Capitalism sucks

[Der Fuhrer]

You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

You obviously do not understand. Whatever do you think royalty was? Kings? Queens (not you personally, I mean real queens) and Emperors? Pharoahs? Read a book bitch, learn that all ordered, civilised society was started by those leaders, all perfect examples of fascism.[/b]

[Der Fuhrer]

You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

yeah they civilized it by getting rid of all the uncivilized subhumans obviously

However untrue, not a bad idea at all.

[Tyr]

You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

You obviously do not understand. Whatever do you think royalty was? Kings? Queens (not you personally, I mean real queens) and Emperors? Pharoahs? Read a book bitch, learn that all ordered, civilised society was started by those leaders, all perfect examples of fascism.[/b]

or perfect examples of a monarchy, absloutism

[Der Fuhrer]

That's the case with all forms of government you moron. One need only have an leader who cannot be swayed by corruption, and nary a soul would complain about fascism. Think about how we, as a species, came to be civilised. You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

At least with democracy a corrupt leader can be removed. Takes a coup with facism. As for civilization rising from fascism? The cultural identity of the West, as an example, was first established in Greece, a Republic. Even if that wasn't the case civilization could rise from any form of government. Dictatorship is just the simplest, and hence one of the first used, form.

Ah yes, democracy. Remove one corrupt leader, only to have him be removed with yet another. Cut the head off from the evil democracy, yet another takes its place. The phoenix of hell as it were.

I should like to add, Greece was under totalitarian rule before becoming a Republic. What if there had been no such rule? Would this Republic have come to be? What of Rome? Caesars ruled, before the Senate gained more power and lead the Empire?

[Der Fuhrer]

You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

You obviously do not understand. Whatever do you think royalty was? Kings? Queens (not you personally, I mean real queens) and Emperors? Pharoahs? Read a book bitch, learn that all ordered, civilised society was started by those leaders, all perfect examples of fascism.[/b]

or perfect examples of a monarchy, absloutism

Still fascism, thus my point remains. I am undeterred, as is my beloved fascist ideology.

[Tyr]

any anyway it seems to me that those leaders didnt so much start civilisation as inherit the right to rule and i think we can argue that with reak rulers the government tended towards and oliarchy or aristocracy. any a civilisation would be very well developed before the concept of a hereditary ruler evolved

[Tyr]

You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

You obviously do not understand. Whatever do you think royalty was? Kings? Queens (not you personally, I mean real queens) and Emperors? Pharoahs? Read a book bitch, learn that all ordered, civilised society was started by those leaders, all perfect examples of fascism.[/b]

or perfect examples of a monarchy, absloutism

Still fascism, thus my point remains. I am undeterred, as is my beloved fascist ideology.

you do realized that a monarchy and facism are different concepts of governemnt right?

[Der Fuhrer]

You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

You obviously do not understand. Whatever do you think royalty was? Kings? Queens (not you personally, I mean real queens) and Emperors? Pharoahs? Read a book bitch, learn that all ordered, civilised society was started by those leaders, all perfect examples of fascism.[/b]

or perfect examples of a monarchy, absloutism

Still fascism, thus my point remains. I am undeterred, as is my beloved fascist ideology.

you do realized that a monarchy and facism are different concepts of governemnt right?

Why yes, one is outdated, whilst the other is quite modern, and refreshing in the concept of statehood. There is very little difference between the two. Both systems merely had different masters who acted as tthe State.

[Tyr]

You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

You obviously do not understand. Whatever do you think royalty was? Kings? Queens (not you personally, I mean real queens) and Emperors? Pharoahs? Read a book bitch, learn that all ordered, civilised society was started by those leaders, all perfect examples of fascism.[/b]

or perfect examples of a monarchy, absloutism

Still fascism, thus my point remains. I am undeterred, as is my beloved fascist ideology.

you do realized that a monarchy and facism are different concepts of governemnt right?

Why yes, one is outdated, whilst the other is quite modern, and refreshing in the concept of statehood. There is very little difference between the two. Both systems merely had different masters who acted as tthe State.

facism would never work for any significant length of time in a modern country

[Frigidus]

You do understand that it was fascism that civilised the world yes?

You obviously do not understand. Whatever do you think royalty was? Kings? Queens (not you personally, I mean real queens) and Emperors? Pharoahs? Read a book bitch, learn that all ordered, civilised society was started by those leaders, all perfect examples of fascism.[/b]

or perfect examples of a monarchy, absloutism

Still fascism, thus my point remains. I am undeterred, as is my beloved fascist ideology.

you do realized that a monarchy and facism are different concepts of governemnt right?

