CC is declining again!

[Gweeedo]

My point being: this game will never be taken seriously...being that it is a dice game.

As well, the dice are askew!
We have a dice game (that is fine) with non-random dice, lovely!

[Gweeedo]

I think it is. Something major needs to be implemented or revamped to recapture peoples attention.

I think you are right...

[Gweeedo]

Quote:
Do you love playing Spades which is all about cards. Do you love that game but hate the cards?

Let me ask you,
Do you love playing Spades which is all about cards. Do you love that game, playing with a stacked deck??

[JoshyBoy]

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On the front of the website it says we have over 600,000 players...

[Agent 86]

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On the front of the website it says we have over 600,000 players...

Shows everyone the integrity of the site, fuckin liars. Such a sad web page design, many designers cringe at how bad it is.

[trinicardinal]

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On the front of the website it says we have over 600,000 players...

Shows everyone the integrity of the site, fuckin liars

maybe they counted all the multi accounts with it?

[Gillipig]

People who think this is more than the temporarily, every year occuring, fucking seasonal rise in members are retarded. Gaming sites ALWAYS increase in active members during the darker months of the year. ALWAYS, what's new is that it took so long for the decline to stop this year. We were in November before members started increasing, that has never happened before! Previously we saw increasing activity in September and Oktober, we used to call it the summer lull, now it's "everything except November, December, January lull". In one year the same positive retards (or new positive retards) will say the same thing. Only difference is that instead of 12000, it will be 10000. America has a lot of idiots for sure. That's a confirmed stereotype.

[BigBallinStalin]

OUR MESSIAH HAS RETURNED!

[The Voice]

People...are retarded.

[OliverFA]

People...are retarded.

People are people.

[Gillipig]

People...are retarded.

People are people.

And you are definitely people.

[Dukasaur]

People who think this is more than the temporarily, every year occuring, fucking seasonal rise in members are retarded. Gaming sites ALWAYS increase in active members during the darker months of the year. ALWAYS, what's new is that it took so long for the decline to stop this year. We were in November before members started increasing, that has never happened before! Previously we saw increasing activity in September and Oktober, we used to call it the summer lull, now it's "everything except November, December, January lull". In one year the same positive retards (or new positive retards) will say the same thing. Only difference is that instead of 12000, it will be 10000. America has a lot of idiots for sure. That's a confirmed stereotype.

Actually, that isn't true.

Here's numbers extracted from evidence posted in this thread:
9/22/2011 16637
10/5/2011 16202
10/24/2013 16192
10/25/2013 16376 ccup bulk mail
11/7/2011 17458
11/10/2011 17423 ccup effect runs out
11/25/2011 17282
12/14/2011 16800
4/15/2012 15883
5/14/2012 15283
6/19/2012 14737
7/4/2012 14575
7/12/2012 14501 page 26
7/29/2012 15475 Trench introduced plus some SEO
8/31/2012 15131
9/17/2012 14641 page 33 gpig bet
10/1/2012 14365
11/1/2012 14721 El Jefe reign begins
11/30/2012 14885
12/22/2012 15045
1/19/2013 15787
3/5/2013 14908
4/28/2013 13687
5/10/2013 13506 second gpig bet
6/1/2013 13146
7/1/2013 12819
7/12/2013 12994 Havoc boards and new bulkmail
7/16/2013 13062
7/30/2013 13583
8/11/2013 13497 Havoc effect runs out
8/26/2013 12706
8/27/2013 12652 BigWham reign begins
9/7/2013 12284
9/15/2013 11998
11/2/2013 11271 page 72, lowest number ever
11/13/2013 11463
11/21/2013 11538
11/23/2013 11515 controversial new homepage
12/2/2013 11771
12/14/2013 11986

And here's some data from earlier, as provided by Ace Rimmer:
Subject: Is CC Declining?

Not from the mod forum, but the wayback machine:

4/11/08: 21,424
4/15/08: 21,443
4/30/08: 21,650
5/13/08: 22,894
5/23/08: 23,949
6/12/08: 23,661
6/19/08: 23,245
9/13/08: 23,533
9/20/08: 23,406
9/29/08: 22,642
10/10/08: 21,962
10/20/08: 21,684
11/1/08: 21,056
12/11/08: 19,848
12/17/08: 19,971
12/26/08: 20,256
1/7/09: 20,946
1/29/09: 22,130
2/10/09: 22,503
2/22/09: 22,811
3/7/09: 23,039
3/23/09: 22,726
3/23/10: 20,839
4/6/10: 20,570
4/17/10: 20,270
4/29/10: 20,128
5/12/10: 19,899
5/26/10: 19,730
6/8/10: 19,770
6/23/10: 19,707
7/6/10: 19,729
7/24/10: 19,506
8/8/10: 19,081
8/26/10: 19,050
9/14/10: 20,025
12/23/10: 21,130
7/8/11: 18,353
7/20/11: 18,180

As you can see from the above, there were modest winter increases in 2010 and 2011. In 2012, however, winter brought a small decline, and the winter of 2008 from 22,642 in late summer to 20,256 by Boxing Day of that year.

