The Era of The Three Kingdoms [Redundant - Scrap Heap]

jako · Post by **jako** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:17 pm

romance of the three kingdoms is a good story, but has many inaccuracies. so its hard to make it realistic as there isnt a lot of info to work with. i think ur better off making up parts of it for gameplay and keeping the map interesting.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:20 pm

jako wrote:romance of the three kingdoms is a good story, but has many inaccuracies. so its hard to make it realistic as there isnt a lot of info to work with. i think ur better off making up parts of it for gameplay and keeping the map interesting.

i may jsut add a port in wu that can attack any terr of wei's on the coast. am i correct in saing that wu took pride in there fleet?

jako · Post by **jako** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:31 pm

i have not come across any records that say wu even had a fleet, the only known fleet was teh powerful wei fleet. perhaps just making a port in a wei and wu tert and having that as ur sea route.

but i want to also shift some focus to shu as its being neglected by out talks of sea routes and the silk road. shu seems to be deadlocked in the west with mountains and is only able to attack from 1 point into wei adn having nearly all its terts exposed in the east.

u might have to look at adding some impassables for shu

ps have u come up with names for that tert in wei and wu that are missing names?

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:34 pm

jako wrote:i have not come across any records that say wu even had a fleet, the only known fleet was teh powerful wei fleet. perhaps just making a port in a wei and wu tert and having that as ur sea route.

but i want to also shift some focus to shu as its being neglected by out talks of sea routes and the silk road. shu seems to be deadlocked in the west with mountains and is only able to attack from 1 point into wei adn having nearly all its terts exposed in the east.

u might have to look at adding some impassables for shu

ps have u come up with names for that tert in wei and wu that are missing names?

I havent camu up with names yet. As or impassables ill ahve a look at a map and see what i can add

jako · Post by **jako** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:24 pm

okay, i'l let u think about it adn wait for an update.

sorry if i seem to be getting ahead of myself. i just love this era and this map.

GO SHU!!!!

ps2civxr20 · Post by **ps2civxr20** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:08 pm

I think you neeed more ways to attack wei from the south and less ways for wu and shu to attack eachother

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:06 pm

ps2civxr20 wrote:I think you neeed more ways to attack wei from the south and less ways for wu and shu to attack eachother

more attack routes and impasssables are on the way stay tuned

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:45 am

I'm still tuned, anything happening? :lol:

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:06 am

Coleman wrote:I'm still tuned, anything happening?

jsut working out the bonuses :lol:

but im not sure where i saved hte EXCEL file

jako · Post by **jako** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:36 am

gimil wrote:
Coleman wrote:I'm still tuned, anything happening?

jsut working out the bonuses

but im not sure where i saved hte EXCEL file

glad to see u still working on this. i was a little worry it would be abandoned.

looking forward to an update soon gimil.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:52 am

jako wrote:
gimil wrote:
Coleman wrote:I'm still tuned, anything happening?

jsut working out the bonuses

but im not sure where i saved hte EXCEL file

glad to see u still working on this. i was a little worry it would be abandoned.

looking forward to an update soon gimil.

im just a little busy, not as much time as i used to have you know.

I would of had hte update done by now but i lost hte spreadsheet with all hte bonuses done on it

jako · Post by **jako** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:49 am

gimil wrote:
jako wrote:
gimil wrote:
Coleman wrote:I'm still tuned, anything happening?

jsut working out the bonuses

but im not sure where i saved hte EXCEL file

glad to see u still working on this. i was a little worry it would be abandoned.

looking forward to an update soon gimil.

im just a little busy, not as much time as i used to have you know.

I would of had hte update done by now but i lost hte spreadsheet with all hte bonuses done on it

sorry to hear that. that must have set u back a few days with the limited amount of time u have. next time back it up :wink:

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:37 pm

Here you go guys the long awaited:

jako · Post by **jako** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:48 pm

lookign good gimil.

ur still missing a tert name for wei

not sure u will be able to fit the numbers in wu-tu and pa-hsi.

i think we need to add some stuff. this map is looking a little empty.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:08 pm

jako wrote:lookign good gimil.

ur still missing a tert name for wei

not sure u will be able to fit the numbers in wu-tu and pa-hsi.

i think we need to add some stuff. this map is looking a little empty.

any suggestions? i really dont want to clutter the map with pictures

KingPrime · Post by **KingPrime** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:14 pm

this map isn't that accurate, i play loads on games based on the three kingdoms era, but still, gimil, another great map, well done.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:44 pm

KingPrime wrote:this map isn't that accurate, i play loads on games based on the three kingdoms era, but still, gimil, another great map, well done.

there is many inaccuracies with the historie of this era. I have done best what i can with what is available to me while still making the map enjoyable.

erniefu · Post by **erniefu** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:21 am

The only suggestions that I would add are that many places important in Three Kingdoms history are missing on the map! Chibi, Guandu, Hu Lao gate, Jieting, Hefei are all battlefields we would like to enjoy in CC. The Yellow River is missing as well. While it does not play a major role as kingdom divider later in the Three Kingdoms story, it played a major role as barrier when Cao Cao faced against Yuan Shu in Guandu.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:08 am

erniefu wrote:The only suggestions that I would add are that many places important in Three Kingdoms history are missing on the map! Chibi, Guandu, Hu Lao gate, Jieting, Hefei are all battlefields we would like to enjoy in CC.

I think there will most liely be many name changes hrought this stay tuned.

erniefu wrote:The Yellow River is missing as well. While it does not play a major role as kingdom divider later in the Three Kingdoms story, it played a major role as barrier when Cao Cao faced against Yuan Shu in Guandu.

that was before the three kingdoms era and therefore makes it irelevent to the maps era.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:11 pm

You continent should be worth 2. Make one of the countries start neutral since it's easy to luck out and begin the game with both countries.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:21 pm

unriggable wrote:You continent should be worth 2. Make one of the countries start neutral since it's easy to luck out and begin the game with both countries.

and why exactly should it be worth 2?

d.gishman · Post by **d.gishman** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:48 pm

the territory above xu is not labelled

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:52 pm

gimil wrote:
unriggable wrote:You continent should be worth 2. Make one of the countries start neutral since it's easy to luck out and begin the game with both countries.

and why exactly should it be worth 2?

Yeah I don't get that either. 1 takes out most of the advantage of starting with it, it's a slight boost but it shouldn't be game changing. 2 would make the problem worse and nobody likes starting neutrals much.

I guess it could be game changing in 1v1, but if we tried to make everyone balance all their maps for 1v1 we'd need to revamp a lot.

Anyway, you're free from Map Ideas now.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:06 pm

thanks coleman, in with the big guys now :wink:

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:01 pm

gimil,,,just a comment on the borders....on the blues and dark red the borders have that white tinge on the outline.
but is does not show the same on the bright red and light green.
is there anything you can do to correct/amend that?

also on the north eastern border of chang-yang there is a border line that is visible between the two mountains...perhaps just another mountain in there to cover that border would be appropriate?