The Environment

[Iliad]

Duce we produce Co2. Co2 is a greenhosue gas. The more Co2 we produce the more global warming there would be. Don't hide behind cycles because this is was more stronger than a usual cycle.

No the earth is barely warming at all, some glaciers are growing and the number of natural disasters (in the US) has actually been shrinking since 1950.

Scientists have been unable to link CO2 with any sort of global warming and everything right now is just speculation about a natural cycle we can't even start to predict.

Also, on average global warming would help mankind, scientists have proven that. Longer growing seasons means more crops, and a shorter winter means a cheap heating bill. The overall detrimental effects global warming would (or possibly is) having doesn't amount to much.

Dude you realise global warming isn't just about the temperature. Maybe half a degree doesn't matter to you but to a lot of trees and animals it does. This is not natural it isn't good.

[Anarkistsdream]

Show me any reports that show ANY glaciers 'growing'...

Sorry Cawck, but you are just that.

[cawck mongler]

Show me any reports that show ANY glaciers 'growing'...

Sorry Cawck, but you are just that.

Look up Iceland, the glaciers there are growing. Also look up Antarctica, it would be harder to find but a lot of glaciers there are growing to.

To other guy: It won't make much difference, name one species that has gone extinct because of global warming. Hard huh? Maybe its because no one can prove global warming exists, so what you're saying is just speculation. Either post facts proving global warming exists and is going to kill us all or shut the f*ck up and run along to kindergarten.

[Anarkistsdream]

Show me any reports that show ANY glaciers 'growing'...

Sorry Cawck, but you are just that.

Look up Iceland, the glaciers there are growing. Also look up Antarctica, it would be harder to find but a lot of glaciers there are growing to.

To other guy: It won't make much difference, name one species that has gone extinct because of global warming. Hard huh? Maybe its because no one can prove global warming exists, so what you're saying is just speculation. Either post facts proving global warming exists and is going to kill us all or shut the f*ck up and run along to kindergarten.

No no no... YOU are the one spouting your shit... YOU look up the info and SHOW me... It is not up to me to blindly believe you or do the searching... If it is so obvious and apparent, show me... And it must be something within the last five years at most.

[cawck mongler]

Okay, reference time. Since the internet is run by ecofags who only post the sources that will support their arguments, I'll post what the actual scientists have to say. The first is a PDF, because its straight out of scientific journals and not hippy fagland wikipedia like you fags are used to quoting.

geog.tamu.edu/~liu/publications/argon_ant.pdf
West Antarctica ice increasing 26.8 gigatons per year, reversing past 6,000 year melting trend.

http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/ ... t/27/2/179
Less ice has melted now since the last interglacial.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1998/of98-031/iceland.htm
Iceland glaciers advancing.

[Anarkistsdream]

Okay, reference time. Since the internet is run by ecofags who only post the sources that will support their arguments, I'll post what the actual scientists have to say. The first is a PDF, because its straight out of scientific journals and not hippy fagland wikipedia like you fags are used to quoting.

geog.tamu.edu/~liu/publications/argon_ant.pdf
West Antarctica ice increasing 26.8 gigatons per year, reversing past 6,000 year melting trend.

http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/ ... t/27/2/179
Less ice has melted now since the last interglacial.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1998/of98-031/iceland.htm
Iceland glaciers advancing.

Sorry homey, I said within five years... Your info is invalid.

But I love you anyway, honeybuns...

[cawck mongler]

Okay, reference time. Since the internet is run by ecofags who only post the sources that will support their arguments, I'll post what the actual scientists have to say. The first is a PDF, because its straight out of scientific journals and not hippy fagland wikipedia like you fags are used to quoting.

geog.tamu.edu/~liu/publications/argon_ant.pdf
West Antarctica ice increasing 26.8 gigatons per year, reversing past 6,000 year melting trend.

http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/ ... t/27/2/179
Less ice has melted now since the last interglacial.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1998/of98-031/iceland.htm
Iceland glaciers advancing.

Sorry homey, I said within five years... Your info is invalid.

But I love you anyway, honeybuns...

There, I even found you a nice little graph. Simply closing your eyes and saying my references don't mean anything is stupid.

[unriggable]

Your graph is full of shit.

[cawck mongler]

Your graph is full of shit.

Yours is just for a longer time period, and they both point to the same thing: The earths temperature is fluctuating usually, even though CO2 levels have skyrocketed.