Why yes, one is outdated, whilst the other is quite modern, and refreshing in the concept of statehood. There is very little difference between the two. Both systems merely had different masters who acted as tthe State.

facism would never work for any significant length of time in a modern country

Not a modern country for sure, modern countries have wide-ranging freedoms of speech. He hasn't quite gotten around to it yet, but I'm sure he'll explain why that's a bad thing.

[unriggable]

I can't believe I am agreeing with a guy with the username Der Fuhrer, but he is right. The people with huge amounts of money earned it one way or another, and what right do you have to leech of their success.

Because success shouldn't be measured in money. You're not leeching success, you're leeching their payroll, which is almost always not directly theirs to keep. It's the workers, yet they get paid shit wages.

[ChainsOfHell]

My dear friend unriggable, I am quite sure you are an educated wise man...

There is an Arab saying that says:

There are 4 fingers between truth and fiction

That means there is no "Kind of right" or "kind of wrong", you and I have professed our views regarding Capitalism and we have thrown in our evidence...

Now, what we do is not reply until the other side counters our argument with "evidence" and not "beliefs"

And now regarding Der Fuhrer:

Grow up... Learn not to use taboos when arguing/ debating...

[unriggable]

Now, what we do is not reply until the other side counters our argument with "evidence" and not "beliefs"

Evidence? Link please?

There is no such thing as evidence in something like this since it is policy, not a crime scene.

I just think that single mothers should be able to get welfare.

[comic boy]

I don't care if the tax percentage is low it should be 0% its the principle!

You dont have a clue what your taxes pay for do you

[ChainsOfHell]

They keep denying the fact that Capitalism doesnt exhaust 3rd world labor paying them 25 cents a day

... or Der Fuhrer keeps doing so anyway...

[unriggable]

And now regarding Der Fuhrer:

Grow up... Learn not to use taboos when arguing/ debating...

It's hard to argue with somebody knowing that if you compare them to hitler, you automatically lose, especially when the guy you're arguing with is hitler...

[ChainsOfHell]

And now regarding Der Fuhrer:

Grow up... Learn not to use taboos when arguing/ debating...

It's hard to argue with somebody knowing that if you compare them to hitler, you automatically lose, especially when the guy you're arguing with is hitler...

And yet again, Hitler was a genius... But Im not quite sure about our dear friend Der Fuhrer...

[unriggable]

Okay. Evidence. The new deal, possibly the most socialist set of bills signed within the US, stimulated the economy during the depression. In the few decades following the depression and world war 2, when the economy was at its highest, the upper 1% had about 13% of the nations wealth - in the years before the great depression, the late 1920's, they had 17%. The economy has slowly been draining since the 50's: now the upper 1% have 17.4% of the nation's wealth.

Conclusion: The more the rich are taxed, the better the economy. And it's no surprise: Money that would normally be stored in banks or safes is instead circulated through the poor.

[unriggable]

I love how the capitalists scatter like pigeons once I post some facts.

[Frigidus]

I love how the capitalists scatter like pigeons once I post some facts.

Well I think that everyone that isn't the rich want the rich to be more heavily taxed.

[Norse]

yar.

Socialism is wicked, cos it like takes muney of of like well rich poeople, who are like maeking like wars n r killing jews. When i grow up i wanna be an parking attendant to teak muney of of like poeple wiv cars cos dey are like richer than me. When i see like mercs and beemers parked on streets i liek keyin em, cos dey are fukking scumbags who like rob people n R racist and like wanna kill iraki's.

[ignotus]

yar.

Socialism is wicked, cos it like takes muney of of like well rich poeople, who are like maeking like wars n r killing jews. When i grow up i wanna be an parking attendant to teak muney of of like poeple wiv cars cos dey are like richer than me. When i see like mercs and beemers parked on streets i liek keyin em, cos dey are fukking scumbags who like rob people n R racist and like wanna kill iraki's.

At least you are honest, little norsey.

[got tonkaed]

yar.

Socialism is wicked, cos it like takes muney of of like well rich poeople, who are like maeking like wars n r killing jews. When i grow up i wanna be an parking attendant to teak muney of of like poeple wiv cars cos dey are like richer than me. When i see like mercs and beemers parked on streets i liek keyin em, cos dey are fukking scumbags who like rob people n R racist and like wanna kill iraki's.

i know, its really the keying the beemers that gets me my monthly reup for membership in the local socalist anti beemer club.

[Norse]

Dudes. I liek meant the word "wicked" in da slang way of like saying "good".

Once again, my works are ruined by autistic barstewards.

[got tonkaed]

Dudes. I liek meant the word "wicked" in da slang way of like saying "good".

Once again, my works are ruined by autistic barstewards.

it was clear in context, no worries there. I thought it was a pretty good representation all in all, you should think about trying for a spot as a scab writer over here in the states, i hear the writers guild is gonna be out for quite some time.

You could write for the V for Vendetta sequel "Socialistsz in Englands! -vives thar revolutios!"