Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years!!

[mrswdk]

In summary: Phats thinks Americans should have guns to defend against invasion and avoid being enslaved.

[mrswdk]

And zombie apocalypse.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

and

self defense from an intruder or a car-jacker or a nut flippin his wig on drugs seeing things chase them, or some pussy who is scared to get in a fight and is carrying a gun illegally.

[Phatscotty]

So, really the invaders then don't even need guns either, right?

Correct. So back to the original point, why do so many Americans feel the need to own guns?

Just one more thing. Can you understand why a slave might have felt the need to own a gun?

Yes, they were directly attacked by others with guns.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

So clearly this logic doesnt stand, there has to be a cultural reason.

The sarcastic clapping is a bit extreme when you've spent over an hour to get me to say something I already started with.

[degaston]

The 2nd Amendment exists because our founding fathers believed that the government should fear the people - not that people should fear the government.

If thats the case then every American should be armed with a nuclear bomb, or at the very least rocket launchers. Goverments dont care at all about the threat of guns anymore.

Makes sense Owen, I knew the history but not that the second amendment was to form a militia. Makes sense but quite clearly is no longer required.

There is no need to jump to extremes. If governments don't care, then I don't see what there is any fuss about.

And matching the force of government is not the only reason for owning a gun, so let's move out of 'carrying a nuke around with ya' to self defense from an intruder or a car-jacker or a nut flippin his wig on drugs seeing things chase them, or some pussy who is scared to get in a fight and is carrying a gun illegally.

Yeah, um.... nice try, but that guy was not a carjacker. What carjacker doesn't have his gun already drawn when he opens the car door?
At least he was lucky that the driver showed a little more restraint than this guy.

And if terrorists killed 31,000 Americans every year, would that be something to "fuss about"?

[Phatscotty]

So clearly this logic doesnt stand, there has to be a cultural reason.

The sarcastic clapping is a bit extreme when you've spent over an hour to get me to say something I already started with.

You started with 'people need guns to protect themselves from others with guns' and I ended it with 'yup, that is exactly the reason people feel the need to own a gun'

cheers

[mrswdk]

America must be great fun. Like living in Red Dead Redemption or something.

[owenshooter]

And if terrorists killed 31,000 Americans every year, would that be something to "fuss about"?

we invaded a country that had nothing to do with a terrorist attack that killed 2,997 people on american soil... we killed over 500,000 people over there in retribution. again, the country we killed half a million people in had nothing to do with the terrorist attack... i would hate to see what america would unleash if a terrorist attack killed 31,000 americans... that black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-i'm leaving dropping the nukes out... they only killed a little over 200K and it was to show russia we had the bomb... so that is ok... for those that claim it was over pearl harbor (idiots), that attack killed around 2,500... we don't just get even, we take it to beyond...

[KoolBak]

Ted Nugent's response to this:

Dear Gun Free Zone Wizards

Rev. Doug Giles

Last Friday night I was at my favorite cigar bar watching the news of the Umpqua Community College massacre. Like you, my buddies and I were pissed off, sad and sick to our stomachs. Three things, in particular ticking us off regarding this senseless slaughter.

They were ...

1. Another “Gun Free Zone” Epic Fail.
2. Christians Were Targeted.
3. Apparently Only One Dude Out Of A Couple Of Dozen Fought Back.

Here's my thoughts regarding the foul aforementioned.

GUN FREE ZONES.

I know this will be too difficult for your typical abecedarian leftist to grasp but ... If there had been a good guy with a gun on campus, who was trained, licensed and allowed to carry, he could have sent that murderous spawn of Satan to an early hell where he could slow roast for all eternity. Boom. Problem solved.

Unfortunately, there was no concealed weapon in the possession of a concerned citizen to stop this demonic dipstick because guns are disallowed on that campus. How cute. How PC of UCC. I bet Obama really loves you.

Oh, by the way, your “gun free zone” rule was obviously a bad idea. Like in: "a very bad idea." Like in: "Nine Christian kids were shot in the head", bad idea.