In total, we have solid evidence for four years, of which two show increases and two show decreases. For other years we don't have data at hand. Two ups and two downs does not add up to a reliable "winter peak" of any kind.

Incidentally, Gillipig lost the both his bet on 9/17/2012 that Conquer Club would not survive another year, and the bet he made on 5/10/2013 that it would be below 10K members within six months.

[Foxglove]

Very interesting!!!

Thank you for pulling all of that data together, dukasaur.

Clearly numbers and data are far more reliable indicators of activity than memory and opinion.

[Gweeedo]

Not sure why any of this is relevant.

Is CC going to stop performing if it shows an increase in members.
Are they going to raise the yearly subscription if it shows a decline.

Keep up the good work (do more with bots).
I think most of us are still having fun...

[friendly1]

People who think this is more than the temporarily, every year occuring, fucking seasonal rise in members are retarded. Gaming sites ALWAYS increase in active members during the darker months of the year. ALWAYS, what's new is that it took so long for the decline to stop this year. We were in November before members started increasing, that has never happened before! Previously we saw increasing activity in September and Oktober, we used to call it the summer lull, now it's "everything except November, December, January lull". In one year the same positive retards (or new positive retards) will say the same thing. Only difference is that instead of 12000, it will be 10000. America has a lot of idiots for sure. That's a confirmed stereotype.

Actually, that isn't true.

Here's numbers extracted from evidence posted in this thread:
9/22/2011 16637
10/5/2011 16202
10/24/2013 16192
10/25/2013 16376 ccup bulk mail
11/7/2011 17458
11/10/2011 17423 ccup effect runs out
11/25/2011 17282
12/14/2011 16800
4/15/2012 15883
5/14/2012 15283
6/19/2012 14737
7/4/2012 14575
7/12/2012 14501 page 26
7/29/2012 15475 Trench introduced plus some SEO
8/31/2012 15131
9/17/2012 14641 page 33 gpig bet
10/1/2012 14365
11/1/2012 14721 El Jefe reign begins
11/30/2012 14885
12/22/2012 15045
1/19/2013 15787
3/5/2013 14908
4/28/2013 13687
5/10/2013 13506 second gpig bet
6/1/2013 13146
7/1/2013 12819
7/12/2013 12994 Havoc boards and new bulkmail
7/16/2013 13062
7/30/2013 13583
8/11/2013 13497 Havoc effect runs out
8/26/2013 12706
8/27/2013 12652 BigWham reign begins
9/7/2013 12284
9/15/2013 11998
11/2/2013 11271 page 72, lowest number ever
11/13/2013 11463
11/21/2013 11538
11/23/2013 11515 controversial new homepage
12/2/2013 11771
12/14/2013 11986

And here's some data from earlier, as provided by Ace Rimmer:
Subject: Is CC Declining?

Not from the mod forum, but the wayback machine:

4/11/08: 21,424
4/15/08: 21,443
4/30/08: 21,650
5/13/08: 22,894
5/23/08: 23,949
6/12/08: 23,661
6/19/08: 23,245
9/13/08: 23,533
9/20/08: 23,406
9/29/08: 22,642
10/10/08: 21,962
10/20/08: 21,684
11/1/08: 21,056
12/11/08: 19,848
12/17/08: 19,971
12/26/08: 20,256
1/7/09: 20,946
1/29/09: 22,130
2/10/09: 22,503
2/22/09: 22,811
3/7/09: 23,039
3/23/09: 22,726
3/23/10: 20,839
4/6/10: 20,570
4/17/10: 20,270
4/29/10: 20,128
5/12/10: 19,899
5/26/10: 19,730
6/8/10: 19,770
6/23/10: 19,707
7/6/10: 19,729
7/24/10: 19,506
8/8/10: 19,081
8/26/10: 19,050
9/14/10: 20,025
12/23/10: 21,130
7/8/11: 18,353
7/20/11: 18,180

As you can see from the above, there were modest winter increases in 2010 and 2011. In 2012, however, winter brought a small decline, and the winter of 2008 from 22,642 in late summer to 20,256 by Boxing Day of that year.

In total, we have solid evidence for four years, of which two show increases and two show decreases. For other years we don't have data at hand. Two ups and two downs does not add up to a reliable "winter peak" of any kind.

Incidentally, Gillipig lost the both his bet on 9/17/2012 that Conquer Club would not survive another year, and the bet he made on 5/10/2013 that it would be below 10K members within six months.

Now that is solid work!

I'd love to know what the retention and return rates are for users here. I wonder if it's even tracked.

[Pirlo]

Been away for months and kinda got overwhelmed by the load of updates you got when I checked out.

I've been hearing a lot of how great the new owner is. If you ask me, I'm afraid there are too much updates within a short period. I'd make the intervals between updates a bit longer for strategical business reasons!

[OliverFA]

Very interesting!!!

Thank you for pulling all of that data together, dukasaur.

Clearly numbers and data are far more reliable indicators of activity than memory and opinion.

That's why I love objective data

[Metsfanmax]

I'd love to know what the retention and return rates are for users here. I wonder if it's even tracked.

