new freestyle loophole

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

forgive me for the double post, but I thought this might deserve a new topic


round 1

player A moves
player B moves

round 2

player A doesnt move in 12 hours

player B moves
player A moves

round 3

player B moves


player B made 3 of the last 4 moves just because player A dint move within 12 hours. thats worse than a forced missed turn. we made the loophole worse than it was. unless im missing something here ?
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[firth4eva]

Yes. You are missing the point that nobody cares.

[chessplaya]

Yes. You are missing the point that nobody cares.

[Elwar]

How is that worse

[Iliad]

Yes. You are missing the point that nobody cares.

And no Johhny there isn't anything broken here

[orion_]

Yes. You are missing the point that nobody cares.

[wicked]

Yes we changed the fact that B will no longer be suprised and lose armies. Player A can still delay 23.9 hours and get a defacto double turn, but this way he doesn't screw B.

[autoload]

Yes we changed the fact that B will no longer be suprised and lose armies. Player A can still delay 23.9 hours and get a defacto double turn, but this way he doesn't screw B.

Will Player B get screwed if Player A delays 23.91 hours?

[gimil]

Yes we changed the fact that B will no longer be suprised and lose armies. Player A can still delay 23.9 hours and get a defacto double turn, but this way he doesn't screw B.

Will Player B get screwed if Player A delays 23.91 hours?

not anymore

[Telvannia]

Yes we changed the fact that B will no longer be suprised and lose armies. Player A can still delay 23.9 hours and get a defacto double turn, but this way he doesn't screw B.

Will Player B get screwed if Player A delays 23.91 hours?

not anymore

I hate to piss on your bonfires, player A would deadbeat if he delayed 23.91 hours 3 goes consecutively

[oVo]

Excluding a missed go, by the end of round 3 both players will have taken three turns.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

Yes we changed the fact that B will no longer be suprised and lose armies. Player A can still delay 23.9 hours and get a defacto double turn, but this way he doesn't screw B.

screw player B? he gets to make 3 turns to player A's 1 including back to back. that is huge.

[Genghis Khan CA]

forgive me for the double post, but I thought this might deserve a new topic


round 1

player A moves
player B moves

round 2

player A doesnt move in 12 hours

player B moves
player A moves

round 3

player B moves


player B made 3 of the last 4 moves just because player A dint move within 12 hours. thats worse than a forced missed turn. we made the loophole worse than it was. unless im missing something here ?

JR how is this any worse than:

"round 1

player A moves
player B moves

round 2

player A moves after 23.95 hours

player B misses a turn

round 3

player A moves"

Which is what happened under the old system.

Again, player A has made 3 out of the last 4 moves, but player B misses a turn completely. Under the new system no one is forced to miss a turn. In addition, under your scenario player A at least has the opportunity to play within 12 hours and get his turn in first in round 2.

So in summary yes you are missing something, the rules are much fairer now than they have been in the past, and freestyle is always going to throw up some oddities in terms of turn order. At least forced missed turns are no longer possible which is a change for the better.

[wicked]

Thank you Genghis. That's exactly what I was trying to say this morning, but had just woken up.

[MeDeFe]

And of course, if Johnny is worried he might always do something like this:

round 1

Johnny moves
player B moves

round 2

Johnny doesnt move in 12 hours

player B moves
Johnny doesn't move

round 3

Johnny moves and gets double armies
player B curses and tries to salvage what's left.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

forgive me for the double post, but I thought this might deserve a new topic


round 1

player A moves
player B moves

round 2

player A doesnt move in 12 hours

player B moves
player A moves

round 3

player B moves


player B made 3 of the last 4 moves just because player A dint move within 12 hours. thats worse than a forced missed turn. we made the loophole worse than it was. unless im missing something here ?

JR how is this any worse than:

"round 1

player A moves
player B moves

round 2

player A moves after 23.95 hours

player B misses a turn

round 3

player A moves"

Which is what happened under the old system.

Again, player A has made 3 out of the last 4 moves, but player B misses a turn completely. Under the new system no one is forced to miss a turn. In addition, under your scenario player A at least has the opportunity to play within 12 hours and get his turn in first in round 2.

So in summary yes you are missing something, the rules are much fairer now than they have been in the past, and freestyle is always going to throw up some oddities in terms of turn order. At least forced missed turns are no longer possible which is a change for the better.

understood- yeah I missed the 3 turns out of 4 in the old system

[Genghis Khan CA]

understood- yeah I missed the 3 turns out of 4 in the old system

Great, I like happy endings!

[oVo]

So another fix to the old 1v1 freestyle might have been,

round 2 - player A moves and player B doesn't

round 3 - player A can't take turn until player B goes
because he moved last in round 2

[MeDeFe]

And what if B "misses" his turn again?

[Scott-Land]

why doesnt player c get to play?

[Herakilla]

why doesnt player c get to play?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA when i read that i imagined a whiny little voice

the old tactic they are discussing only worked 1v1 unless all but one players in a game agreed to do it lol