[muy_thaiguy]

I would just like to throw this out there,

The Earth has been warming and cooling since it's beginning, going through tremendously warm and cool periods (ice ages, and warmer times), also, many scientists were saying back in the 70s that another Ice Age was coming, now they are switching to the Earth is warming. The planet has warmed and cooled all on it's own and caused the greatest extinctions throughout history.

[Iliad]

Your graph is full of shit.

Yours is just for a longer time period, and they both point to the same thing: The earths temperature is fluctuating usually, even though CO2 levels have skyrocketed.

EXACTLY! Though it fluctuates this is way beyond any cycle!

[cawck mongler]

I would just like to throw this out there,

The Earth has been warming and cooling since it's beginning, going through tremendously warm and cool periods (ice ages, and warmer times), also, many scientists were saying back in the 70s that another Ice Age was coming, now they are switching to the Earth is warming. The planet has warmed and cooled all on it's own and caused the greatest extinctions throughout history.

Other then my own posts, this was probably the only one based on facts and not speculation. I mentioned that already though, but all the ecofags won't address it because they'd rather theorize that solar collectors are absorbing extra sun and heating blah blah blah. I swear, everyone arguing against me is 12.

[muy_thaiguy]

I would just like to throw this out there,

The Earth has been warming and cooling since it's beginning, going through tremendously warm and cool periods (ice ages, and warmer times), also, many scientists were saying back in the 70s that another Ice Age was coming, now they are switching to the Earth is warming. The planet has warmed and cooled all on it's own and caused the greatest extinctions throughout history.

Other then my own posts, this was probably the only one based on facts and not speculation. I mentioned that already though, but all the ecofags won't address it because they'd rather theorize that solar collectors are absorbing extra sun and heating blah blah blah. I swear, everyone arguing against me is 12.

Guess I missed it then.

[Iliad]

I would just like to throw this out there,

The Earth has been warming and cooling since it's beginning, going through tremendously warm and cool periods (ice ages, and warmer times), also, many scientists were saying back in the 70s that another Ice Age was coming, now they are switching to the Earth is warming. The planet has warmed and cooled all on it's own and caused the greatest extinctions throughout history.

Other then my own posts, this was probably the only one based on facts and not speculation. I mentioned that already though, but all the ecofags won't address it because they'd rather theorize that solar collectors are absorbing extra sun and heating blah blah blah. I swear, everyone arguing against me is 12.

Dude we have addressed it! Yes there are cycles but what's happening now is beyond any cycle! It's skyrocketing!

[cawck mongler]

I would just like to throw this out there,

The Earth has been warming and cooling since it's beginning, going through tremendously warm and cool periods (ice ages, and warmer times), also, many scientists were saying back in the 70s that another Ice Age was coming, now they are switching to the Earth is warming. The planet has warmed and cooled all on it's own and caused the greatest extinctions throughout history.

Other then my own posts, this was probably the only one based on facts and not speculation. I mentioned that already though, but all the ecofags won't address it because they'd rather theorize that solar collectors are absorbing extra sun and heating blah blah blah. I swear, everyone arguing against me is 12.

Dude we have addressed it! Yes there are cycles but what's happening now is beyond any cycle! It's skyrocketing!

CO2 levels are, the earths temperature is not. Therefore no global warming.

[Iliad]

I would just like to throw this out there,

The Earth has been warming and cooling since it's beginning, going through tremendously warm and cool periods (ice ages, and warmer times), also, many scientists were saying back in the 70s that another Ice Age was coming, now they are switching to the Earth is warming. The planet has warmed and cooled all on it's own and caused the greatest extinctions throughout history.

Other then my own posts, this was probably the only one based on facts and not speculation. I mentioned that already though, but all the ecofags won't address it because they'd rather theorize that solar collectors are absorbing extra sun and heating blah blah blah. I swear, everyone arguing against me is 12.

Dude we have addressed it! Yes there are cycles but what's happening now is beyond any cycle! It's skyrocketing!

CO2 levels are, the earths temperature is not. Therefore no global warming.

Yes there is!

2005 was the hottest year on record!

There have been more and longer heat waves.

[Neutrino]

CO2 levels are, the earths temperature is not. Therefore no global warming.

This is probably a superflous question, but I might as well try: Did you actually look at the graph Unriggable posted?

If you look really, really hard, you may notice that every CO2 spike is accompanied by a temperature spike. This suggests to me (and presumably to anyone else with the ability to read graphs) that when CO2 rises, the temperature rises.

Now, if CO2 is rising (as you stated in the text I quoted), then in all likelyhood the temperature is also rising.

