Random League XII - A^ Wins! - Bariclaw - MVP - FINAL

[BIG_John]

what is a depends

Adult diapers for older people who can't make it to the bathroom.

[iAmCaffeine]

oh its a real thing lmao

u americans smh

[IcePack]

Round 12 this weekend, I’ll score again this weekend on challonge.

[IcePack]

I’ll score the event again this weekend

[IcePack]

Round 1-9 Results are entered. (score corrections to follow at end of event)

Currently:

REP = 13 (8 played)
FALL = 12 (7 p)
A^ = 12 (7 p)
LIONs = 9 (6 p)
LHDD = 8 (7 p)
AWOL = 8 (8 p)
ATL = 5 (5 p)
FOED = 5 (7 p)
GON = 4 (7 p)
AFOS = 4 (8 p)
LOW = 4 (7 p)
KNT = 0 (7 p)

[IcePack]

Updated again, (been a few little ones but went through them all again). Round 10 and 11 are still pending.

[mdhill]

As RL winds down (well-fought, all!), we have a suggestion for future Random Leagues.

The MVP threshold is currently set at half the maximum games (22 games this year). In our clan, we try to balance games pretty evenly among participating players (especially in Random League), and there are presumably other clans who assign similarly. As a result, we only had one member who had more than the minimum requirement of 22 games and only 7 that were at that minimum. This means, for example, that Bariclaw, who will have won an amazing 91% of his 21 games (one short of the minimum), doesn't qualify for the MVP. We had similarly few qualifiers last year for the same reason.

We would suggest that for future Random Leagues, the minimum to qualify for MVP be reduced or even eliminated (since, presumably, clans will not name an MVP that only played in 3 games or something). The rules are set for this year, and we'll select a non-Bari MVP (also very deserving!) accordingly, but we want to put the issue on the agenda for consideration for next year.

[IcePack]

As RL winds down (well-fought, all!), we have a suggestion for future Random Leagues.

The MVP threshold is currently set at half the maximum games (22 games this year). In our clan, we try to balance games pretty evenly among participating players (especially in Random League), and there are presumably other clans who assign similarly. As a result, we only had one member who had more than the minimum requirement of 22 games and only 7 that were at that minimum. This means, for example, that Bariclaw, who will have won an amazing 91% of his 21 games (one short of the minimum), doesn't qualify for the MVP. We had similarly few qualifiers last year for the same reason.

We would suggest that for future Random Leagues, the minimum to qualify for MVP be reduced or even eliminated (since, presumably, clans will not name an MVP that only played in 3 games or something). The rules are set for this year, and we'll select a non-Bari MVP (also very deserving!) accordingly, but we want to put the issue on the agenda for consideration for next year.

Yeah, I kept things (mostly) the same for this event. Definitely open to changes in the future. Thanks for the feedback

[elddir]

I would like to push for this to be changed this year.

Bariclaw's performance and results were amazing, and he was the MVP. Being short by 1 isn't his fault, it's on us as leaders.

Additionally, I personally think the minimum is ridiculous and needs to be lowered (by a lot) or removed. As I understand things, the winning clan picks the MVP from within the clan - there are no cases where the minimum is necessary or relevant. No clan would pick a player that played in like 3 games.

[IcePack]

I would like to push for this to be changed this year.

Bariclaw's performance and results were amazing, and he was the MVP. Being short by 1 isn't his fault, it's on us as leaders.

Additionally, I personally think the minimum is ridiculous and needs to be lowered (by a lot) or removed. As I understand things, the winning clan picks the MVP from within the clan - there are no cases where the minimum is necessary or relevant. No clan would pick a player that played in like 3 games.

I haven’t looked at their record (or others records) yet because it’s not completed. There used to be a formula that was widely used. If it’s literally off by one, I know things used to be given exceptions and I wouldn’t be opposed to looking into it once this completes

[elddir]

awesome. sounds like we can cross that bridge when we get there.

[IcePack]

awesome. sounds like we can cross that bridge when we get there.

I went through all the matches, looks like all can be called except for 3 matches. Waiting on results for:

R10 - FALL vs GON
R11 - LIONs vs AFOS
R11 - FOED vs FALL

Once we get those, we can finalize all the scores and go through MVP stuff.

EDIT: Looks like A^ is locked in as the winner so congratulations!
While some of the standings might adjust slightly, you've locked in your win!

Standings Currently:

1. A^ 20 Points - 0 Pending
2. REP 18 Points - 0 Pending
3. FALL 15 Points - 2 Pending (Max 19)
4. LHDD 13 Points - 0 Pending
5. LIONs 13 Points - 1 Pending (Max 15)
6. AWOL 12 Points - 0 Pending
7. ATL 12 Points - 0 Pending
8. FOED 7 Points - 1 Pending (Max 9)
9. AFOS 6 Points - 1 Pending (Max
10. GON 5 Points - 1 Pending (Max 7)
11. LOW 5 Points - 0 Pending
12. KNT 0 Points - 0 Pending

[IcePack]

I would like to push for this to be changed this year.