It is tracked, of course. Only blake and bigWham would know the actual numbers, though. Contact them if you want them to publish it.

[keyborn]

12000...

[OliverFA]

12000...

[nietzsche]

People who think this is more than the temporarily, every year occuring, fucking seasonal rise in members are retarded. Gaming sites ALWAYS increase in active members during the darker months of the year. ALWAYS, what's new is that it took so long for the decline to stop this year. We were in November before members started increasing, that has never happened before! Previously we saw increasing activity in September and Oktober, we used to call it the summer lull, now it's "everything except November, December, January lull". In one year the same positive retards (or new positive retards) will say the same thing. Only difference is that instead of 12000, it will be 10000. America has a lot of idiots for sure. That's a confirmed stereotype.

Actually, that isn't true.

Here's numbers extracted from evidence posted in this thread:
9/22/2011 16637
10/5/2011 16202
10/24/2013 16192
10/25/2013 16376 ccup bulk mail
11/7/2011 17458
11/10/2011 17423 ccup effect runs out
11/25/2011 17282
12/14/2011 16800
4/15/2012 15883
5/14/2012 15283
6/19/2012 14737
7/4/2012 14575
7/12/2012 14501 page 26
7/29/2012 15475 Trench introduced plus some SEO
8/31/2012 15131
9/17/2012 14641 page 33 gpig bet
10/1/2012 14365
11/1/2012 14721 El Jefe reign begins
11/30/2012 14885
12/22/2012 15045
1/19/2013 15787
3/5/2013 14908
4/28/2013 13687
5/10/2013 13506 second gpig bet
6/1/2013 13146
7/1/2013 12819
7/12/2013 12994 Havoc boards and new bulkmail
7/16/2013 13062
7/30/2013 13583
8/11/2013 13497 Havoc effect runs out
8/26/2013 12706
8/27/2013 12652 BigWham reign begins
9/7/2013 12284
9/15/2013 11998
11/2/2013 11271 page 72, lowest number ever
11/13/2013 11463
11/21/2013 11538
11/23/2013 11515 controversial new homepage
12/2/2013 11771
12/14/2013 11986

And here's some data from earlier, as provided by Ace Rimmer:
Subject: Is CC Declining?

Not from the mod forum, but the wayback machine:

4/11/08: 21,424
4/15/08: 21,443
4/30/08: 21,650
5/13/08: 22,894
5/23/08: 23,949
6/12/08: 23,661
6/19/08: 23,245
9/13/08: 23,533
9/20/08: 23,406
9/29/08: 22,642
10/10/08: 21,962
10/20/08: 21,684
11/1/08: 21,056
12/11/08: 19,848
12/17/08: 19,971
12/26/08: 20,256
1/7/09: 20,946
1/29/09: 22,130
2/10/09: 22,503
2/22/09: 22,811
3/7/09: 23,039
3/23/09: 22,726
3/23/10: 20,839
4/6/10: 20,570
4/17/10: 20,270
4/29/10: 20,128
5/12/10: 19,899
5/26/10: 19,730
6/8/10: 19,770
6/23/10: 19,707
7/6/10: 19,729
7/24/10: 19,506
8/8/10: 19,081
8/26/10: 19,050
9/14/10: 20,025
12/23/10: 21,130
7/8/11: 18,353
7/20/11: 18,180

As you can see from the above, there were modest winter increases in 2010 and 2011. In 2012, however, winter brought a small decline, and the winter of 2008 from 22,642 in late summer to 20,256 by Boxing Day of that year.

In total, we have solid evidence for four years, of which two show increases and two show decreases. For other years we don't have data at hand. Two ups and two downs does not add up to a reliable "winter peak" of any kind.

Incidentally, Gillipig lost the both his bet on 9/17/2012 that Conquer Club would not survive another year, and the bet he made on 5/10/2013 that it would be below 10K members within six months.

If you look closely, there are 4 increases in those winters, you are just taking the dates to use wrong, for I don't know what reason.

I see 4 increases in winters, although much lower than I expected. The numbers that I always paid attention were Online Members and that numbers was always considerably up on winters.

[Dukasaur]

If you look closely, there are 4 increases in those winters, you are just taking the dates to use wrong, for I don't know what reason.

I went from wherever the summer decline stopped (usually August or September) to the last reading of the year. Yeah, you can get different results if you adjust the timescale, and if you get really technical and only use dates within astronomical winter of December 21 to March 22 I can see how you get 4 increases. But you have damn few data points to work with in that time frame. Also, the people who have been screaming that the increases of the last six weeks are "only the normal winter upswing" are definitely not using those dates, since we haven't reached December 21st this year.

[Agent 86]

Well all I can say is that Noddy keeps inflating the members..Gets banned and makes more artificial members

[TeeGee]

Well all I can say is that Noddy keeps inflating the members..Gets banned and makes more artificial members

Only the nodtwit multies that play artificially inflate the scoreboard, but the ones he had created over 30 days ago would have dropped off, so it all balances out.

[D4 Damager]

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