Did you get that, Umpqua? Nine dead. As in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine ... dead. All because you don't value self-defense, the Second Amendment or the lives of the kids whose parents pay your bills.

If I were one of the parents who had my child senselessly slaughtered on your campus, I'd sue your politically correct butt off. I think places like yours should no longer be left off the litigious hook. You're culpable because you could have prevented and yet … you didn't. You chose stupidity over common sense and you should pay ... heavily. I think a precedent should be set. Why not start with you, UCC?

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot. You did do all you could do. Silly me. You had one Barney Fife security cop with pepper spray and a plastic badge to protect 3000 students when a mass-murderer, with multiple weapons, strode onto your campus ready to kill. Speaking of your security guard, where the heck was he when the crap was hitting the fan? Do tell.

This is simple: Gun Free Zones are target rich environments. That's why I do not frequent them and I'd advise all those reading to do the same.
CHRISTIANS WERE TARGETED.

Dear Christian: Next time a killer asks you, “Are you a Christian?”, please kill that SOB for us all. If you're unable to put him down and you're around other Christians that he intends to slaughter, then have a pre-arranged pact that one of the brethren will grab the shooter and the other saints will beat and choke the Be-Jesus out of him. In Christian love, of course.

For those who think I'm being un-Christlike with that advice, I don't believe that Jesus would have passively allowed for such a slaughter without opening up a giant, Big Gulp sized can of holy whup ass on the perp. And if for some weird reason the real Jesus would be against my advice, then he's going to just have to forgive me because I don't believe in letting a murderous ass-monkey rule and ruin innocent kids' lives. Can I get a witness?!

Oh, and by the way, Obama didn't seem to make too big of a deal over Christians being picked out and slaughtered, did he? Can you imagine his response if it were Muslim kids that were targeted?

ONLY ONE HERO FOUGHT BACK.

What has happened to our culture that one, lone Army vet, namely, Chris Mitz, fought back heroically trying to save other students. Sure he got shot, but there is no telling how many lives he saved grappling with the gun- wielding goon. What has happened to our culture is we have been systematically pussified. And that needs to change, STAT.

Parents, pastors and mentors please … for the love of God ... teach your charges that there is this thing called “sacrifice” and that it is a virtue, especially when utilized in the saving of another precious life.

With that said, I think as long as schools and businesses are going to live with their heads up their backsides in “Gun Free Zones”, there should be “Mass-Murder Drills” mandated in all schools too daft to allow for concealed weapons.

I mean ... why not? In my day, we had them for fire and tornadoes. Mass-murderers are killing way more than fire and twisters are so ... why not have a plan for when a whiny dillweed disgraces your campus with ill-intent? One shooter cannot take on a classroom of thirty who won't put up with his crap.

I know the above is not pretty or pleasant, but when foul zombies can walk into a classroom and kill innocent college students, as far as I’m concerned, the gloves have officially come off. My advice to students, professors and school administrators is to forego the pep rallies for a while and, instead, have a “Stomp the Sh*t Out Of The Next Perp Prep Rally.” You’ve got to unite. Develop a strategy.

Lastly, I can't wait 'til the headlines read: “Killer walks into class to kill Christians and the Christians killed him instead.” Call me simple. Call me a redneck. Call me whatever the heck you wanna call me—but until we allow credible and licensed, proven and protective profs and students to carry a weapon on campus, we will see this murderous madness occur again and again and again.

Long live the right to keep and bear arms.
Disarmed & helpless is for spineless sheep! Shootback. No more repeat offenders, just dead offenders.

[mrswdk]

What has happened to our culture that one, lone Army vet, namely, Chris Mitz, fought back heroically trying to save other students. Sure he got shot, but there is no telling how many lives he saved grappling with the gun- wielding goon. What has happened to our culture is we have been systematically pussified. And that needs to change, STAT.

lol. I thought people stopped thinking like this when they hit puberty.

'If I was in a 9/11 plane, I'd have disarmed all the hijackers myself, stormed the cockpit and flown the plane to safety!'

[rockfist]

The 2nd Amendment exists because our founding fathers believed that the government should fear the people - not that people should fear the government.

