inaccuracies of this era.

im not really sure. Id like to make the northeast continent have more boarders with a sea route, but im no really sure where to put one in as i would like to keep it accurate

jako · Post by **jako** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:31 pm

maybe u can incorporate the silk road, as there was a part of the road that originated from chang an to the south eastern wu regions.

EDIT: i just threw this idea out as it the silk road is pretty famous and had existed during that period. u could make it sort of like what qwert did with his tunnels on the iwo jima map but its up to u. i just thought it would provide a way to connect the south to the north if there was no sea route.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:48 pm

jako wrote:maybe u can incorporate the silk road, as there was a part of the road that originated from chang an to the south eastern wu regions.

EDIT: i just threw this idea out as it the silk road is pretty famous and had existed during that period. u could make it sort of like what qwert did with his tunnels on the iwo jima map but its up to u. i just thought it would provide a way to connect the south to the north if there was no sea route.

Where was hte silk road?

d.gishman · Post by **d.gishman** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:33 pm

you're missing taiwan and hainan on the map

jako · Post by **jako** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:01 am

d.gishman wrote:you're missing taiwan and hainan on the map

they werent a part of china or the three kingdoms during that era. the three kingdoms were based on mainland china. thats probably y they were left out.

the silk road was famous for connecting europe to asia, but there was a southern route.

gimil here is link to silk road at wiki, there is also a pic of it during first century so try to position it accordingly to ur map.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_road

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:19 am

Im not really sure about using this silk road idea. But ill give it some consideration

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:43 am

I miss the story Idea, you could probably use some stuff from that romance of the three kingdoms book series.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:46 am

reverend_kyle wrote:I miss the story Idea, you could probably use some stuff from that romance of the three kingdoms book series.

I thik thats where the quote comes from. The story idea wasnt really fitting in to well. It looked to messy

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