New Jedi Order Mafia MOZ & VONG WIN

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:54 pm

kwanton wrote:
kalishnikov wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
kwanton wrote:Well the only person I somewhat trust right now is wicked 2.0.
Why exactly?
That is a good question.
I forget who exactly was involved but the whole situation with AK 2.0. someone couldn't replace someone else because the replacer was a killed off jedi. AK 2.0 could replace and he turned out to be scum. Wicked is a killed off jedi so I'm using converse logic here. I could be terribly, terribly wrong tho so that's why I said "somewhat trust."

Oh thats right, I think it was firth (Luke) and Talapus (maybe?), something like that.

By that logic you should be correct.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:16 pm

ROLECLAIM ALERT

mandalorian2298 wrote:You are Viqi Shesh (Survivor)

You are a New Republic Senator, representing the world of Kuat. As the Yuzhaan Vong invasion sweeps the Galaxy, your mission is simple: survive, so that you can rise to power after the war has ended.

You win if you remain alive 'till the end of the game.

Confirm in the game thread.

So basically I'm a nobody. Earlier in the game, I'd say go ahead and lynch me to prove it. But now, seeing as we're getting late in the game, you can't really afford to lynch me simply because I'm submarining. And as a survivor, I was just trying to fly under the radar. In order to post more, I came up with that little theory on ga7, and drew a bunch of fire. Perhaps we should look back at the voting records of those currently on my case.

kwanton · Post by **kwanton** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:20 pm

Hrm....believable.

unvote

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:27 pm

Unvote

ga7 · Post by **ga7** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:30 pm

Well, your general behavior matches pretty well a survivor. I'll buy it.
Unvote

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 3:33 pm

Now I have no idea what to go off of.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:08 pm

unvote vote Selin because I can

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:23 pm

.. went back and looked at Selin's posts and my gut says scum. he's been lofting ideas, but not really pushing them, he's been taking a "let's wait and see" attitude which is common for scum, and lately he's been really pushing to get people to talk, which scum will do towards the end of the game to try to push a lynch when they don't want to talk. Also, scum would be trying to figure out exactly how everyone they didn't kill died to know what they're up against, hence Selin's questioning of Mandy about last night's deaths. So really nothing concrete, but a lot of little things that add up for me.

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:43 pm

i'd like to pose a thought to the group (and perhaps a stupid one). I'm sure everyone has noticed how each person that we push to claim lately ends up dead. do we really want to keep pushing people in this way? i'll feely admit that i have little experience this far into the game as i'm usually dead by now, so i'm unaware of late game strategery. Another thing, we seem to be losing jedi's (instead of townie 3rd party types) each night, is that voxyn beasty still running around killing them? or do we have a vig w/ a 0% succes rate in killing Vong, a sk and Vong? If there is a jedi vig out there, please for love of god take your hand off the light saber for a night unless you are waaayy sure. someone (GT i think) posted many days ago postulating 3 more Vong left based on book knowledge, if that's true then we are looking at the end times if we get today's lynch wrong. 11 alive - 1 (bad) lynch - 3 night kills = 7 players, 3 town, 1 sk, 3 vong. maybe i'm stating the obvious but we don't want to get this wrong.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:30 am

Unvote.

Ok, Serbia is the fall-back lynch then. If nothing else of merit presents itself, he'll still be here. Now we need to find scum.

Vote: Selin

I'm not sure if I buy that he's scum yet, but maybe, and I do somewhat agree with kwanton's logic about replacements so for the time being I'm gonna assume wicked is town.

Either way, maybe with a vote or 2 on him he'll show back up and have something to say. Do not hammer him until he talks, you bandwagoning fools.

Gimpy: my problem with your logic is how are we gonna find scum without pushing people to claim, or as I like to call it, voting? We've got few other means at our disposal then putting heat on someone and they end up claiming. But someone claiming town when pushed to a roleclaim then not dying that night usually says enough about who they really are.

gimpyThewonder · Post by **gimpyThewonder** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:58 am

no, i get that kalish. but it seems like a somewhat all or nothing ordeal. i want to avoid what happened yesterday. we forced a townie to roleclaim. and then fircoal hammered him. what's to stop that from happeing again? we are down to precious few players that aren't part of the dark side.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:40 am

Alright, it seems that Wicked is trustworthy once again.

The case on Selin seems legit to me.

Vote: Selin

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:54 am

VOTE: Selin

I FOS'd him yesterday for pretty much Wicked's reasoning, and took flak for it.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:42 am

Bump for all the lazy asses.... come on selin...

Talapus · Post by **Talapus** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:25 am

Alright, well it seems that Selin is the man of the hour. I definately see why we're leaning that way, but I'll hold my vote until we get a defense. I kinda agree with gimpy on this one, I don't really want to force a claim unless we really are out of options. It hasn't really worked in our favor yet this game. But, we'll see...

As for the replacement thing, well I'm not sure. Kwanton's logic behind the theory sounds reasonable, but I don't trust mandy enough to believe it(

). But, nothing against wicked at the moment, so no worries.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:44 am

Serbia wrote:VOTE: Selin

I FOS'd him yesterday for pretty much Wicked's reasoning, and took flak for it.

Who gave you flack yesterday for it Serbs?

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:22 pm

Talapus wrote: As for the replacement thing, well I'm not sure. Kwanton's logic behind the theory sounds reasonable, but I don't trust mandy enough to believe it( ). But, nothing against wicked at the moment, so no worries.

Thats exactly my thought on it. You never know with mandalorian but at the moment I see no reason to think wicked is scum and we've got no better leads.

No one hammer until Selin shows up with a defense unless you've got a damn good reason or he doesn't show for a day or so.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:27 pm

Is Selin at Lynch-1?

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:28 pm

VOTE COUNT

Selin (4) - Wicked 2.0, Kalish, Syzygy, Serbia

11 Alive 6 to Lynch

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:45 pm

Oops, counted wrong. I thought we had 5 on him.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:52 pm

Mandy's been known to count wrong too... perhaps we should double check?

Ank 2.0 where are ya?

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:01 pm

Sorry... Class and work...

I'll vote Selin.

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:33 pm

wicked wrote:Mandy's been known to count wrong too... perhaps we should double check?

Ank 2.0 where are ya?

He's actually right this time.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:37 pm

OK Selin, what ya have to say for your scummy self, eh?

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:51 pm

VOTE COUNT

Selin (5) - Wicked 2.0, Kalish, Syzygy, Serbia, Nark

11 Alive 6 to Lynch