Bariclaw's performance and results were amazing, and he was the MVP. Being short by 1 isn't his fault, it's on us as leaders.

Additionally, I personally think the minimum is ridiculous and needs to be lowered (by a lot) or removed. As I understand things, the winning clan picks the MVP from within the clan - there are no cases where the minimum is necessary or relevant. No clan would pick a player that played in like 3 games.

I haven’t looked at their record (or others records) yet because it’s not completed. There used to be a formula that was widely used. If it’s literally off by one, I know things used to be given exceptions and I wouldn’t be opposed to looking into it once this completes

awesome. sounds like we can cross that bridge when we get there.

Keep in mind I haven't looked at anyone elses records, so i'm not sure if theres other strong candidates but just briefly looking at this based on historical stuff and the info I see at a glance:

A^ used 21 players this year
Average game count was 18+ games each player
Historically, 10 games would have been minimum requirement to just medal at all
22 Games was the minimum for MVP listed
Bariclaw did in fact play 21 games
He won 19/21 games (90+ %)
10/11 dubs
2/2 trips
7/8 quads

Generally I would definitely think he qualifies for a MVP (but again, I only really looked at him and the overall group I dont know what everyone else scored)

Example: if there was a 88% player who did qualify vs 90% who technically doesn't, its hard to take that away from the person who "should" have gotten it but if the next closest wasn't all that close, then I could definitely see the argument there.

I'll have a quick chat with assist TO Keefie and make sure we're on the same page. If you wanna let me know the next few %'s that might help (i assume you already have it, and i would have to come up with them all individually). From there, if we are in agreement, then I'll make sure the CD's dont have an issue and go from there.

[groovysmurf]

Bariclaw the "GOAT" - 21 games - 90.5%
Dufus Pooptypants - 22 games - 86.4%
Ferris Wheels - 22 games - 81.8%
Fyrdraca - 21 games - 81%
SaviorShot - 20 games - 80%
mookiemcgee - 22 games - 77.3%
elddir - 23 games - 73.9%

[TheSpaceCowboy]

Bariclaw the "GOAT" - 21 games - 90.5%
Dufus Pooptypants - 22 games - 86.4%
Ferris Wheels - 22 games - 81.8%
Fyrdraca - 21 games - 81%
SaviorShot - 20 games - 80%
mookiemcgee - 22 games - 77.3%
elddir - 23 games - 73.9%

These folks obviously need to move up a division.

Congrats to A^!! Well done!

It was a fun season!

[IcePack]

Final Standings:

1. A^ 20 Points
2. FALL 19 Points
3. REP 18 Points
4. LIONs 14 Points
5. LHDD 13 Points
6. AWOL 12 Points (AWOL > ATL head to head)
7. ATL 12 Points
8. FOED 7 Points (FOED > AFOS head to head)
9. AFOS 7 Points
10. GON 5 Points (head to head was a tie, but GON > LOW in Round Wins)
11. LOW 5 Points
12. KNT 0 Points

Note: Reminder the Challonge Rankings / Standings are incorrect as they dont incorporate the right scoring / tie breakers. It was just used to follow along and track results easier.

[IcePack]

The Tournament Organizers (IcePack & Keefie) have discussed the MVP request.

We've agreed & approved an exception of 1 game to be made, which allows for Bariclaw to be the Random League MVP!

Congrats to A^ and Bariclaw and a big thank you to everyone else who participated!

[IcePack]

We have a handful of active games before this can be moved to completed.

[Bariclaw]

I am so honored to be on this awards stage with such an incredible group of people. There are so many people to thank. I have to begin with my agents, who got me these games to play in. I also need to thank my mother, who turned 80 years old this last week. And to my wife and two daughters, please know that I have done all this for you!!!

I feel so fortunate to play with such an amazing group of Ascended people. I will start by mentioning my being a part of the glorious love duo Baridoc, who brought the entirety of Ascension to its knees and gobsmacked them by showing utter domination within the clan. I also must mention my special relationship as a part of Team Barfus. My dear friend Dufus, who first brought me to the Conquered Clubs, was my teammate in the majority of our random league games and a fantastic partner. He is the yin to my yang. He is my brother. He brings tremendous joy to my life. I envision a power thrupple one day (Barfdoc? Hillfusclaw? Duhillbarf?).

And...I wish for world peace.

[Keefie]

This is now finished. Thanks to everyone who competed

[groovysmurf]

Congratulations A^ and Bariclaw! Thanks to all who played and to IcePack and Keefie for running Random League XII.

Tournament closed, privs removed, achievements issued, topic moved.