If thats the case then every American should be armed with a nuclear bomb, or at the very least rocket launchers. Goverments dont care at all about the threat of guns anymore.

The government does fear guns otherwise they would not talk of banning them.

But, who are you going to get to collect them? Law enforcement? Nope. Military? Nope. Not until you make them deeply, deeply unpopular.

[notyou2]

Let the carnage continue.

Clearly the problem is not guns.











The problem is Americans.

[warmonger1981]

Amy good reasoning on Switzerland gun laws???

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol ... witzerland

[degaston]

Ted Nugent's response to this:

Dear Gun Free Zone Wizards...

I don't expect much from Ted Nugent, but would it kill you to do a little research before you spread his drivel?
‘It’s not a gun-free zone': Firearms were common on Umpqua Community College campus
Do you really want to have this guy as your spokesperson?

[mrswdk]

idgaf what the law says, I'm packing two guns all day, every day:

[mrswdk]

Ain't no one gonna harm me when I'm rolling with my buddies Des and Troy.

[mrswdk]

My guns go boom boom, your guns go pow pow

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

So clearly this logic doesnt stand, there has to be a cultural reason.

The sarcastic clapping is a bit extreme when you've spent over an hour to get me to say something I already started with.

You started with 'people need guns to protect themselves from others with guns' and I ended it with 'yup, that is exactly the reason people feel the need to own a gun'

cheers

Not quite.

We've established that people feel the need to own a goal because of the threat that slave descendants may decide to take retributive action, whilst there being no evidence that this would happen.

Basically, American gun owners are cowards.

[ConfederateSS]

------The original post...was about all the flag cry babies...where are they now...The killing continues...
------As for gun control... There are drug houses on every block through out the inner cities. That have the police out gunned. I find it funny. That an American would talk about gun control. We wiped out a race of people, who fought back with arrows. Only when the Native Americans bought guns with gold. They won battles. YES,the Indians had better guns then Custer at The Little Big Horn...Guess who won... Custer had a chance to take Gatling Guns with him. He said,"No. We wont need them, leave them."
------Americans have guns to fight off fellow Americans. We are not afraid of foreigners.
------I hate to see what sick stuff Americans will come up with. To kill each other. If guns are taken away. I see death tolls in the 1,000s. Not just a few dozen killed by guns. You thought Oklahoma City was bad. You ain't seen nothing yet...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[KoolBak]

Ted Nugent's response to this:

Dear Gun Free Zone Wizards...

I don't expect much from Ted Nugent, but would it kill you to do a little research before you spread his drivel?
‘It’s not a gun-free zone': Firearms were common on Umpqua Community College campus
Do you really want to have this guy as your spokesperson?

f*ck you

Don't give a squirt of piss WHAT you expect, nor did I extol, laud, decry as fiction or any such thang, the statement he made. Simply posted it.

Research wasn't required; didn't claim him as my spokesman. Way to f*ck up an assessment jackass.

He WAS awesome in concert, however, and is obviously a far more caring and better human being than you...

ps...from your own article (dumbass)... "Umpqua’s student handbook says firearms are prohibited on college property".

I don't expect much from you, but would it kill you to do a little research before you spread this drivel?.....later ;o)

[KoolBak]

Basically, American gun owners are cowards.

Says the Brit that got his ass kicked.... What a douche....

[mrswdk]

ps...from your own article (dumbass)... "Umpqua’s student handbook says firearms are prohibited on college property".

And apparently it was common knowledge that this policy was completely ignored, according to the title and body of the article.

Swish swish!

[warmonger1981]

Mrswdk don't plagiarize Big L ...


Verse 1: Big L]
Aiyyo, you betta flee hops, or get your head flown three blocks
L keep rappers' hearts pumping like Reeboks
And every year I gain clout and my name sprouts
Some brothers'd still be virgins if the crack never came out
I got the wild style, always been a foul child
My guns go BOOM BOOM, and yo' guns go pow-pow


Get your own lyrics..

[mrswdk]

The players gonna play play play, and the haters gonna hate hate hate.