Therefore, Global Warming exists.

It's amazing you couldn't work this out by yourself.

[Titanic]

CO2 levels are, the earths temperature is not. Therefore no global warming.

This is probably a superflous question, but I might as well try: Did you actually look at the graph Unriggable posted?

If you look really, really hard, you may notice that every CO2 spike is accompanied by a temperature spike. This suggests to me (and presumably to anyone else with the ability to read graphs) that when CO2 rises, the temperature rises.

Now, if CO2 is rising (as you stated in the text I quoted), then in all likelyhood the temperature is also rising.

Therefore, Global Warming exists.

It's amazing you couldn't work this out by yourself.

Yes, the graph is very good. Also, realise that the temperature increases a small amount of time after the CO2. We've only recently had the exponential increase in CO2 levels, so the shoot up in temperature will probably come in the mid to late century. Scientists have always said that.

Also, to animals and plants which have become extinct because of global warming, look at the Great Barrier Reef. Loads of p[arts of it have now bleached completely with little chance of life returning. You realise that a 0.5 degree increase in temperature hugely affects animals and marine life. A 2/3 degree increase would kill pretty much all of them. A WWF report said that 95% of the reef would be killed of by 2050.

[UnderSeage]

We have to get this damn environment under control. if we dont start killing more animals and spraying more pesticides we will not survive. Man is superior to all other forms of life thats why god made us last and we have to therefore kill everything else to keep us going.

(the tone here is to be read extremely sarcastically)

[unriggable]

BTW 2006 was the hottest year.

[Minister Masket]

For goodness sake Cawk, Global Warming IS happening. It doesn't matter whether it's caused by man or nature (though it's caused by nature and speeded up by man), it IS happening!

[cawck mongler]

To retards: I already said global warming happens dumbshits, and everything else posted since my last post is just theory.

Also you can't prove that global warming alone is causing the natural environment to go to shit, we simply don't know enough about how the ecosystem works and we don't know how many species there are on the earth so to simply say 'CORAL FUCKING REEFS ARE FUCKING DYING' means nothing, as we can't be sure whats causing it and we don't know if its even a bad thing.

SO FUKK ALL YOU FUKKING FAGGOTS WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE f*ck YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND CONTINUE TO SPEW YOUR SHIT, POST YOUR FUKKING HIPPY SOURCES IF YOU FUKKING HAVE 2 BUT STOP POSTING YOUR OWN RETARDED BELIEFS

[Iliad]

To retards: I already said global warming happens dumbshits, and everything else posted since my last post is just theory.

Also you can't prove that global warming alone is causing the natural environment to go to shit, we simply don't know enough about how the ecosystem works and we don't know how many species there are on the earth so to simply say 'CORAL FUCKING REEFS ARE FUCKING DYING' means nothing, as we can't be sure whats causing it and we don't know if its even a bad thing.

SO FUKK ALL YOU FUKKING FAGGOTS WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE f*ck YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND CONTINUE TO SPEW YOUR SHIT, POST YOUR FUKKING HIPPY SOURCES IF YOU FUKKING HAVE 2 BUT STOP POSTING YOUR OWN RETARDED BELIEFS

Really? BEcause I saw you post this little gem a while ago

CO2 levels are, the earths temperature is not. Therefore no global warming.

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[The Weird One]

For goodness sake Cawk, Global Warming IS happening. It doesn't matter whether it's caused by man or nature (though it's caused by nature and speeded up by man), it IS happening!

exactly

[cawck mongler]

To retards: I already said global warming happens dumbshits, and everything else posted since my last post is just theory.

Also you can't prove that global warming alone is causing the natural environment to go to shit, we simply don't know enough about how the ecosystem works and we don't know how many species there are on the earth so to simply say 'CORAL FUCKING REEFS ARE FUCKING DYING' means nothing, as we can't be sure whats causing it and we don't know if its even a bad thing.

SO FUKK ALL YOU FUKKING FAGGOTS WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE f*ck YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND CONTINUE TO SPEW YOUR SHIT, POST YOUR FUKKING HIPPY SOURCES IF YOU FUKKING HAVE 2 BUT STOP POSTING YOUR OWN RETARDED BELIEFS

Really? BEcause I saw you post this little gem a while ago

CO2 levels are, the earths temperature is not. Therefore no global warming.

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Durr I don't know what a hyperbole is because I'm a fag. Also I'm mildly illiterate and retarded.